GDT: THE 2023 FREE AGENT FRENZY!!! Will we see a 2016 repeat of overpayments?

[Flat Ronnie]

Why?



Let's hope not

Why not? He was great with us. We could use another forward with grit.

 

[DMB06]

Don't know why everyone keeps selling our lineup short. We're still just a stacked/deep as most. THE MOST stacked (?) - who knows. But its right up there with any team.

Its not always the team with "the best shot" at winning it all. We're right up there in the short list. Best part is he's wouldn't be relied on to bring it home. We already have 10 guys that have done it. He'll be playing every night with 5 fellow future HoFers, and slot into a lineup that he knows exactly what to expect.

This is turnkey for any veteran winger bringing brought in to play top 6.

We've lost a ton of depth and quality players over the last three seasons and replaced it with nearly all minimum salary guys. We won the Cup because of our depth and it's now gone. One of our better players, Stamkos, isn't known as a playoff performer and after the playoffs (and let's be honest, season) Vasy had he's a question mark as well.

There are valid reasons why we're not looked at as legit contenders anymore.

 

[Rschmitz]

Why not? He was great with us. We could use another forward with grit.

He was great for us, but we need a scoring liner

 

[Flat Ronnie]

He was great for us, but we need a scoring liner

What scoring liner worth a damn are we gonna get for 2-2.5M?

Only option we have is a Hail Mary for Kane.

 

[Rschmitz]

What scoring liner worth a damn are we gonna get for 2-2.5M?

Only option we have is a Hail Mary for Kane.

You are suggesting a trade and another team retaining, if we are willing to do that than Kane isn't the only option.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

This is BIG

 

[Todd1a]

What scoring liner worth a damn are we gonna get for 2-2.5M?

Only option we have is a Hail Mary for Kane.

Tatar ?

 

[These Are The Days]

This is BIG

Is this fella credible or what? Also tAmPa ChEaTiNg AgAiN!!

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Is this fella credible or what? Also tAmPa ChEaTiNg AgAiN!!

You don’t think a person who goes by “Big Gucks” is credible?

 

[Todd1a]

Is this fella credible or what? Also tAmPa ChEaTiNg AgAiN!!

No lol

 

[Flat Ronnie]

You are suggesting a trade and another team retaining, if we are willing to do that than Kane isn't the only option.

Specifically Goodrow because we are familiar with him and he played exceptional for us. Also, its possible that NYR might want to get out from under that contract.

Seems like a mutually beneficial deal. Not one that would require a lot of assets going out. Which is great, because we don't have any.

 

[Sky04]

I don't think that's clear any more, I expect a big competition in camp between him and Raddysh

Based on what? 3 games? Raddysh was horrible defensively, he should never see another PK again. I don't see Raddysh playing an important game if we're fully healthy.

 

[T REX]

I'm going to throw this out there...just an observation from reading the boards. We seem to trying to rationalize or convince these replacement moves are equal to what we had. Does anyone honestly think this team is BETTER? I'm not even talking about improving...just close to last year. I'm hoping the other guys are rested. Lots of teams improved. Lots to prove.

 

[These Are The Days]

I'm going to throw this out there...just an observation from reading the boards. We seem to trying to rationalize or convince these replacement moves are equal to what we had. Does anyone honestly think this team is BETTER? I'm not even talking about improving...just close to last year. I'm hoping the other guys are rested. Lots of teams improved. Lots to prove.

If this report from "Big Glucks" or whatever it is (lmao btw) turns out true and the Lightning snag Tarasenko, this will be one of the best off-seasons they've ever had. DeHann is boring and effective, Glendening is a very good faceoff specialist, Sheary is no worse than Colton, Essymont has a full off-season and regular season to incorporate himself and Jeannot is going to be healthy. And if Archibald cracks the roster this is gonna be a bitch of a team to play against. We will have not only rebuilt the bottom 6 but will have replaced Killorn with an elite talent

You bet your ass this team is gonna be better

 

[T REX]

