Proposal: Taylor Hall (Extended) for Jason Zucker

[Son Goku]

Rather keep Zucker

 

[tsujimoto74]

Hall has to approve the trade partner. He can name one team and Buffalo can't do anything about it. No playing hard ball Buffalo! You might get maybe a 3rd if there is 1 team.

Better that than Zucker.

 

[67 others]

Hall for Zucker. Hall extends 5y, 6m per.

Buffalo gets a 2nd line player signed for a couple more seasons for a player that didn't fit.

Pens roll the dice that Hall would turn it around playing on a better team with Malkin since they won't play Zucker with Crosby and he doesn't fit with Malkin.

Hall goes to a contender with an extension that expires after his 34 year old season to allow for a multi-year extension if he is any good then.

The taylor Hall that went to and then mocked how hard Crosby and Marchand were working in the summer camp? Who is known to be lacksadaisal in practices himself
lol, Sid ain't letting him on that team if he has any say.

Sid may have been nice to Kessel in the media, but he made damn sure kessel wasn't on his line. So did malkin eventually.

 

[Mick Jagr]

Why would Hall accept peanuts?

What good does Zucker do for Buffalo?

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Less then negative zero interest in Hall.

 

[doublechili]

If Hall signs, doesn't he then have to be protected in the expansion draft?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I don't see Zucker waiving from a potential cup contending team in Pittsburgh, For the worst team in the NHL in Buffalo.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

If Hall signs, doesn't he then have to be protected in the expansion draft?

Yeah one would think, pretty sure he'd ask for a NMC with the deal.

 

[JBHockey]

The taylor Hall that went to and then mocked how hard Crosby and Marchand were working in the summer camp? Who is known to be lacksadaisal in practices himself
lol, Sid ain't letting him on that team if he has any say.

Sid may have been nice to Kessel in the media, but he made damn sure kessel wasn't on his line. So did malkin eventually.

I am not sure if Hall even likes to play hockey if he has to work hard at it

 

[Jerkbait]

Rather keep Zucker

God NO... as bad as hall has been zucker is almost worse and less potential. If Buffalo proposed this deal Pittsburgh would drive zucker to the airport.

 

[doublechili]

Yeah one would think, pretty sure he'd ask for a NMC with the deal.

Then better to trade for him and take your chances to re-sign him after the expansion draft (thereby not having to protect him).

 

[SomeDude]

We’ll take Hall in 2/3 years when we need to win another lottery.

Not now.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Basis of three way deal where Buffalo gets youth/picks/expiring deal. Maybe.

Buffalo adding Zucker? Makes no sense with the pending expensive rfa's.

 

[banks]

Hall has less goals this season than Cody Ceci.

Just sayin'.

 

[Jerkbait]

The taylor Hall that went to and then mocked how hard Crosby and Marchand were working in the summer camp? Who is known to be lacksadaisal in practices himself
lol, Sid ain't letting him on that team if he has any say.

Sid may have been nice to Kessel in the media, but he made damn sure kessel wasn't on his line. So did malkin eventually.

Be that as it may both sid and Malkin have Kessel to thank for 2 cups. They DONT win either without him .

 

[Jerkbait]

Hall has less goals this season than Cody Ceci.

Just sayin'.

Yet still better than zucker in most aspects ...

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

The taylor Hall that went to and then mocked how hard Crosby and Marchand were working in the summer camp? Who is known to be lacksadaisal in practices himself
lol, Sid ain't letting him on that team if he has any say.

Sid may have been nice to Kessel in the media, but he made damn sure kessel wasn't on his line. So did malkin eventually.

When/where was that?

 

[Bluto]

Legitimate questions
1) when has a sign and trade actually happened in the NHL?
2) why does it add value to the player when the team could just sign them in the offseason?
The only reason why sign and trades happen in the NBA is for cap reasons.

 

[Strakanator]

Hall to Pittsburgh as a rental is a possibility if 1/2 retained. The pieces would obviously be different.

 

[Djp]

Legitimate questions
1) when has a sign and trade actually happened in the NHL?
2) why does it add value to the player when the team could just sign them in the offseason?
The only reason why sign and trades happen in the NBA is for cap reasons.

sign and trades are done in the NBA due to the cap rules on exceeding caps based on salary structures.

in deals teams do ask for permission to find out terms in getting an extension prior to a deal because of debate on value giving up given uncertainty in resigning.

an example of this was buffalos trade for ROR who had 1 full yr left before being a UFA. He was traded for 3 young prospects + a late 1st ( today’s draft spot). That was too much to give up for a one yr rental but fair if they knew he’d get signed to an extension.

it will be more common going forward because teams now CANT attach conditional picks if a player gets signed to an extension.

in the passed you traded a high profile player teams attached conditionals on if a player gets resigned. Buffalo did thus when they traded Ryan’s Miller and Evander Kane. San Jose did this in the Karlsson trade that kicked in when he got resigned.

It would be a way to prevent a team from resigning a player viewed as someone they would trade off then resign. An example in this would be Buffalo-Toronto and Ullmark. Buffalo might say trade him for a 2nd to Toronto and Thrn added condition if 2 1sts if he gets resigned by Toronto. Now they can’t do that, so they want full potential value now.

 

[LiffLaff]

Legitimate questions
1) when has a sign and trade actually happened in the NHL? /QUOTE]
Mark Stone to Vegas comes to mind, though he did sign after getting traded, but pretty sure they traded for him with the understanding he'd sign.

 

[OCPenguin]

Better that than Zucker.

Tristan Jarry has more assists than Hall has goals. Are you sure about it. Very debatable. I keep Zucker. Hall is trash right now.

 

[66-30-33]

We’ll take Hall in 2/3 years when we need to win another lottery.

Not now.

Hall, Duchene, Jack Johnson....

*puke*

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Zucker has a 10-team no trade clause. Guarantee Buffalo is on it.

End of story.

 

[Mick Jagr]

If Hall signs, doesn't he then have to be protected in the expansion draft?

Not that either team would EVER do this, but I'd be much rather protect him than Jason Zucker.