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robertmac43
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So now their goal is to destroy Champions League, Liverpool and Man U can f*** off. Best part of Champions League is when you get Cinderella runs.
And like the last attempt, at least 3 of the big English clubs were not supportive of it, so lets not assume that all 6 are supportive of the idea.
And like the last attempt, at least 3 of the big English clubs were not supportive of it, so lets not assume that all 6 are supportive of the idea.
robertmac43
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Joking sarcasm intended here:
Should Man United in their current state really be a club pushing for this kind of 'Super Premier League'?
Should Man United in their current state really be a club pushing for this kind of 'Super Premier League'?
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Joking sarcasm intended here:
Should Man United in their current state really be a club pushing for this kind of 'Super Premier League'?
Someone has to be the Detroit Lions.
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This idea has always been around and from many Europeans, so it's not like it's a conspiracy by Americans to ruin the English/European game.
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Creating a thing like this is the sort of thing I'd do on a video game when I was a kid
They're the ones in talks to join right now according to the article. And this is on the heels of their Project Big Picture design being shot down a week ago.
Pretty clear at this stage those two ownership groups are willing to go to any lengths to upend the current English football structure to maximize their earnings at the expense of "lesser" clubs. Whether a European superleague has been bandied about for years and whether other English or continental teams are receptive doesn't particularly have bearing on the extent to which those two clubs are leading the charge.
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For those who didn’t read the article
“Real Madrid has been one of the principal architects of the European Premier League's creation, with a plan to get the new competition launched as rapidly as possible.
Key Capital Partners, a Spanish finance house, and Florentino Perez, the veteran Real Madrid president, are also understood to have been driving forces behind the latest project.”
Sky burying the lede of who is really leading this charge. Honestly who could blame the five English teams invited for doing this? It’ll help their clubs out financially. LFC and Utd brought Project Big Picture to the table, it was obviously not well received but at least they are trying. The Premier League is not known for being innovative, certainly not anymore., in regards to changing the status quo. They were the last league to VAR, they were the only major league not to go five subs, and it’s because they are leaning on tradition as a crutch. They need to adapt.
“Real Madrid has been one of the principal architects of the European Premier League's creation, with a plan to get the new competition launched as rapidly as possible.
Key Capital Partners, a Spanish finance house, and Florentino Perez, the veteran Real Madrid president, are also understood to have been driving forces behind the latest project.”
Sky burying the lede of who is really leading this charge. Honestly who could blame the five English teams invited for doing this? It’ll help their clubs out financially. LFC and Utd brought Project Big Picture to the table, it was obviously not well received but at least they are trying. The Premier League is not known for being innovative, certainly not anymore., in regards to changing the status quo. They were the last league to VAR, they were the only major league not to go five subs, and it’s because they are leaning on tradition as a crutch. They need to adapt.
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Were more like the Cowboys. Rich, have a history, and while not quite useless, still have a couple moments that make you think we're turning a corner. Just to go and f*** it all up the week after.
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Perez has wanted this for more than a decade.
I don't think they are burying the lead, Just that Perez and Real should've been included with Liverpool and Man U.
Interesting.
18 clubs only. 5 of them English.
If they did this based of most valuable clubs, this would be the make up of the league.
1. Real Madrid
2. Manchester United FC
3. FC Barcelona
4. FC Bayern Munich
5. Liverpool FC
6. Manchester City FC
7. Chelsea FC
8. Tottenham Hotspur FC
9. Paris Saint-Germain FC
10. Juventus
11. Borussia Dortmund
12. Atletico Madrid
13. Inter Milan
14. FC Schalke 04
15. AS Roma
16. Napoli
17. Olympique Lyonnais
18. Ajax
This would leave the 10th most valuable football club in the world out
10. Arsenal
18. West Ham
19. Leicester City
21. Everton
22. AC Milan
24. Benfica
25. Valencia
Personally, if it was left up to me I would stick with the CL and forget this but!
England (Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool)
Italy (Juventus, AC Milan, Inter Milan)
Holland (Ajax)
Portugal (FC Porto)
France (PSG)
Germany (Bayern, Dortmund, Schalke)
Spain (Ath Madrid, Real Madrid, Barcelona)
18th Team (Galatasaray, Celtic FC, Shakhtar, RB Salzburg, Zenit, Olympiakos or Kiev)
English clubs are a combined value of 8.578 Billion, I wouldn't leave that considering the next league on the list is less than half at 3.938 Billion (La Liga) followed by Germany 3.275B, Italy 1.877B & France 1.278B
If anything the English league should invite a couple of big Scottish clubs into the PL.
