Management Sweeney: "We're Looking to Make Changes" - II

[Gee Wally]

Besides the contract, the biggest reason I stay away from OEL is the NMC - which I guess is part of the contract.

Under the new CBA, when a player waives his NMC, it now automatically follows him to his new team. That means automatic protection in the expansion draft.

Furthermore, if he doesn't work out, your hands are tied in trying to move him because of that NMC.

And his contract isn't even set up where you could dump him to a team needing to add cap hits at much lower dollars. In fact, his contract is set up so terribly, that it wouldn't even be allowed under the new CBA.

 

[The don godfather]

...and what would that take? What is the value?

Carlo debrusk lauzon and n. Ritchie . Too much ?

 

[HumBucker]

Can we just grab a D-man with super-strong knees and transplant one to Kevan Miller? We could have used a punishing defender these last 2 post-seasons.

 

[Gee Wally]

Can we just grab a D-man with super-strong knees and transplant one to Kevan Miller? We could have used a punishing defender these last 2 post-seasons.

 

[dredeye]

Can we just grab a D-man with super-strong knees and transplant one to Kevan Miller? We could have used a punishing defender these last 2 post-seasons.

He was certainly missed. We need some ruggedness back on this team. We aren’t a playoff built team anymore.

 

[mflo77]

I think the huge difference would be a) cost to bring in Barrie and b) he'd be on your 3rd pairing, not your 2nd pairing like Krug.

If Krug leaves for big money and you could bring in Barrie (similar offensive impact) for significantly less then you're not losing offensive production on the back end. With Carlo and McAvoy already holding down your top 2 RHD spots, Barrie slides into the spot that fits him best which (like Krug) is a 3rd pairing PP specialist.

Tyson Barrie is NOT what the Bruins need. stay away from barrie. he cant play defense. Time to see what guys like Vaak, Zboril, Lauzon can do in a full season with the big boys.

 

[member 96824]

Arguably the greatest scene in TV history. Kills me every time.

 

[BTO]

Please continue from here:

Sweeney: "We're Looking to Make Changes"

Why should their level of activity on the free-agent market depend on their ability to make roster moves (except for signing Jake)? They have already have $15+m in cap space, plus a 10% offseason cushion.

The only other two roster moves of any pressing financial import are:
1) getting rid of Moore's $2.75m;
2) buying out Ritchie (which actually gives us a credit of $167k this year and only costs us $333k next year).

Get whomever you want/need and then get rid of whomever you need to.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Why should their level of activity on the free-agent market depend on their ability to make roster moves (except for signing Jake)? They have already have $15+m in cap space, plus a 10% offseason cushion.

The only other two roster moves of any pressing financial import are:
1) getting rid of Moore's $2.75m;
2) buying out Ritchie (which actually gives us a credit of $167k this year and only costs us $333k next year).

Get whomever you want/need and then get rid of whomever you need to.

Nick will get claimed when hes demoted.

Maybe not if its right after camp when teams have a handshake agreement to not claim guys.

Why get rid of Moore until we see what we have with the kids. He'll have positive value as the deadline approaches.

I just pray this is it for Chara and we can let Bergeron finally wear the C. He should have been given it after the Thornton trade but of course when we didn't do the right thing Z wouldn't sign without it.

 

[Dr Hook]

Why should their level of activity on the free-agent market depend on their ability to make roster moves (except for signing Jake)? They have already have $15+m in cap space, plus a 10% offseason cushion.

The only other two roster moves of any pressing financial import are:
1) getting rid of Moore's $2.75m;
2) buying out Ritchie (which actually gives us a credit of $167k this year and only costs us $333k next year).

Get whomever you want/need and then get rid of whomever you need to.

I don't see a buyout for Ritchie. THey just traded a useful player in Heinen for him, and they are going to want to give him every chance to pull it together, as well they should. If he can do it, he could be a great asset. If not, they can waive him and if he gets claimed, great. If not, they can bury 2/3 of his salary in Providence, so the cap hit is almost negligible, and try to move him by the deadline or let him walk at the end of the season.

I do concur with moving Moore. He is an expensive piece of press box furniture. They are better off rolling with Steve Kampfer as that 7/8 defensman if they feel they need a veteran option.

 

[bruinmann77]

Trade Krug rights for a draft pick

 

[Tbaybruin]

So we are just throwing shiny names up against the wall I see. Barrie? Gross.

The soft Seguin is in the Cup finals. Cam Neely must be in shock. Talent wins.

Ya seguin isn’t the reason they are in the finals

 

[The don godfather]

Trade krug for a draft pick at least a 5 th round. Sign hall ..

 

[BTO]

Nick will get claimed when hes demoted.

Maybe not if its right after camp when teams have a handshake agreement to not claim guys.

Why get rid of Moore until we see what we have with the kids. He'll have positive value as the deadline approaches.

I just pray this is it for Chara and we can let Bergeron finally wear the C. He should have been given it after the Thornton trade but of course when we didn't do the right thing Z wouldn't sign without it.

