Speculation: Taylor Hall, the good, bad & ugly Bruin

[Little Fury]

That's ridiculous. They're not getting 2 first round picks and a defensive prospect even if Hall is extended with a favorable contract.

I'd consider that just to dump a bad contract, Hall is just gravy.

 

[Pointteen]

Taylor Hall is Overhyped and Underwhelming


https://thehockeywriters.com/taylor-hall-is-overhyped-underwhelming/

Coyotes gave up a fair bit not to even consider bringing him back. I believe even Hall said Coyotes never made any attempt to contact him after last season.

I think Edmonton might be an entirely different scenario from every other team.
I sure do. We're probably a welcome return compared to any other team. Think about what he'd do now that he sees he's not Gretz or Messier
But Anderson.
He can keep his pride and call it a hometown deal to win a cup.

Taylor Hall has no cards to play with the new guys in town.

 

[Oilslick941611]

I think Edmonton might be an entirely different scenario from every other team.
I sure do. We're probably a welcome return compared to any other team. Think about what he'd do now that he sees he's not Gretz or Messier
But Anderson.
He can keep his pride and call it a hometown deal to win a cup.

Taylor Hall has no cards to play with the new guys in town.

Andersons return to the Oilers was a mistake a divided the team and players hated him. Hall I see causing issues again with his sulking. Homecomings never work out and Halls time as an Oiler is in the past and should stay in the past.

#NoHallPLZ

 

[Del Preston]

Andersons return to the Oilers was a mistake a divided the team and players hated him. Hall I see causing issues again with his sulking. Homecomings never work out and Halls time as an Oiler is in the past and should stay in the past.

#NoHallPLZ

He's still close with some players on the team, and Holland has tried bringing him back twice before. If there was a problem, I think McDavid would have gone to management by now and said they don't want Hall in the room.

 

[Oilslick941611]

He took the Barrie route.

He signed a 1 year deal with what looked like a favourable situation (getting to be Eichels right hand man). He wanted to blow the doors off and earn a big contract.

Barrie is doing the exact same thing on the Oilers, I find it interesting that you see so many people bashing Hall for this decision but no one says a peep about Barrie

because Barrie is performing and not paid 8M. Hall has 2 goals.

 

[McOilers97]

He's still close with some players on the team, and Holland has tried bringing him back twice before. If there was a problem, I think McDavid would have gone to management by now and said they don't want Hall in the room.

Remembering how well Hall and Draisaitl played together during McDavid's injury, have to think Draisaitl would be into the idea of Hall on his LW again.

And Hall has in the past talked glowingly about Draisaitl. I remember Hall's first season in New Jersey right after being traded, he had said that he would bet on Draisaitl getting 70+ points that year, and he ended up with 77.

 

[McAsuno]

Andersons return to the Oilers was a mistake a divided the team and players hated him. Hall I see causing issues again with his sulking. Homecomings never work out and Halls time as an Oiler is in the past and should stay in the past.

#NoHallPLZ

I mean McDavid literally still hangs out with him, so if the captain wouldn't want the guy on the team, why would they be trying to possibly trade for him? Derp.

 

[Oilslick941611]

I mean McDavid literally still hangs out with him, so if the captain wouldn't want the guy on the team, why would they be trying to possibly trade for him? Derp.

you seriously think 2 goal Hall would add anything to this team?

 

[McAsuno]

you seriously think 2 goal Hall would add anything to this team?

Obviously Holland does, if they're trying to trade for him? Unless you want Kahun, Ennis, or Shore on the top 6 LW. Common sense.

 

[harpoon]

Wrong thread.

 

[McAsuno]

 

[BigFuzzyDice]

you seriously think 2 goal Hall would add anything to this team?

He'd totally add to the team, I hear next years 1oa is fire...

 

[Pointteen]

Andersons return to the Oilers was a mistake a divided the team and players hated him. Hall I see causing issues again with his sulking. Homecomings never work out and Halls time as an Oiler is in the past and should stay in the past.

#NoHallPLZ

Interesting. What evidence do you have that Homecomings never work?

Remember Smytty?

 

[Mr Positive]

I do think we need an impact winger, and it seems options are drying up out there. If Hall is a realistic option, I hope our org makes a strong push. Even if he doesn't work with McDavid, he did have good chemistry with Draisaitl. I could imagine a cascade effect where a Hall-Drai-Yam (Hydra lol) gets super hot and that allows RNH-McDavid to regain chemistry

 

[sepHF]

because Barrie is performing and not paid 8M. Hall has 2 goals.

yea, bashing his production is fine - it's pretty brutal for 8m no doubt.But i'm more talking about people saying Hall is selfish or doesn't care about winning because he took a 1 year deal in Buffalo instead of signing with a cup contender.