If this report from "Big Glucks" or whatever it is (lmao btw) turns out true and the Lightning snag Tarasenko, this will be one of the best off-seasons they've ever had. DeHann is boring and effective, Glendening is a very good faceoff specialist, Sheary is no worse than Colton, Essymont has a full off-season and regular season to incorporate himself and Jeannot is going to be healthy. And if Archibald cracks the roster this is gonna be a bitch of a team to play against. We will have not only rebuilt the bottom 6 but will have replaced Killorn with an elite talent

You bet your ass this team is gonna be better

How reliable is the source? I'd feel better with tarasenko

 

[ccman68]

Based on what? 3 games? Raddysh was horrible defensively, he should never see another PK again. I don't see Raddysh playing an important game if we're fully healthy.

cooper gave raddysh more ice time than f***ing hedman in game 6 with our season on the line but sure he is getting benched for a washed up bogosian

 

[Rschmitz]

Based on what? 3 games? Raddysh was horrible defensively, he should never see another PK again. I don't see Raddysh playing an important game if we're fully healthy.

I'm a big Bogo fan but Coopers opinion is the only one that really matters here, and he was drowning Raddysh in ice time while raving about him in interviews. Combined with the offseason rumor that we were floating around a Bogo trade, I think that is more than enough evidence that RD will be an area of competition in camp if not Raddysh having the inside track to begin with. Might not be the worse thing either with Bogo's health.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

How reliable is the source? I'd feel better with tarasenko

He's not

 

[Sky04]

cooper gave raddysh more ice time than f***ing hedman in game 6 with our season on the line but sure he is getting benched for a washed up bogosian

You're talking like Raddysh is something special he's a career AHLer but hey maybe we should play him more than Hedman this upcoming season and see how that goes.

 

[Sky04]

I'm a big Bogo fan but Coopers opinion is the only one that really matters here, and he was drowning Raddysh in ice time while raving about him in interviews. Combined with the offseason rumor that we were floating around a Bogo trade, I think that is more than enough evidence that RD will be an area of competition in camp if not Raddysh having the inside track to begin with. Might not be the worse thing either with Bogo's health.

I think they'll split time, one because they bring different skillsets and two because limiting Bogo's games isn't a bad idea but the idea of trading him is dumb, especially if there's an injury.

I doubt Raddysh has the inside track but we'll see.

 

[Rschmitz]

I think they'll split time, one because they bring different skillsets and two because limiting Bogo's games isn't a bad idea but the idea of trading him is dumb, especially if there's an injury.

I doubt Raddysh has the inside track but we'll see.

That's exactly how I see it, they bring different strengths and it's best to keep both. Raddysh brings a need with offense from the RD position which probably gives him an edge on most nights.

 

[Todd1a]

I'm going to throw this out there...just an observation from reading the boards. We seem to trying to rationalize or convince these replacement moves are equal to what we had. Does anyone honestly think this team is BETTER? I'm not even talking about improving...just close to last year. I'm hoping the other guys are rested. Lots of teams improved. Lots to prove.

This team no we’re not better we are a bit younger and faster and I see us as a playoff team. As far as a cup contender no but if you make the playoffs and get hot anything can happen.

Specifically Goodrow because we are familiar with him and he played exceptional for us. Also, its possible that NYR might want to get out from under that contract.

Seems like a mutually beneficial deal. Not one that would require a lot of assets going out. Which is great, because we don't have any.

We need a top 6 forward goodrow is a bottom 6 forward and that contract is horrible! I definitely don’t see the rangers wanting to retain 50 percent of it.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

I think they'll split time, one because they bring different skillsets and two because limiting Bogo's games isn't a bad idea but the idea of trading him is dumb, especially if there's an injury.

I doubt Raddysh has the inside track but we'll see.

People need to read this and hammer this in to their brains.



And people who think we are massively worse than last year need to seriously question being a fan of hockey. At best we went sideways, at worst we might be missing some goals if we don't replace Killorn's output even a little.

You think our -1000 fourth line is the make or break? Losing Coltons 16 goals on the third line but replacing it with Sheary's 15 is a huge down grade? Losing Killorn's goals suck, but we are better defensively as a whole squad.