You mean don't buy him out, just demote him and hope he gets claimed? And if he doesn't can we still buy him out? I doubt it, Isn't there a window? also, we get $167k credit this year if we buy him out (and costs $333k next year towards the cap).

And we trade Moore for his $2.75m. What, exactly, does he bring anyway?

 

[BTO]

I don't see a buyout for Ritchie. THey just traded a useful player in Heinen for him, and they are going to want to give him every chance to pull it together, as well they should. If he can do it, he could be a great asset. If not, they can waive him and if he gets claimed, great. If not, they can bury 2/3 of his salary in Providence, so the cap hit is almost negligible, and try to move him by the deadline or let him walk at the end of the season.

I do concur with moving Moore. He is an expensive piece of press box furniture. They are better off rolling with Steve Kampfer as that 7/8 defensman if they feel they need a veteran option.

Depends what we want to do. If we want Hall and an upgrade to the LD through UFA, then we need cap space.
If we upgrade LD through a trade then fine, but I think we can get Hall and upgrade LD without trading half the team for OEL (who appears to be going to Edm anyway). But then we need every dime we can get.
Also, say we get Hall and re-sign Jake. Where's Ritchie going to play? Sure, 3rd-line RW, but then what about Bjork? Or Studs?
If, if, we get Hall, why keep the dead weight as well?
Again, buying out Ritchie gives us $167k credit this year. But I'm sure you're right, Sweeney will keep Ritchie and lose DeBrusk or something.

 

[BTO]

Anyway none of that was my main point. My main point was:

why should their level of activity on the free-agent market depend on their ability to make roster moves? They have already have $15+m in cap space, plus a 10% offseason cushion.

 

[Dr Hook]

Anyway none of that was my main point. My main point was:

why should their level of activity on the free-agent market depend on their ability to make roster moves? They have already have $15+m in cap space, plus a 10% offseason cushion.

This. Sign your targets, then sort it out. They need to get the wing finally. Obviously have an eye on the cap and what can be done , but creative

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

on the official NHL site, he’s listed 5’11” 197 lbs.

It’s been said a few times that Barrie would have to come here on a prove it deal. He had a down year for himself and who knows what he gets on the market. I’d entertain it if he came cheap. Anything around Krug’s 5M ballpark and I pass.

hell no to Barrie. We don't need another righty and Krug is already one of the guys. If you're gonna have a one-dimensional offensive D on this team might as well keep the guy that everyone on the roster loves and actually fits on the left side of the lineup.

 

[JOKER 192]

Anyway none of that was my main point. My main point was:

why should their level of activity on the free-agent market depend on their ability to make roster moves? They have already have $15+m in cap space, plus a 10% offseason cushion.

I'm guessing he means trades that bring higher cap hits back otherwise it makes no sense. Even then if the cap hit get's wiped out with a trade, I can't wait to see what star we traded for a bunch of meh players.

i.e Pasta for 2 4th line plugs ,a 3rd liner , a tweener middle 6 RW and 7th round pick

 

[JOKER 192]

hell no to Barrie. We don't need another righty and Krug is already one of the guys. If you're gonna have a one-dimensional offensive D on this team might as well keep the guy that everyone on the roster loves and actually fits on the left side of the lineup.

100% , no way you let Krug walk and then sign Barrie.

 

[BTO]

I'm guessing he means trades that bring higher cap hits back otherwise it makes no sense. Even then if the cap hit get's wiped out with a trade, I can't wait to see what star we traded for a bunch of meh players.

i.e Pasta for 2 4th line plugs ,a 3rd liner , a tweener middle 6 RW and 7th round pick

Actually, I was just thinking that maybe he means that if they address some of their needs via trade, say getting OEL for half the team lol, then they wouldn't have to be as active on the free-agent front.

That actually makes sense, probably why it never occurred to me!

 

[Gordoff]

Anyway none of that was my main point. My main point was:

why should their level of activity on the free-agent market depend on their ability to make roster moves? They have already have $15+m in cap space, plus a 10% offseason cushion.

It's more double-speak. The excuse making machine is at work at TD Garden. Trying to figure out how they can pre-spin the bullshit moves that they are and aren't going to make. Let the excuses begin!

 

[BTO]

It's more double-speak. The excuse making machine is at work at TD Garden. Trying to figure out how they can pre-spin the bullshit moves that they are and aren't going to make. Let the excuses begin!

Yup, that was my original, and likely still valid, fear.

 

[JOKER 192]

It's more double-speak. The excuse making machine is at work at TD Garden. Trying to figure out how they can pre-spin the bullshit moves that they are and aren't going to make. Let the excuses begin!

I hope your wrong but if you read between the lines ........................yikes.

 

[JOKER 192]

They gotta shit of get off the pot here. Either they are buyers or they are sellers. Don't give me any of that BS we have seen since 2015. Get some legit wingers or go to market. The window is all but closed.