Tatar hasn't played on good playoffs teams. The Detroit teams he played on were trending down big time. With Vegas it just didn't work. I would love to see him on Boston, Edmonton, Colorado or Tampa Bay. I bet things would be a little different this time.
Only one team will get Kreider. Tatar is by far the second best LW available (not even sure he is available, to be honest), and he's signed for cheap. At 50% retained, that would make him 20-25 goal/60+ points top line LW at a caphit of 2.65 M/per for 2 runs. St-Louis will certainly see a lot of value in that.
You could be correct I guess we will find out soon. I maintain if traded it won’t be for the Coleman return however I think he definitely gets less even though all Montreal fans would say he’s a better player.
A lot of players outscore Coleman, that’s not why he got such a big return, it’s also why Josh Anderson would get a lot more on the trade market than his stats would suggest. Like I said we will find out soon, it would really surprise me but I’ve been wrong before.But the fact remains... he's a better player! And by a fair margin. He's outscoring Coleman by... a lot. And he's been doing so and consistently for a long time. He's only a year older. His advanced stats are insanely better. He skates slower and does not PK, but that's about it. He's a real 1st line winger, and a good one at that.
At 50% retained, he'd cost about 865 000$ more than Coleman. I really fail to see why he'd get less than Coleman, especially with Bergevin track record selling assets. He might not be the best GM, but the guy gets value when he sells.
Just saw that Rantanen got injured... and Bergevin and Mellanby are at the game in Colorado tonight. I guess we'll see soon enough if someone really wants a first line LW!
so u would like Drouin but be upset for Tatar??!?!? How does that even make sense? Is your rational solely based on the age gap? Cuz Tatar is much better now and puts in a much bigger effort on a gamely basis.
Drouin would be the second choice after Domi but like I said I really doubt he comes cheap enough to make it worth while, the what if of a Mackinnon Drouin reunion has always been intriguing for Avs fans but the ship has likely sailed and the team could use less skill and more grit anyways. That and yes the age gap are big reasons why as Drouin has his own fair share of warts. Drouin also has actually looked good in the playoffs while Tatar has been pretty disappointing there. Also his contract is a better fit for Avs, Tatar’s cheaper second year doesn’t matter as much as Drouins term since the Avs will really need the cap space later on, that and Tatar’s next deal may not be a pretty one for his 30’s whole Drouin should just now be hitting his prime.
Then i guess Tampa made a big mistake in giving up valuable assets for Coleman. We all know how Tampa performs in the playoffs.
Hopefully Bergevin had enough class to not start licking his chops in front of Sakic when he went down.But the fact remains... he's a better player! And by a fair margin. He's outscoring Coleman by... a lot. And he's been doing so and consistently for a long time. He's only a year older. His advanced stats are insanely better. He skates slower and does not PK, but that's about it. He's a real 1st line winger, and a good one at that.
At 50% retained, he'd cost about 865 000$ more than Coleman. I really fail to see why he'd get less than Coleman, especially with Bergevin track record selling assets. He might not be the best GM, but the guy gets value when he sells.
Just saw that Rantanen got injured... and Bergevin and Mellanby are at the game in Colorado tonight. I guess we'll see soon enough if someone really wants a first line LW!
You do know Timmins is a great D prospect and he could step up in the NHL very soon? Could very well replace Petry faster than you think.
Pre -Coleman trade we probably take that and run even if we required retention. That trade could set the market or conversely could actually f*** it up. Supply might now go up for anyone on the fence thinking there’s a huge return awaiting them and then suddenly demand goes down until the TDL gets closer then just becomes a game of chicken where Tatar and Petry not being UFAs works in our favor if we don’t get what we want.
Deal, only because I'm sure you at least make it to the third round with Tatar added to your lineup, and I like Samorukov in same team as Romanov!
That’s 2 mystery boxes for Montreal, maybe if there was also a condition that if JP doesn’t get at least 30 points in the NHL next season the 2nd also becomes a 1st but looking like a sellers market at the moment so would hold out for more.
First or no deal for me. Not high on Pulj, and I think we could get more value elsewhere
