Subban or Weber

[habs03]

TBH I’d take Weber this year. He’s been amazing.
I still hate the trade and the long term impact of Weber’s contract though.

How so please...

Edit:
Btw Weber contact is bad for the Preds not the Habs..

He gets paid 3M, 1M, 1M I believe in the last 3 years. If he retires, Nashville gets a 24M cap penalty divided by the years left on the deal. ex retires with 3 years, that's a 7M cap pentatly for the Preds.. 14M for 2 years left, and 24M if its with just 1 year left..

Mtl gets no penalty no matter when he retires, so please don't try to come up with the LTIR excuse.

 

[CupInSIX]

In some alternate universe, there's nothing but polls about Weber vs Blake, Weber vs Chara, Weber vs Godzilla. Where people talk about how good he was most of his career.

The Craig Janney to Subban's Adam Oates. Heck, even Turgeon got out of the shadow of lalalalalaLafontaine.

 

[habs03]

Funny how in todays in-depth analytics, they show you a lot of the details, but ppl are trying to avoid the numbers that show Subban isn't used in a clear cut number 1 Dmen role lol

 

[RickP]

It's kinda convenient to make a poll after Weber just had 4 points and +4 in 2 games, and Subban had none in the last 2 games lol... Remove those 2 games, and the numbers are quite different. That's the thing with small sample size, you have to be careful. In fact, with those stats and that sample size, Jeff Petry is much better than Weber and Subban

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Funny how in todays in-depth analytics, they show you a lot of the details, but ppl are trying to avoid the numbers that show Subban isn't used in a clear cut number 1 Dmen role lol

Of course he isn’t. Have you seen Nashville’s defense compared to Montreal’s? It is probably the best and deepest group in the league.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

It's kinda convenient to make a poll after Weber just had 4 points and +4 in 2 games, and Subban had none in the last 2 games lol... Remove those 2 games, and the numbers are quite different. That's the thing with small sample size, you have to be careful. In fact, with those stats and that sample size, Jeff Petry is much better than Weber and Subban

I dont think anyone looked at what they did in the past 2 games when they put their vote in

 

[Thenameless]

"Right Now" it's Weber. I'm actually pleasantly surprised by his play.

 

[Koivu11]

I hated the trade and still hate it but I’ll admit I’ve been very happy with Weber’s play since coming back from his injury.

 

[sadpanda]

That's the thing, I don't base my opinion on one season. And yes, I watched every Habs game, this season Weber is really good.

Well, you should in this case. The question was who is better right now

 

[ESH]

Sure if you're just looking at raw production... And Webers is pretty damn good...

But factor in how the Habs have gone from among the leagues worst in GAA and SV% to the leagues best- before and after Weber rejoined the club. He's the best defensive player in the game. Eye test... common stats... advanced stats... they all say so.

What advanced stats are those?

 

[seafoam]

Subban is capable of making plays requiring higher skill, but I think Weber plays at a higher level more consistently than Subban.

tldr; Subban's high is higher than Weber's but Weber's low is higher than Subban's.

 

[ole ole]

It's kinda convenient to make a poll after Weber just had 4 points and +4 in 2 games, and Subban had none in the last 2 games lol... Remove those 2 games, and the numbers are quite different. That's the thing with small sample size, you have to be careful. In fact, with those stats and that sample size, Jeff Petry is much better than Weber and Subban

Blame that on Subban not the thread starter.

 

[Peter Puck]

It's kinda convenient to make a poll after Weber just had 4 points and +4 in 2 games, and Subban had none in the last 2 games lol... Remove those 2 games, and the numbers are quite different. That's the thing with small sample size, you have to be careful. In fact, with those stats and that sample size, Jeff Petry is much better than Weber and Subban

I wanted to make the poll after the Habs had played an equal number of games with and without Weber. I missed by one day.

 

[RickP]

I wanted to make the poll after the Habs had played an equal number of games with and without Weber. I missed by one day.

Yeah I was just messing with you, but my point is this is still a pretty small sample size. A couple of great or bad games can change the overall outlook.

 

[Regal]

Yeah I was just messing with you, but my point is this is still a pretty small sample size. A couple of great or bad games can change the overall outlook.

These guys have been in the league for years though. I don't think people are relying too much on their point totals this year to make a decision.

 

[VGK]

Weber as of right now but not for long. Subban for years to come for sure

 

[CanadienShark]

Subban.

 

[habs03]

Of course he isn’t. Have you seen Nashville’s defense compared to Montreal’s? It is probably the best and deepest group in the league.

Makes Weber's number look even better considering he faces the other teams top line everynight unlike Subban.

 

[tony d]

Weber for me. I might be in the minority here but I've always preferred him to Subban.

 

[1dreamof1cup]

Subban quite easily. Hes been better in every seasons since the trade. Its not even close in my book.

 

[Future GOAT]

Weber was better when the trade happened, and he's still better. Once his age catches up to him Subban will move ahead but right now it's still Weber.

 

[Bouboumaster]

It's Subban all day, handsdown

 

[koyvoo]

Weber was better when the trade happened, and he's still better. Once his age catches up to him Subban will move ahead but right now it's still Weber.

I feel one season was in Weber’s favour by a narrow margin, one season was Subban quite convincingly (Weber major injury too), and this season it’s bedn Weber by a significant margin.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I love just reading the responses and results of these polls. At this point in time Subban is vastly overrated and Weber is vastly underrated.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Ask again in 3 years.

So 6 years after the trade, when Subban's current contract is expired? OK.