How come all the established teams didn’t have similar results?
Post-Game Talk: Sweet 16
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Because they lost to the Flyers.
The Flyers record is clearly hella impressive, no disputing that. I just think you can't compare streaks between eras, too much is just fundamentally different.
Stoneman89
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And that as the year they lost to the Islanders in game 6 of the finals, on the disputed Bobby Nystrom OT goal that they contended was offside. Who knows, in todays world, maybe it gets wiped out, and history is much different.Because they lost to the Flyers.
The Flyers record is clearly hella impressive, no disputing that. I just think you can't compare streaks between eras, too much is just fundamentally different.
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
Isn't it nice when the PbP guy lets the crowd take over? Always a nice moment.
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It was great to be part of that crowd, what a feeling in that building.
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A minute to go in a mid season regular season game and the crowd is going crazy. Perry's seen it all, but I bet he hasn't seen this.
Dont forget Moose Jaw, Broadview, Moosomin too…
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ohheyhemsky
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Not sure I agree here. One could argue the opposite, that a 32 team league is more watered down than a 16 team league. One could also argue that the prior playoff format incentivized all teams to remain in the race, and attempt to win games. "Rebuilds" as a concept was non existent at the time. All teams were in the race for playoffs and even a bump win streak would lift a club into the playoffs over the very few that missed. Even the Oilers saw that fortune in 1980. All teams still having a chance at playoffs down the stretch meant that all teams would still be trying.
Contrast with today and teams long before TDL have thoughts on "tanking" and getting top picks vs continuing to try to be competitive. The concept of selling off assets at TDL also somewhat newer. Thats a non compete element increasingly in todays NHL. Some clubs gaining, some clubs bailing. Those are non competitive aspects.
Other factors are that 32 teams means that rivalries are now rare. In a 16 team league you are often playing rivals, and more often playing every team. This meaning that more bad blood developed, more intensity developed etc.
Now instead we see weird results like Vancouver being something like 12-0-1 against EC clubs because they just don't care. Flames classically get thsi result as well. Increasingly in 2024 in 32 team league teams are not up for all games. You watch games and its not uncommon for one team, or both to not even show up in a game. Where both teams are playing badly.
Lastly when Flyers had that streak hockey salaries were a pittance compared to today. Meaning that all teams had access to players, and keeping players, financially. Player cost was a very manageable part of hockey expenditures back then. Meaning most clubs could be competitive on financial basis. Meaning even teams back then like LA or Buffalo could still have some of the best players in the world, and have them longterm. Meaning ultimately that they usually avoided being terrible clubs. Indeed terrible clubs were rare back then. Didn't stay that way for long.
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Baffling that you would have him on the 2nd line and a vet like Perry on the 4th line.
Perry 16GP 3G 4A 7 ES Pts 10:48 ES TOI(CHI)
Duclair 44GP 7G 4A 11 ES Pts 14:43 ES TOI(SJ)
FLA fans hated him last spring because he's soft and plays would die on his stick. His speed is gone and he brings nothing else that Perry, Foegele or even Gagner dont
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You think its baffling that I'm not judging Duclair solely based on his statistics on the most offensively endemic team in the NHL and completely disregarding his production with elite linemates in Florida, a more comparable lineup for Edmonton, and realising that Perry hasn't played 2nd line minutes on a good team in years? Really? That's the baffling part?
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I still remember the ending of that Edmonton LA game where we finally made the playoffs aftee ten years
"save Talbot. Another save Talbot. Another shot. Save Talbot. Talbot talbot talbot!"
Not disregarding that he rode the coattails of two elite players having career years.
Perry has proven in the past few years that he can have a positive impact in the playoffs playing without elite players. Duclair is a ghost come the playoffs and the last thing this team needs.
I'll repeat that I don't think Perry should be on the 2nd line but Duclair shouldn't be on this team
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2showToffoliIwascool
Kind of like Hyman? Or RNH? You may call it riding coattails but many others call it complimentary scoring. We've had enough years of watching the 2 best forwards in the league to know that not every winger can produce with elite talent. We're wayyy past that.
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By the way guys this streak started when I took my kid to see them spank the NJ Devils. I am truly a lucky talisman and I believe the organization should pay me to attend key games.
I must be a reverse talisman then. I went to the debacle against the Canes in Raleigh and actually walked out of the game after the first period. First and only time I've ever ditched the team that early.
And ever since I walked out on them, they've been virtually lights out. Almost feels like that game was a crucial turning point for the season.
The Oilers are 24W-3L since the McDavid Draisaitl bench taps in the last blow out loss to Carolina. At that point the Oilers were 2W-3L under Knoblauch and had blown leads earlier in that road trip against Tampa and Florida. Not a big moment itself, but I think it was a point were both of them had enough and along with the changes the new coach staff was still implementing turned the season around.
The change in composure since that game is noticeable, and that is the biggest change.
The change in composure since that game is noticeable, and that is the biggest change.
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So true I mean besides Drai and maybe Nuge until Hyman came on the scene it was still Maroon who showed the best chemistry with Connor.
I was at the game with a coworker who wouldn’t shut up about work. Really wanted to punch him in the head because he was ruining my special game lol
