LightningStrikes
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Come to think of it, who were Tony’s linemates during his breakout season? If I recall correctly he even got a couple Selke votes.
Confirmed with Link: [TBL/CHI] Lightning trade two 1st rd picks, Raddysh, and Katchouk for Brandon Hagel, and two 4th rd picks
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DistantThunderRep
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Stephen
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How's Hagel looked with you guys so far? I think his value as a Bunting-like player on the ice and contract will be a good medium term asset for cap juggling purposes for the next couple of years, but the sticker shock on that one still has me a little surprised.
BowDownToVasilevskiy
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I think he's been ok so far, he's kind of been all over the lineup though so still waiting to see where he's really gonna slot in. I feel like he's involved in a lot of puck battles, and I kind of thought he was going to be a little bit faster.
He has been okay. Trying to find his spot in the lineup and learn the system. He has 1 goal in four games. A little disappointing so far but I won't judge him until after the season is over
He needs to time to adjust. Our offense from the big guns like Stamkos, kucherov, and point has slowed down some. That js more concerning to me. I think as their production and powerplay heats back up, he will do better.
He needs to time to adjust. Our offense from the big guns like Stamkos, kucherov, and point has slowed down some. That js more concerning to me. I think as their production and powerplay heats back up, he will do better.
Byrddog
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To tell the truth he is about invisible. He should have a spot in the lineup but has not been allowed to settle with one line yet. Bolts have not done him any favors taking so many penalties however. The last what 5 games or so 5 on 5 play has been so disrupted by specialty teams being on the ice so much it’s hard to get anything going.
TheGoldenJet
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Seems like some top 6 time for Hagel would benefit both Hagel and the Bolts.
Raddysh with a solid showing so far with his uptick in ice time with Chicago,
Sure hope Hagel can do the same next year when he (presumably) takes Palat’s spot int he lineup
Sure hope Hagel can do the same next year when he (presumably) takes Palat’s spot int he lineup
Stammertime91
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Would count on Paul taking that spot more than Hagel
The Gongshow
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And I'd much rather have Paul than Hagel who was a product of Kane and DeBrincat
LTIR Trickery
Plz stop pucks
Hes a bit of a mess currently. The skill is there but he needs to engage more, I see way too much pulling up along the boards rather than digging in. He'll get eaten f***ing alive in the playoffs doing that, among other things.
He's sill finding his way here. Give him time. Some guys adjust to change quicker than others. Also sometimes the bounces go your way and you get confidence and then have momentum (Paul). The opposite can also happen and you just need to be patient and work through it.
It took Coleman a minute to settle in too.
These Are The Days
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RIP Fugu
I came in here to see how Hagel was doing and see he is still trying to find a fit/get his game going
Raddysh has looked solid for Hawks and looks like someone who will get bigger role/chance next year as part of rebuild here
Did Katchouk always look lost in own end and awful in offensive zone with you guys? The guy has been pretty dreadful for Hawks thus far
Raddysh has looked solid for Hawks and looks like someone who will get bigger role/chance next year as part of rebuild here
Did Katchouk always look lost in own end and awful in offensive zone with you guys? The guy has been pretty dreadful for Hawks thus far
BoltzManConstant
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Savard never showed anything that was worth his rental price. Can't argue with results, but the Cup is the only thing that saved that trade.
I won't be surprised if the only value Hagel brings comes next season. Takes a lot longer to get to know a guy on ice than most appreciate. The one place we lucked out in the "Covid Cup" thing (that none of the idiots who use that term actually understand) is the restart training camp where we got to incorporate Coleman and Goodrow.
Katchouk looked good on the forecheck for us in the beginning but quickly faded. Not sure what happened but he hit a wall.
I liked Katchouk's game as a 3rd or 4th liner. Played heavy, could cycle, play pretty physical. Drove to the net. Raddysh had the better overall offensive game of course but I thought they both brought about the same overall to the team most of their time with us. The last year Raddysh got more playing time for sure though.
Nevins
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Agreed
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When this transaction took place, I couldn't believe what Tampa had given for a marginal player. In Chicago, he played with Kane and was always on the ice and on the power play. This is no longer the case in Tampa and the team could have had so much better for 2 1 st round picks and Raddysh, and Katchouk. Are you satisfied with this trade?
RussianGuyovich
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we didn't pay for the player, we payed for the contract i mean jesus f christopher someone just make a stickied note that we don't have cap space.
Stammertime91
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Yeah but you need the player to show up and justify any contract. You can't ice the contract or say we didn't overpay when the guy does nothing. Personally, I get the steep price. I also remember Coleman having a similar start but at least off the puck he was solid. Forechecked like crazy and finished his hits. It's unfair to hold a young player to those expectations but the guy is a flatline of a performer so far.
"Finding his game" to any degree would be an improvement over what we are seeing. He had two moments last night to make a play and he panicked in both. He also leaves his feet a lot for an extra reach and goes sliding. Noticed it on several occasions. If you're barely more noticeable than ABB on any given night, it's not saying much, regardless of what you cost.
RussianGuyovich
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cool. we now have the benefit of seeing him play. i was responding to someone who asked why we paid so highly for the trade, and the contract is why. if we would have had the room, we could have gotten a much more complete player for the cost, obviously.
I wouldn't. Paul is a UFA. Hagel is signed
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This is Bull Crap. Savard was great. He wasn't "Flashy" enough for you?
BoltzManConstant
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Savard was a dud who was nowhere near worth his rental price. He went minus 8 in just 14 regular season games with us, and then saw his ice time drop 30% in the playoffs because we rightly gave up on trying to make him a thing.
He was better than Luke Schenn, who is the very definition of replacement-level defenseman, but not at all worth what we spent on him.
