I'm just not seeing why Perlini is being seen as such a solid prospect. By some accounts he slowed down as the season progressed (rather than showing improvement). His performance at the U-18 seemed to indicate a lack of any jam in his game. He seemed like a perimeter-oriented players. Those are the types that I think have a big "bust" potential, especially for a top-10 pick.
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I'm just not seeing why Perlini is being seen as such a solid prospect. By some accounts he slowed down as the season progressed (rather than showing improvement). His performance at the U-18 seemed to indicate a lack of any jam in his game. He seemed like a perimeter-oriented players. Those are the types that I think have a big "bust" potential, especially for a top-10 pick.
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I'm really warming up to us chosing a big defenseman like Fleury if the skilled forwards (Ehlers, Nylander) are gone by 9th.
Here is a dated (Sept/13) scouting report on him with some pros and cons............
Fleury is a physical, good skating defenseman who received more and more ice time as the season went along, and eventually was out on the ice to play against the opponent’s top lines on a nightly basis. Fleury’s game at both ends is quite impressive for his age, and is well on his way to be a top defenseman in the WHL.
For his size, Fleury has exceptional skating abilities. He has very good speed, and his footwork in tight areas is exceptional. He can maintain a very tight gap off the rush and use his reach to angle opponents to the boards and poke away pucks to create turnovers. He can still learn to take better angles on opposing forwards to take away any sort of offensive opportunities. Fleury plays a physical game, and is very difficult to play against on a consistent basis. He is very strong along the walls, and because of his speed and size, he rarely ever has to hook or trip players to prevent them from having a scoring opportunity. He does not take undisciplined penalties, and understands that he is more valuable to his team when he is out on the ice and not in the penalty box.
Offensively, Fleury is an above average puck mover. He can still improve on his passes out of the zone and allow his team to break out smoothly. He is not afraid to carry the puck himself into the offensive zone and provide another weapon on the rush. He has a good shot from the point, but needs to work on getting it through traffic or having a shorter back swing on his slap shots to get shots off more quickly when necessary. He does not possess elite vision or skills, but has shown that he can handle the puck well enough.
Fleury definitely has all the tools to become an NHL player one day. He still has improvements to make in his game, but much of that comes from more experience. He projects as a top 4 shut down defenseman as his offensive game is not exceptional, but he could certainly fill in some PP time when necessary. He will be counted on to play even more minutes next season, and Fleury will have an excellent opportunity to further raise his draft stock for 2014.
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The physical game is the drawback with Perlini, but he still needs to fill out and develop a bit physically. The mix of speed and skill combined with the body once he does fill out...I think the red flags on him are similar to the ones on Scheifele, and although they play different positions, they are comparable in style.
I prefer a guy in that mold than one like Ritchie, who is purposefully physical in some games to the detriment of his play, plus I just can't wrap my head around a guy having the BMI of an offensive lineman as a 17 year old being a top 10 prospect in the long run. He's either a generational freak of nature, or he'll have to do a lot of work on conditioning and his body, and continuously be on that. This is the classic type of bust, big guy with the complaints of taking shifts off already dogging him.
StronGeer
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Sounds very similar to Bogo. Big, fast, defensively sound, acceptable offense.
Morrissey - Trouba
Fleury - Bogo
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I'm ok with that.
Morrissey - Trouba
Fleury - Bogo
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I'm ok with that.
Fleury defeinitely stuck out to me with his size and skating compared to the other defensemen. Virtanen impressed me enough I'd be fine with taking him. Obviously no problem taking Ehlers or Nylander if they are there. Didn't get a chance to see Fiala.
CaptainChef
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Fiala has not been rated high (just cracked the top 30 ISS list) but the little I seen of him in the U18s looked mighty impressive
Sweech
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Just for ***** and giggles this is my list (of the guys you mentioned) currently (not the final, but close enough):
Ehlers
Fiala
Virtanen
Fleury
Fabbri
Ritchie
Perlini
Yeah, I know you didn't say Fiala, but I couldn't help myself.
Well, I expect that the Jets are likely to have their pick of one of your top two - Ehlers or Fiala. Now watch them drive you crazy by selecting Perlini....
CaptainChef
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I'm reasonaby close to the same, moving Fleury up & Virtanen down
Ehlers
Fleury
Fiala
Ritchie
Perlini
Virtanen
Fabbri
Now if Nylander drops, he's prob still behind Ehlers here
Channelcat
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I know next year's draft is the McDavid/Eichiel draft, but Hanifin looks like the real deal. A Hanifin/Trouba pairing for say, a decade or so would be pretty great.
Forgive the hyperbole but Hanifin is off the charts. Don't be shocked if he is right there with those two next June.
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I think he'll be off the board when we pick. Now, about getting Klingberg into the lineup on the 4th line...
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He' s no Forsberg (Filip) If he's still on the board at 9 I think Chevy's picking him.
StronGeer
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Good thing we're not picking around 4-6 or else this forum would turn into GJF/Draisaitl vs. Romang/Nylander
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Sweech
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Good thing we're not picking around 4-6 or else this forum would turn into GJF/Draisaitl vs. Romang/Nylander
It's a good thing we're not picking 4-6 because then this team would have had a losing culture, those last couple games were critical. Draft position is meaningless.
We should even trade our 1st for a 6th straight up since I've seen 1st round picks bust and Pavel Datsyuk was a 6th round pick. So obviously picking higher means absolutely nothing.
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GJF
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Good thing we're not picking around 4-6 or else this forum would turn into GJF/Draisaitl vs. Romang/Nylander
Draisaitl is the first EVER German player to go Top-10, let alone Top-5 maybe.
Sturm was 19th overall.
There are plenty Swedish Top-10 players, I'd expect you to choose my side!
During the U-18 broadcasts I found him routinely digging at Virtanen for lack of discipline, etc. (Virtanen did take at least one bad penalty). Other than that, I expect that he found it difficult to reconcile having Perlini ranked top 10 and Virtanen in the 40's.
If Button is so concerned about discipline and "character" issues, one wonders why he ranked Dumba #2 overall in his draft year.
I expect that Virtanen will shoot up Button's final list, or he'll need to be more explicit in expressing his concerns. Right now, it doesn't make much sense to have Virtanen so much below some of the other players based on performance.
Channelcat
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It's a good thing we're not picking 4-6 because then this team would have had a losing culture, those last couple games were critical. Draft position is meaningless.
We should even trade our 1st for a 6th straight up since I've seen 1st round picks bust and Pavel Datsyuk was a 6th round pick. So obviously picking higher means absolutely nothing.
Most of the guys I like at #9 are generally ranked 15-25, so its just fine with me.
Definitely. Playing with such passion and desire to win those last couple meaningless games will turn this team around and make us a contender. We would definitely be worse off losing those games and finishing 4-6. Probably not anyone better in that range than what we can get at 9th spot anyway. And besides, Chevy would have gone off board with that pick and selected the same guy we get at 9th because he's smarter than every other GM.
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