18 clubs only. 5 of them English.
If they did this based of most valuable clubs, this would be the make up of the league.
1. Real Madrid
2. Manchester United FC
3. FC Barcelona
4. FC Bayern Munich
5. Liverpool FC
6. Manchester City FC
7. Chelsea FC
8. Tottenham Hotspur FC
9. Paris Saint-Germain FC
10. Juventus
11. Borussia Dortmund
12. Atletico Madrid
13. Inter Milan
14. FC Schalke 04
15. AS Roma
16. Napoli
17. Olympique Lyonnais
18. Ajax
This would leave the 10th most valuable football club in the world out
10. Arsenal
18. West Ham
19. Leicester City
21. Everton
22. AC Milan
24. Benfica
25. Valencia
Personally, if it was left up to me I would stick with the CL and forget this but!
England (Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool)
Italy (Juventus, AC Milan, Inter Milan)
Holland (Ajax)
Portugal (FC Porto)
France (PSG)
Germany (Bayern, Dortmund, Schalke)
Spain (Ath Madrid, Real Madrid, Barcelona)
18th Team (Galatasaray, Celtic FC, Shakhtar, RB Salzburg, Zenit, Olympiakos or Kiev)
English clubs are a combined value of 8.578 Billion, I wouldn't leave that considering the next league on the list is less than half at 3.938 Billion (La Liga) followed by Germany 3.275B, Italy 1.877B & France 1.278B
If anything the English league should invite a couple of big Scottish clubs into the PL.
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They are absolutely burying the lede. They will get more clicks if they throw LFC and Utd in the headline, especially after Project Big Picture
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If you want to argue that the headline should be Two top English club and 1 top Spanish club in bombshell talks...then sure, but lets not act like this is just Perez and Liverpool and Man U are along for the ride.
It's wrong to say it's just the American owners of Liverpool and Man U, but it's also wrong to say this is just Perez's masterplan.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Schalke's going to be in the second division by 2022, and they'd be in the European Super League? I don't think so.
Pavel Buchnevich
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I don't like this idea. What I don't like most is that you can buy your way in, and then you get a spot presumably for many years if not longer. Form of top teams doesn't change a lot, but it changes enough that if we are not seeing the teams change in this tournament based on merit, it's not going to include all the best teams. The Champions League at least accomplishes that. You rarely see the best teams left out of the competition.
I don't even know how the big six English teams will decide which of them gets left out. That would probably be the most interesting part of this.
I also don't understand how and when these games would be played. It seems like they'd be trying to add a lot more games than the Champions League is. Most of the top teams cannot add additional games to what they already play. It would be too many per season.
I don't even know how the big six English teams will decide which of them gets left out. That would probably be the most interesting part of this.
I also don't understand how and when these games would be played. It seems like they'd be trying to add a lot more games than the Champions League is. Most of the top teams cannot add additional games to what they already play. It would be too many per season.
Yanks just can't help themselves. Everything needs to be super this and super that. Way to ruin decades if not a century of tradition.
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"At least they are trying"...to what? Create the optimal environment to make the most amount of money while decreasing the pie for the majority? The implication here that there's some sort of altruistic bent to their designs in the name of restructuring English football to save it is pretty ridiculous.
You can't on the one hand say who can blame these guys for wanting money and then paint that objective (which PBP certainly was) as in the best interest of everyone. Despite the initial headlines, a lot of the subsequent reporting detailed how it wasn't even that attractive a proposition at the L1/L2 level after accounting for the fine print.
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Fair, I just know plenty that genuinely view it as just an American problem.
For me, depending on where Chelsea falls on this, if they make a position, this would be what shakes my fandom. The big clubs already have a stranglehold on their competition, no take them behind the barn and kill them.
If they truly want a NA system where clubs are guaranteed a spot in the top league, then they better be ready to take on all of the aspects of the system, but we know they wouldn't go for that.
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Not to mention these would all be very intense games. There are no easy trips with the hypothetical set up. As a manager how do you select a rotated team when you play these giants each week, while balancing the domestic league.
