Management Sweeney: "We're Looking to Make Changes" - II

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[The Andrew Peeke Fan]

Not convinced one off-season of tinkering puts you over TBL, in tact as they are, at least. Can't underestimate how much confidence means either, like how much it will mean to that Isles group. Will be a good deal of luck that gets this current group back to the Conference or Cup Final any time in the near future, feels like. Not that that isn't true of any long run in this league, ofc.

I won't be satisfied unless they move out some regulars and bring in more pure skill. Gotta change up the approach/formula a bit and realize that if you do have Tuukka back, you have the best goaltender in the league.

 

[BB88]

Yeah but does the team need more slight two way wings? He is better, obviously, but another guy in the Kase/Bjork mold.

I'm betting after his down year in Nashville he could be had on a bargain contract, and is only 28y.

Ability to score 60+ points with good defense from the wing.
I'd for sure make the call.

But again Hall is priority #1D, then I'd look at the LD market and then how to fit Granlund in possibly.

If Hall fails go for Granlund+ Hoffman, Granlund+ size for top9?

 

[ON3M4N]

I think the Bruins should acquire Tyson Barrie

Its not a terrible idea to kick the tires on, he's a UFA coming off a down year but has shown to be a very good offensive d-man.

Last 3 years
TB - 216 GP / 155 Pts / 67 PPP
TK - 201 GP / 161 Pts / 82 PPP

The difference in their P/GP over 82 games comes out to be a difference of 7 points a year. The PP dependency on production is similar with Krug at 51% of his points coming via the PP and Barrie comes in at 43% coming via the PP.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Its not a terrible idea to kick the tires on, he's a UFA coming off a down year but has shown to be a very good offensive d-man.

Last 3 years
TB - 216 GP / 155 Pts / 67 PPP
TK - 201 GP / 161 Pts / 82 PPP

The difference in their P/GP over 82 games comes out to be a difference of 7 points a year. The PP dependency on production is similar with Krug at 51% of his points coming via the PP and Barrie comes in at 43% coming via the PP.

Yeah, it's definitely the offseason....

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Does Barrie play the left side? He'd only be a replacement option for the 3rd pairing RHD spot for this unit. I guess you have to ask yourself if Barrie comes in on a cheaper 'prove it' deal, is he a better option than Clifton? He'd easily be on a PP unit. I'd say yes, as you have a guy capable of playing up if needed (injury) and a replacement on the PP for Krug. But he is RH so does that affect the PP at all?

 

[ON3M4N]

Yeah, it's definitely the offseason....

Not following you here

 

[ON3M4N]

Does Barrie play the left side? He'd only be a replacement option for the 3rd pairing RHD spot for this unit. I guess you have to ask yourself if Barrie comes in on a cheaper 'prove it' deal, is he a better option than Clifton? He'd easily be on a PP unit. I'd say yes, as you have a guy capable of playing up if needed (injury) and a replacement on the PP for Krug. But he is RH so does that affect the PP at all?

I'm sure it would change the PP a bit going from a LHD to a RHD at the point. I do wonder though, if you're going to run a RHD, why not just have McAvoy be your point man? I get Barrie has the track record of being a PP producer, but I think McAvoy could do some damage on the PP as well given there is more time and space. IDK for me I think it depends on where Barrie wants for a contract. If he was coming in on a 1yr prove it deal then I think its an interesting option

 

[Oates2Neely]

So we are just throwing shiny names up against the wall I see. Barrie? Gross.

The soft Seguin is in the Cup finals. Cam Neely must be in shock. Talent wins.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

So we are just throwing shiny names up against the wall I see. Barrie? Gross.

The soft Seguin is in the Cup finals. Cam Neely must be in shock. Talent wins.

Eh, Neely would rather have stiffs like Beleskey, Hayes, and Ritchie. They're big and they can throw a hit. After all, we know how much Cam LOVES his big guys (with no offensive skill)!

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

So we are just throwing shiny names up against the wall I see. Barrie? Gross.

The soft Seguin is in the Cup finals. Cam Neely must be in shock. Talent wins.

It's the offseason for the Bruins.... This is the time to throw every and all names against the wall and see? Bruins don't come to us for our actual opinion so who cares? It's funny you're saying that Barrie is a "shiny name" and follow up with 'gross' as a way to show you're against him as a player. You don't offer any reason why.