With covid and the flat cap and all the uncertainty I think a 1 year deal was actually pretty savvy on Hall's part, but in hindsight he shouldn't have went to Buffalo.. not sure there's a more toxic situation to be in right now

 

[McOilers97]

yea, bashing his production is fine - it's pretty brutal for 8m no doubt.But i'm more talking about people saying Hall is selfish or doesn't care about winning because he took a 1 year deal in Buffalo instead of signing with a cup contender.

With covid and the flat cap and all the uncertainty I think a 1 year deal was actually pretty savvy on Hall's part, but in hindsight he shouldn't have went to Buffalo.. not sure there's a more toxic situation to be in right now

Yeah, at the time of signing he said Buffalo offered 1 or 2 years. The fact that he took 1 year could be interpreted several ways, and needing to wait a year due to cap constraints to sign with his desired team is one of them. It certainly doesn’t say “I want to play in Buffalo long-term”.

 

[Echodek]

If this trade happens, I’d be willing to bet that the player we get in Hall would be vastly different than the one that’s playing for Buffalo. There’s no doubt in my mind that he’d be a more excited and engaged player, playing like someone who’s got something to prove.

 

[McOilers97]

If this trade happens, I’d be willing to bet that the player we get in Hall would be vastly different than the one that’s playing for Buffalo. There’s no doubt in my mind that he’d be a more excited and engaged player, playing like someone who’s got something to prove.

And would have an elite linemate to set up and be set up by. Hall would be 20+ goals again taking Draisaitl feeds.

 

[BigFuzzyDice]

If this trade happens, I’d be willing to bet that the player we get in Hall would be vastly different than the one that’s playing for Buffalo. There’s no doubt in my mind that he’d be a more excited and engaged player, playing like someone who’s got something to prove.

Oh I'm sure he'll play like his hair is on fire till the ink dries on his new deal. I can see why he wants an extension secured before he shits the bed in the playoffs

but odds are it'll be a train wreck as the guy with 2 goals tries to get his season on track in 8 or 9 games. Between gripping the stick and the pressure to perform we'll be treated to plenty of hall hockey cheating, floating and odd man rushes going the wrong way. I didn't think Holland was gonna go full chia but have my oiler branded dumpster fire ready to go as the new avatar should he stroke out n actually make this deal.

 

[aspin3]

The Oilers would regret trading Samorukov for the next 15 years. He is the left shooting D that will replace Larsson with just as mean a streak or more and has shown the offense in junior that leads to the probability he will putbup decent numbers in the pros. I would much rather give up Jones or Lagesson.

 

[McOilers97]

The Oilers would regret trading Samorukov for the next 15 years. He is the left shooting D that will replace Larsson with just as mean a streak or more and has shown the offense in junior that leads to the probability he will putbup decent numbers in the pros. I would much rather give up Jones or Lagesson.

If you will only give up a worse player, then you’ll only ever get a worse player in return.

We have a decent stable of young prospects on D. Not all of them are going to be long-term Oilers. There isn’t room for Bouchard, Broberg, and Samorukov to all be here long-term, and honestly, it wouldn’t be good asset management. We can’t have half of our top 6 on D be early 20s aged and figuring things out at the NHL level at the same time. One of them probably will have to be dealt.

 

[BigFuzzyDice]

Interesting. What evidence do you have that Homecomings never work?

Remember Smytty?

Yeah we do remember smytty. It was a great story in the paper and a sad one on the ice. His best game as a 2 time oiler was his last one.

 

[redgrant]

The funny thing about Hall fanboys is they insist he loved Edmonton wanted to play here so badly was done in wrong.

.... Okay well Taylor Hall prove it then. Tyson Barrie took an absolute sweetheart deal to come play here when he has zero ties to the oilers.

How about Taylor Hall start by saying he only wants to be traded to Edmonton at the deadline so we can have bargaining power in Edmonton. Second he resign for a $3.5 million for 3 years. It's too low? Well Tyson Barrie badly wanted to play in Edmonton and all I ever hear about is how much Taylor Hall loved Edmonton so...

 

[Pointteen]

Yeah we do remember smytty. It was a great story in the paper and a sad one on the ice. His best game as a 2 time oiler was his last one.

We didn't need Smytty to be a first liner.
Just like Hall.

I wasn't convinced. There are lots of returning home stories through sports. They're not all failures. Hall wont be one

 

[McBooya42]

because Barrie is performing and not paid 8M. Hall has 2 goals.

One guy is playing with Oilers (going to the playoffs) and the other in Buffalo (a steaming pile of burning crap). Strange how those two things aren't comparable. Your argument here resembles Buffalo.