Tank scoreboard alert.

[Matias Maccete]

For me:

1.Matthews
2.Laine
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3. Puljujarvi
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4.Chychrun
5/6. Dubois/Tkachuk
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7.Sergachev

Where does juolevi fit in? Right after sergachev?

 

[rt]

Where does juolevi fit in? Right after sergachev?

Yeah, along with Gauthier and Nylander in some order. Juolevi's lack of a hallmark, stand-out quality makes me nervous. Gives me the Gormleys.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Yeah, along with Gauthier and Nylander in some order. Juolevi's lack of a hallmark, stand-out quality makes me nervous. Gives me the Gormleys.

Gormley was a slow skater, Juolevi isn't a slow skater. Apples & Oranges

 

[Matias Maccete]

Yeah, along with Gauthier and Nylander in some order. Juolevi's lack of a hallmark, stand-out quality makes me nervous. Gives me the Gormleys.

Ah so more or a safe lower upside pick.

 

[hbk]

Do you? You have probably seen these kids play more than us. How do you rank them right now?

I'm waiting until after U18s. I'm going to it this year for medal games/semi finals.

 

[XX]

The take away for me is that good ownership, management, and coaching trumps high draft picks. Also, trading your first round pick can be a good strategy.

The Red Wings are an anomaly as much as the Oilers are. It's not realistic to expect every franchise to be managed that well. The NHL is very competitive, so any team restructuring and trading away their dead weight will probably fall out of playoff contention. That's just the way it is. And if you're going to bottom out, you may as well bottom out hard.

Ignoring the Oilers, there's teams like LA or Chicago that got that top pick and moved back out of the bottom (and on to cups in some cases). That's the purpose the draft serves in every major NA sport. The system works. You occasionally get some deadbeat teams that don't aspire to be good hanging around, but that's no reason to drastically overhaul the system.

 

[kihekah19*]

I don't really buy this argument. One player, maybe Chipchura should be worried about this. Literally the entire rest of the team should try as hard as they can to get a great talent to play with them (under that other system - which I would fully support). Imagine how excited OEL, Domi, Duke, list goes on, would be to snag Matthews.

Gotta admit it's getting annoying having to cheer for loses because of the current structure logically demanding it.

I agree and actually don't think would be coward enough to not want to win/give his best effort for fear of losing his job. In fact, I'd be quite certain that anyone who's made it to this level is competitive enough (kind of an understatement), that they would have the attitude of "no kids' gonna take my job" and would work to that end.

 

[rt]

I agree that players would not dog-it on purpose to weaken their draft position. I do think it's equally absurd that they'd play any harder simply to improve their draft position. I imagine the players play exactly has hard or not hard as they always would have regardless of any and all entry draft ramifications. They just don't care either way, IMO.

Shane Doan is an extremely rare exception that is so deeply invested that he actually considers these things. 98% of players don't give a rat's ass about the entry draft I would wager.

So my joke is no more or less sensible than Doan's proposal. There would be no measurable difference in team performance if the league were to adopt this.

 

[rt]

The Red Wings are an anomaly as much as the Oilers are. It's not realistic to expect every franchise to be managed that well. The NHL is very competitive, so any team restructuring and trading away their dead weight will probably fall out of playoff contention. That's just the way it is. And if you're going to bottom out, you may as well bottom out hard.

Ignoring the Oilers, there's teams like LA or Chicago that got that top pick and moved back out of the bottom (and on to cups in some cases). That's the purpose the draft serves in every major NA sport. The system works. You occasionally get some deadbeat teams that don't aspire to be good hanging around, but that's no reason to drastically overhaul the system.

I completely agree. I think the current lottery format is a good one.

 

[rt]

Gormley was a slow skater, Juolevi isn't a slow skater. Apples & Oranges

Gormley was a passable skater in juniors and Juolevi has slightly above average junior level mobility. This isn't Erik Karlsson versus Nik Grossmann, here.

 

[kihekah19*]

I agree that players would not dog-it on purpose to weaken their draft position. I do think it's equally absurd that they'd play any harder simply to improve their draft position. I imagine the players play exactly has hard or not hard as they always would have regardless of any and all entry draft ramifications. They just don't care either way, IMO.

Shane Doan is an extremely rare exception that is so deeply invested that he actually considers these things. 98% of players don't give a rat's ass about the entry draft I would wager.

So my joke is no more or less sensible than Doan's proposal. There would be no measurable difference in team performance if the league were to adopt this.

That argument completely ignores what is the more important aspect of this and that is management. Players don't tank, management does.

 

[0point1]

A Buffalo win against Columbus today will prevent the Yotes from moving up to 9th.

 

[Grimes]

Buffalo....