Then contradict yourself with the second take. Talent wins...... Barrie on a 3rd pairing here in Boston? That's a move that makes you a lot better if he's used correctly 5v5 and unleashed on the PP. Barrie has talent. He has a lot of it. Maybe take a look at his production, especially before he got to Toronto. You won't get that kind of production with Barrie playing 5-6 minutes LESS a night but that's what you have in a player. He has 5 seasons of 10+ goals (28 in his last two seasons in Colorado). He is a pointman.

Also, did we watch Tampa Bay throw guys like Bogosian and Schenn out there on the backend. Different style than Barrie but here are two guys who looked very good when playing with good players and not having to be the guy. Their roles were lessened and they were very effective and showed they're still very capable NHL players. Barrie is already better than both, so why couldn't he do that here if used correctly?

 

[Therick67]

I haven't watched every Stars game, but Seguin hasn't been exactly lighting it up. He's got 2 goals in 20 games....

 

[BruinsBtn]

I'm very interested in the price of OEL. The report is that they're determined to trade him but he has an NMC so he can dictate where he goes. I'd imagine Boston would he high on the list so maybe he comes cheap.

The thing is, if he comes they're going to lose a good defenseman in the expansion draft.

 

[ON3M4N]

So we are just throwing shiny names up against the wall I see. Barrie? Gross.

The soft Seguin is in the Cup finals. Cam Neely must be in shock. Talent wins.

Meh Barrie and Krug are similar players in that they are OFD's who are below average defenders.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Yeah, it's definitely the offseason....

right?

"I know, lets replace Krug with a Krug who is just as small, far worse defensively, and at best no better offensively"

 

[NeelyDan]

jesus we get snippy with each other over ridiculously unnecessary stuff, i feel for moderators

 

[SPLBRUIN]

right?

"I know, lets replace Krug with a Krug who is just as small, far worse defensively, and at best no better offensively"

Exactly, want nothing to do with Barrie, he is a very poor man's Krug without Krug's heart and leadership.

 

[kdog82]

Any interest in Shayne Gostisbehere? He could probably be had for next to nothing. 3rd pairing PP Specialist.

 

[member 96824]

Any interest in Shayne Gostisbehere? He could probably be had for next to nothing. 3rd pairing PP Specialist.

Like the player..but not at $4.5M for the next 3 years

 

[kdog82]

Like the player..but not at $4.5M for the next 3 years

Trade him for Moore.

 

[member 96824]

Trade him for Moore.

Moore is our 7th D making $2.75M

Ghost right now is the 7th D man for Philly making 4.5M.

I'm not quite sure how that helps anything.

 

[shoulders7]

right?

"I know, lets replace Krug with a Krug who is just as small, far worse defensively, and at best no better offensively"

I don’t think Tyson Barrie is the direction they should go, but he isn’t “far worse defensively” than Krug. The posters arguing for him are being logical, he is a very similar player to Krug who will cost far far less and maybe allow for a better scoring wing to be acquired with the savings.

 

[The Andrew Peeke Fan]

Any interest in Shayne Gostisbehere? He could probably be had for next to nothing. 3rd pairing PP Specialist.

Meme player, was never anywhere near what he was touted as.

 

[BruinDust]

So we are just throwing shiny names up against the wall I see. Barrie? Gross.

The soft Seguin is in the Cup finals. Cam Neely must be in shock. Talent wins.

I haven't watched every Stars game, but Seguin hasn't been exactly lighting it up. He's got 2 goals in 20 games....

I haven't watch every game either but they did single out Seguin last night during the intermission on HNIC for his blocking shots on the PK and winning puck battles. Seems like he's matured a fair bit as a player while the offense isn't coming he's doing more of the little things. The fact he's even on the PK for Dallas indicated he's a fairly decent two-way player now.

 

[ON3M4N]

right?

"I know, lets replace Krug with a Krug who is just as small, far worse defensively, and at best no better offensively"

I think the huge difference would be a) cost to bring in Barrie and b) he'd be on your 3rd pairing, not your 2nd pairing like Krug.

If Krug leaves for big money and you could bring in Barrie (similar offensive impact) for significantly less then you're not losing offensive production on the back end. With Carlo and McAvoy already holding down your top 2 RHD spots, Barrie slides into the spot that fits him best which (like Krug) is a 3rd pairing PP specialist.