Prospect Info: The all-encompassing Sam Morin thread [began in 2017]

[Magua]

About two years ago MDZ got hurt, MacDonald got called up, and Medvedev got demoted to #7.

NHL.com - Stats

Injuries......solve......everything! Trust the injuries.

 

[deadhead]

I’ve never seen a GM more eagerly wish for injuries upon his own players than Hextall. Every interview he drops the injury line with his fingers crossed. Because it’s often the only way he can actually make forceful decisions about young players. Hell, we probably won’t see Sanheim back up unless someone gets injured.

I think he sees injuries as opportunities for young players to have low pressure cameos, since the expectation is "don't screw up" rather than "you're our only hope, Obi wan."
It's not that he hopes for them, but when they happen, he can stick a kid in without having to make a commitment and bench someone else.

 

[lakai17]

Morin on a conditioning stint with the Phantoms.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Morin on a conditioning stint with the Phantoms.

Can't wait till he's up. Myers should stay up as well. Send down AMac and trade Hagg.

 

[Flyerfan13]

Sam Morin Loaned to Lehigh Valley for Conditioning - Lehigh Valley Phantoms

 

[Rebels57]

Can't wait till he's up. Myers should stay up as well. Send down AMac and trade Hagg.

Neither are going to play for the Flyers, so don't hold your breath.

 

[Curufinwe]

Neither are going to play for the Flyers, so don't hold your breath.

I kind of feel like you aren't as happy as you said you would be if Hak got fired.

 

[Rebels57]

I kind of feel like you aren't as happy as you said you would be if Hak got fired.

This is my reverse-jynx method. Whenever I really want something, I just go on and on about how it won't happen and then it does happen. You'll see.

 

[lancer247]

Doesn’t sound like Morin expects to play much. Made it clear he is comfortable with his knee yet.

 

[Chinatown88]

This is my reverse-jynx method. Whenever I really want something, I just go on and on about how it won't happen and then it does happen. You'll see.

Can you jinx the draft lottery too?

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

A title change was done to give the thread a fresher appearance. The official roster move is below:

TheAHL.com

2019-02-14

Samuel Morin (D)

Lehigh Valley

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Conditioning loan from Philadelphia (NHL)

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Sam Morin Loaned to Lehigh Valley for Conditioning - Lehigh Valley Phantoms

Lehigh Valley, Pa. – The Philadelphia Flyers have announced today that they have loaned defenseman Samuel Morin to their American Hockey League affiliate, the Lehigh Valley Phantoms for conditioning purposes.

Morin, 23, has yet to appear in a game this season after undergoing knee surgery last May. Morin has spent the last three seasons with the Phantoms, playing 165 games and totaling eight goals and 34 assists for 42 points. He was the only player to appear in all 76 games for Lehigh Valley during the 2015-16 season. Morin has accumulated 273 penalty minutes, which is the second most by a player in Lehigh Valley Phantoms history, just three behind Tyrell Goulbourne who passed Morin earlier this month. He led the team in PIMs during the 2015-16 and 2016-17 seasons.

 

[kudymen]

Morin has accumulated 273 penalty minutes, which is the second most by a player in Lehigh Valley Phantoms history, just three behind Tyrell Goulbourne who passed Morin earlier this month. He led the team in PIMs during the 2015-16 and 2016-17 seasons.

I had no idea about this. Aggressive, heh

 

[prototypical4thliner]

A title change was done to give the thread a fresher appearance. The official roster move is below:

TheAHL.com

2019-02-14

Samuel Morin (D)

Lehigh Valley

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Conditioning loan from Philadelphia (NHL)

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Sam Morin Loaned to Lehigh Valley for Conditioning - Lehigh Valley Phantoms

Lehigh Valley, Pa. – The Philadelphia Flyers have announced today that they have loaned defenseman Samuel Morin to their American Hockey League affiliate, the Lehigh Valley Phantoms for conditioning purposes.

Morin, 23, has yet to appear in a game this season after undergoing knee surgery last May. Morin has spent the last three seasons with the Phantoms, playing 165 games and totaling eight goals and 34 assists for 42 points. He was the only player to appear in all 76 games for Lehigh Valley during the 2015-16 season. Morin has accumulated 273 penalty minutes, which is the second most by a player in Lehigh Valley Phantoms history, just three behind Tyrell Goulbourne who passed Morin earlier this month. He led the team in PIMs during the 2015-16 and 2016-17 seasons.

It’s a different dimension this blue line is lacking since pronger. He will never be at the level of effectiveness, but the intimidation in the crease is something that will be nice. Let’s face it, our d can probably negate people in the crease, but they won’t make opposing players think twice about going right back into hart’s grill: I think Sam will.