Why is it so hard to maybe understand, that after Vasy's massive collapse last year, the team prioritized getting faster and better defensively. That's what every single signing did. Either got us faster or made us better defensively. f*** we might win a defensive zone draw for the first time in a decade.

JBB addressed huge holes and gaps that showed up last playoffs. Vasy looked human and it was because as a whole the defense blew their coverage consistently.

Listening to the constant whinging about how all the signings suck is getting pathetic at this point. You want to bitch about not replacing Killorn's production, sure I can get behind that. But the rest has been pretty good at addressing flaws that we had.

 

[Antiramie]

People need to read this and hammer this in to their brains.



And people who think we are massively worse than last year need to seriously question being a fan of hockey. At best we went sideways, at worst we might be missing some goals if we don't replace Killorn's output even a little.

You think our -1000 fourth line is the make or break? Losing Coltons 16 goals on the third line but replacing it with Sheary's 15 is a huge down grade? Losing Killorn's goals suck, but we are better defensively as a whole squad.

Why is it so hard to maybe understand, that after Vasy's massive collapse last year, the team prioritized getting faster and better defensively. That's what every single signing did. Either got us faster or made us better defensively. f*** we might win a defensive zone draw for the first time in a decade.

JBB addressed huge holes and gaps that showed up last playoffs. Vasy looked human and it was because as a whole the defense blew their coverage consistently.

Listening to the constant whinging about how all the signings suck is getting pathetic at this point. You want to bitch about not replacing Killorn's production, sure I can get behind that. But the rest has been pretty good at addressing flaws that we had.

Improving our 4th line was the biggest need going into the offseason, and we did that mainly via subtraction. I will take any faster, younger warm bodies over what we had. Watching teams like the Panthers and Knights consistently roll 4 lines all game was a huge reason they made it so far and a huge reason we choked so many games away...because our top guys looked f***ing gassed by the 3rd from having to carry so much of the load. Same thing that happened vs Colorado in the SCF. Our depth/speed just wasn't there.

Do we possibly need to sign another forward? Maybe? But I think JBB is waiting to see how things pan out before he signs anyone else, completely maxes out our cap, and hitches his wagon/our season to that final decision.

The one thing I would disagree with your post is saying at best we went sideways. I'd say at best we slightly improved.

 

[Sky04]

People need to read this and hammer this in to their brains.



And people who think we are massively worse than last year need to seriously question being a fan of hockey. At best we went sideways, at worst we might be missing some goals if we don't replace Killorn's output even a little.

You think our -1000 fourth line is the make or break? Losing Coltons 16 goals on the third line but replacing it with Sheary's 15 is a huge down grade? Losing Killorn's goals suck, but we are better defensively as a whole squad.

Why is it so hard to maybe understand, that after Vasy's massive collapse last year, the team prioritized getting faster and better defensively. That's what every single signing did. Either got us faster or made us better defensively. f*** we might win a defensive zone draw for the first time in a decade.

JBB addressed huge holes and gaps that showed up last playoffs. Vasy looked human and it was because as a whole the defense blew their coverage consistently.

Listening to the constant whinging about how all the signings suck is getting pathetic at this point. You want to bitch about not replacing Killorn's production, sure I can get behind that. But the rest has been pretty good at addressing flaws that we had.

Considering how much not getting an insurance defenseman at the deadline blew up in our face, I'm surprised people wanna trade...... our insurance defenseman.

There was no way you were going to replace Killorns production, anyone who didn't have him signing for 3M knew that. It's an expected loss this season, there was no way youre making the 60 points up with the cap we had, the other points I agree except the defense isn't to blame for Vasy sulking nads, that's all on him unless blowing coverage means allowing floating wristers from the blueline going in 5x in a series.

Duchene was a last minute surprise option but Tampa isn't far and away the most desirable place to play anymore, people need to understand that as well, there are lots of teams who can offer a good chance to win and afford to pay more, yelling at the sky because JBB didn't sign every big name is weird.