 

[GiveAFlyingPuck]

8 Apr
Columbus beats Buffalo.

Place|

Team|Points|Games Remaining|Opponents
1|

Toronto|69|01|@NJD
2|Edmonton|69|01|@VAN
3|Columbus|74|01|CHI
4|Vancouver|73|01|@EDM
5|

Calgary|75|01|@MIN
6|Winnipeg|76|01|@LA
7|

Arizona|78|01|@SJS
8|

Buffalo|79|01|@NYI
9|Montreal|80|01|TB
10|New Jersey|82|01|TOR​

7th. 8th or 9th if we win and others don't. We have the tiebreaker (ROW) over the Jets, Sabres, and Canadiens.

Ideally I'd like to see us win tomorrow along with Buffalo and Montreal. 80 points would be more aesthetically pleasing in 7th place.

 

[kihekah19*]

Stellick and Simmermrun the simulator every morning on Sirius XM and the Yotes won this morning! Now I've ran it several times myself and sometimes we win, but I'll tell you what - it sure was exciting hearing someone say it over the air!

Keep the faith boys.

 

[ClassLessCoyote]

I just ran the simulator and the Coyotes won it followed by the Oilers and the Blue Jackets.

 

[MIGs Dog]

The Red Wings are an anomaly as much as the Oilers are. It's not realistic to expect every franchise to be managed that well.

Statistically speaking a 25 year playoff run is a long shot, but that should not mean you would not expect excellence in management.

If you are the new owners, do you come in and say "we want to have a first class organizations that the top players in the league WANT to play for", or do you say "that's unrealistic, let's just shoot for average".

Sounds corny, but you should always shoot for the stars. Might not make it, but you definitely will not make it if you don't try.

 

[MIGs Dog]

Ideally I'd like to see us win tomorrow along with Buffalo and Montreal. 80 points would be more aesthetically pleasing in 7th place.

I'm hoping that we CRUSH the Sharks. Doan hits 30 goals, Domi breaks the rookie point mark, and Smitty pitches a shutout.

Need those good vibrations to reverberate throughout the long, hot, Arizona summer.

P.S. Yotes will make the playoffs next year, a new arena will be under construction, and season ticket sales will see a significant jump.

P.S.S. If you are short of optimism let me know and I'll do my best Tony Robbins impersonation.

 

[Jakey53]

I'm hoping that we CRUSH the Sharks. Doan hits 30 goals, Domi breaks the rookie point mark, and Smitty pitches a shutout.

Need those good vibrations to reverberate throughout the long, hot, Arizona summer.

P.S. Yotes will make the playoffs next year, a new arena will be under construction, and season ticket sales will see a significant jump.

P.S.S. If you are short of optimism let me know and I'll do my best Tony Robbins impersonation.

I'm not quite that optimistic. The Yotes will push for a playoff spot next year and a new arena will be under construction.

 

[kihekah19*]

Great stuff there MIG!

 

[cobra427]

I'm hoping that we CRUSH the Sharks. Doan hits 30 goals, Domi breaks the rookie point mark, and Smitty pitches a shutout.

Need those good vibrations to reverberate throughout the long, hot, Arizona summer.

P.S. Yotes will make the playoffs next year, a new arena will be under construction, and season ticket sales will see a significant jump.

P.S.S. If you are short of optimism let me know and I'll do my best Tony Robbins impersonation.

Good post! I think the playoffs are possible next year too. If we pick up a 1RHD(not likely) or a solid second pairing LHD like Yandle, it becomes more likely. If we don't improve our D, then I don't see us having a good chance at the playoffs. I'll wait until the off season/roster changes to predict anything, too early to tell.

 

[0point1]

Montreal grabs the 9th spot.

Yotes will finish either 7th or 8th.

 

[0point1]

Yotes finish 7th!

 

[mouser]

So 7th it is. 20% chance to draft in the top 3

 

[ClassLessCoyote]

An update from the main board.

Draft lottery teams (just added)
1st - Toronto - 69 points - clinched this spot
2nd - Edmonton - 69 points, max 71 (27 R/OT wins) - clinched this spot
3rd - Vancouver - 73 points, max 75 (26 R/OT wins) - clinched this spot
4th - Columbus - 76 points (27 R/OT wins) - clinched this spot
Calgary - 77 points (33 R/OT wins) - tied head-to-head with CBJ, tied with WPG -30 goal diff - will be in 5th or 6th slot
Winnipeg - 76 points, max 78 (32 R/OT wins) - tied head-to-head with CGY, -25 goal diff - will be in 5th or 6th slot
7th - Arizona - 78 points, max 80 (34 R/OT wins) - clinched this spot
8th - Buffalo - 81 points (32 R/OT wins) - clinched this spot
9th - Montreal - 82 clinched this spot
10th - Colorado - 82 points (35 R/OT wins) - clinched this spot
11th - New Jersey - 82 points (36 R/OT wins) - clinched this spot
12th - Ottawa - 85 points - clinched this spot
13th - Carolina - 86 points - clinched this spot
14th - Boston- 93 points clinched this spot