 

[deadhead]

Hagg is the only one currently strong enough to move people in the crease, Gudas is tough, but he's actually not that big, listed at 6'0 204 and Provorov 6'1 201 (though I suspect he's a bit thicker than that). Since you're standing still, size and strength matter in wrestling with guys in front of the net. Which is why I want Sanheim to hit the weight room.

Adding Myers and Morin change that equation, these guys are HUGE, once they learn how to handle NHL players (leverage matters along with strength, and learning how to "cheat" without getting caught) they'll be moving players out on a regular basis.

 

[David St Hubbins]

It’s a different dimension this blue line is lacking since pronger. He will never be at the level of effectiveness, but the intimidation in the crease is something that will be nice. Let’s face it, our d can probably negate people in the crease, but they won’t make opposing players think twice about going right back into hart’s grill: I think Sam will.

Morin is a big, strong, and generally unpleasant individual (to the opposition). He can thrown them, and has rag dolled more than a couple individuals. I still think his floor is Hagg's current level, and while he may have some growing pains, especially after not playing for about a year, he should be in the Flyers lineup as soon as he is in game shape. He needs the minutes and should be a staple on the PK and 2nd/3rd pairing next season.

Similarly for Myers, he needs time on the ice because he should be a starting RD next year. I would like to see him with Provorov on the 2nd PK pairing, while Sam and Gudas take 1st PK duty. Pairing up for ES:
Prov-Ghost
Sanheim-Gudas
Morin-Myers
Hagg

And this should be liberally exercised over the rest of this season.

 

[Starat327]

Cant wait to have some heavy back in the roster.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

They simply need the time. And not ahl time anymore. I forget which team employed a set rotation schedule, but a bottom pairing rotation of Myers morin Hagg and Macdonald needs to happen at the very least. Otherwise we are stuck with our mystery boxes in hockey purgatory.

 

[David St Hubbins]

They simply need the time. And not ahl time anymore. I forget which team employed a set rotation schedule, but a bottom pairing rotation of Myers morin Hagg and Macdonald needs to happen at the very least. Otherwise we are stuck with our mystery boxes in hockey purgatory.

Remove Macdonald and you have me. The fact that Hagg can play either side with equal - ummmm, skill? - makes a rotation very feasible. Everyone gets 2 on, 1 off (with time to review and learn in the pressbox, which is apparently critical), with Hagg swaping between LD/RD on his "on" nights.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

Remove Macdonald and you have me. The fact that Hagg can play either side with equal - ummmm, skill? - makes a rotation very feasible. Everyone gets 2 on, 1 off (with time to review and learn in the pressbox, which is apparently critical), with Hagg swaping between LD/RD on his "on" nights.

I was just going on what I suspected was a realistic option. I don’t see a world in which Macdonald gets removed from the playing rotation unless fletcher finds a trade partner with a decimated blue line. Possible but not totally likely.

 

[Tripod]

"Hagg is the only one currently strong enough to move people in the crease"

Meanwhile, he just stands by idle not moving guys and instead tries to just block shots.

 

[Oskar Man]

"Hagg is the only one currently strong enough to move people in the crease"

Meanwhile, he just stands by idle not moving guys and instead tries to just block shots.

I saw him pin a guy to the boards once. That was cool

 

[baudib1]

Hagg is the only one currently strong enough to move people in the crease, Gudas is tough, but he's actually not that big, listed at 6'0 204 and Provorov 6'1 201 (though I suspect he's a bit thicker than that). Since you're standing still, size and strength matter in wrestling with guys in front of the net. Which is why I want Sanheim to hit the weight room.

Adding Myers and Morin change that equation, these guys are HUGE, once they learn how to handle NHL players (leverage matters along with strength, and learning how to "cheat" without getting caught) they'll be moving players out on a regular basis.

I can just imagine how many posts about strength we'll see if we get Spurgeon.

 

[Beef Invictus]

What is the point of being strong enough to move guys from the crease if you never move guys from the crease?

 

[tictactoe]

In all fairness who is moving anyone in front of the net for the flyers or phantoms? That old fashion cross check right into your hip and/or back.. not hard enough to knock you down but good enough to inflict pain and throw you off your game . Does anyone do it?Nope.

I actually do not remember a single cross checking penalty in last 3 year that occurred in front of our net....

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Not sure how anyone can expect Morin to step into the Flyers lineup off of a knee reconstruction & basically a missed year & be an upgrade over anything. Seems like incredibly wishful thinking.