NFL: Texans fire Bill O'Brien

[Hasbro]

If I’m the Texans, hard pass on McDaniels.
Get Eric Bienemey from Kansas City, he and Dashaun Watson will do wonders I believe.

If I'm a Pee Wee team hard pass on McDaniels.

 

[Hasbro]

The Belichick Coaching Tree:

Al Groh 1 Season 9-7 No playoffs
Romeo Crennel 2 teams 7 Seasons 28-55 .337 No Playoffs
Nick Saban 2 Seasons 15-17 .469 No Playoffs
Eric Mangini 2 Teams 5 Seasons 33-47 .413 1 playoff 0-1
Josh McDaniels 2 Teams* 2 Seasons 11-17 .393 No Playoffs
Jim Schwartz 5 Seasons 29-51 .363 1 playoff 0-1
Bill O'Brien 7 Seasons 52-48 .520 4 Playoffs 2-4
Matt Patricia 3 Seasons (1 Ongoing) 10-25-1 .250 No Playoffs
Brian Flores 2 (1 Ongoing) 6-14 .300 No Playoffs
Joe Judge First season 0-4 .000

Cumulative:
27 Seasons (3 On Going) 193-285-1 6 out of 23 Seasons making the Playoffs** 2-6 .250 4 Division titles all by O'Brien

*Accepted and quit the Colts position on the same day
**Omitting the 3 active seasons and Romeo Crennel taking over the Chiefs mid season

Saban obviously became on of the best college coaches ever. Groh coached 9 years at Virginia and a notable CFB coaching disaster in Charlie Weis.

 

[BKIslandersFan]

The Belichick Coaching Tree:

Al Groh 1 Season 9-7 No playoffs
Romeo Crennel 2 teams 7 Seasons 28-55 .337 No Playoffs
Nick Saban 2 Seasons 15-17 .469 No Playoffs
Eric Mangini 2 Teams 5 Seasons 33-47 .413 1 playoff 0-1
Josh McDaniels 2 Teams* 2 Seasons 11-17 .393 No Playoffs
Jim Schwartz 5 Seasons 29-51 .363 1 playoff 0-1
Bill O'Brien 7 Seasons 52-48 .520 4 Playoffs 2-4
Matt Patricia 3 Seasons (1 Ongoing) 10-25-1 .250 No Playoffs
Brian Flores 2 (1 Ongoing) 6-14 .300 No Playoffs
Joe Judge First season 0-4 .000

Cumulative:
27 Seasons (3 On Going) 193-285-1 6 out of 23 Seasons making the Playoffs** 2-6 .250 4 Division titles all by O'Brien

*Accepted and quit the Colts position on the same day
**Omitting the 3 active seasons and Romeo Crennel taking over the Chiefs mid season

Saban obviously became on of the best college coaches ever. Groh coached 9 years at Virginia and a notable CFB coaching disaster in Charlie Weis.

Groh and Saban both were HC before working for Bill interestingly enough.

 

[Hasbro]

Groh and Saban both were HC before working for Bill interestingly enough.

Yep and Schwartz was with Belichick as a scout with the Brown, but he was added for the sake of completism.

 

[BKIslandersFan]

Yep and Schwartz was with Belichick as a scout with the Brown, but he was added for the sake of completism.

So no one who worked for Bill and has never had HC experience prior to working for him, had any success as HC.

Woof.

 

[Hasbro]

So no one who worked for Bill and has never had HC experience prior to working for him, had any success as HC.

Woof.

I wonder if they are his Manchurian Candidates. Feed their egos and when they get a HC job you know the team won't be contending for a while.

He gave Josh McDaniels a 5 page handwritten manual on being a Head Coach that I am dying to see. "Hire your younger brother out of High School to you coaching staff?!"

 

[EpochLink]

Would Matt Vrabel be under the Belichek coaching tree?

 

[BKIslandersFan]

Would Matt Vrabel be under the Belichek coaching tree?

I mean, indirectly I guess? He did work under BOB.

But never directly under Bill, as a coach.

 

[Halladay]

Dont worry, the Jets will hire him next year.

 

[NJDevs26]

Oof

 

[Halladay]

Oof

This is not surprising based on JJ's press conference after the game. How only he can focus on improving himself and he cant fix other parts of the team.

 

[member 157595]

Oof

That's interesting because from a fan POV Bill O'Brien the GM was infinitely worse than Bill O'Brien the coach.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

• Undermining other executives and decision-makers, including the head coach who helped bring him to Houston.
• The team’s holding workouts at the head strength coach’s house during the COVID-19 pandemic after the NFL had ordered franchises to shut down all facilities, shortly before a breakout of infections among players.
• Advocating for a trade of star receiver DeAndre Hopkins soon after arriving in Houston—one season before Hopkins was sent to Arizona in a widely panned deal.
• Fostering a culture of distrust among staff and players to the point that one Texan and two other staffers believed players were being surveilled outside the building.

 

[Halladay]

• Undermining other executives and decision-makers, including the head coach who helped bring him to Houston.
• The team’s holding workouts at the head strength coach’s house during the COVID-19 pandemic after the NFL had ordered franchises to shut down all facilities, shortly before a breakout of infections among players.
• Advocating for a trade of star receiver DeAndre Hopkins soon after arriving in Houston—one season before Hopkins was sent to Arizona in a widely panned deal.
• Fostering a culture of distrust among staff and players to the point that one Texan and two other staffers believed players were being surveilled outside the building.

I think most of the knowledgeable football fans here along with the media know he needs to go too. The fact that he wasnt sacked along with BOB is troubling.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

• Undermining other executives and decision-makers, including the head coach who helped bring him to Houston.
• The team’s holding workouts at the head strength coach’s house during the COVID-19 pandemic after the NFL had ordered franchises to shut down all facilities, shortly before a breakout of infections among players.
• Advocating for a trade of star receiver DeAndre Hopkins soon after arriving in Houston—one season before Hopkins was sent to Arizona in a widely panned deal.
• Fostering a culture of distrust among staff and players to the point that one Texan and two other staffers believed players were being surveilled outside the building.

 

[Halladay]

The timing of the Astros getting sanctioned lined up perfectly with forgetting about about the Texans blowing a 24 point lead against the Chiefs. It was the day after.