Subban or Weber

[Peter Puck]

We had this poll before the season and Subban won easily. The thread included the posts:
"Subban easily" and
"Montreal fans just need to let it go at this point... "

Now Weber has played 25 of Montreal's 49 games and we can truely compare them. It really looks like Weber has shored up Montreal's defence.


Montreal without Weber (first 24 games) 11-8-5 and a GAA of 3.38.
Montreal with Weber (latest 25 games) 16-9-0 and a GAA of 2.48.

Subban's stats: 30 games 4 goals, 14 assists, +9. 18 pts for 0.60 pts/game
Weber's stats: 25 games, 7 goals, 9 assists, +12. 16 pts for 0.64 pts/game.

I don't see how anyone can claim Subban easily. Maybe Weber will decline as he is certainly older but I don't see it yet.

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[stopclickbait]

Subban easily, Montreal fans just need to let it go at this point.

 

[Jack Skellington]

Two of my favourite players ever. Weber is probably a little better in a vacuum but it depends what your team looks like. They’re both in the top 5 or so in the league

 

[Soundgarden]

Subban easily, Montreal fans just need to let it go at this point.

I don't know. Subban has not been his best this year...and parts of last year. Yes, Subban is younger, but I think this year Weber has proven he's still got some left in the tank.

As a Pred fan, I'd describe Subban and his game as: Turnover, injury, good play, stupid penalty at the wrong time, good play. His first game as a Predator really summed up his tenure here I think.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Right now, Weber is better. Is any D in the league better than Weber right now?

 

[The Great Weal]

I don't know. Subban has not been his best this year...and parts of last year. Yes, Subban is younger, but I think this year Weber has proven he's still got some left in the tank.

As a Pred fan, I'd describe Subban and his game as: Turnover, injury, good play, stupid penalty at the wrong time, good play. His first game as a Predator really summed up his tenure here I think.

If you think Subban is injury prone, what about Weber who missed a whole year?

 

[Soundgarden]

If you think Subban is injury prone, what about Weber who missed a whole year?

I wasn't comparing him with Weber, I was describing Subban's time in Nashville. He has been a slow, injured turnover machine who takes untimely penalties and has moments of absurd brilliance and elite defense.

 

[rent free]

Subban is definitely better. Habs took a big L on this trade.

 

[ole ole]

Close but Weber is proving he still has it. I would guess that in the near future [a few season] Subban will take over.

 

[habs03]

This is there 3rd season with their new teams, and Weber has been better 2/3 out of those years. And this was suppose to be Subban prime years, 27-30, he'll be 30 this summer per the fans lol

IMO there fairly even, just different styles.

But 1 thing that is a fact since the trade. Weber puts those numbers as the clear number 1 D-men on the Habs.

Subban in 3 seasons with the Preds, has never lead the team in TOI per game /ES TOI/G, SH/TOI/G. These are facts, so please check yourself before you telling me, no Subban is their number 1 dmen...

The Preds do use a 1A/1B pairing, so Subban does not go up vs other teams top lines ever night like other number 1 dmen, and in most cases its Josi-Ellis that get the tougher match up. Only thing its Subban pair its when its a heavy line, ex Ovie line..

Whenever the Preds play the Oilers, its Josi-Ellis vs McDavid, when they play Pitts, its Josi-Ellis vs Crosby..

I mean its 100% the smartest thing to do for the Preds team, play to your strengths, but the fact is it gives Subban easier matches up than other guys other the league.

 

[ImpartialNHLfan]

Ask again in 3 years.

 

[ottawa]

King Subban isn't playing as good as he was the previous years otherwise it would be him easily, so I'll have to give it to Weber (who is also having a strong year).

The next 6-9 years should be a no-brainer though.

 

[koyvoo]

Weber has definitely significantly been better this season.

Some people jump to fast at the opportunity to show that they actually don’t watch hockey games.

 

[ijif]

If right now is defined as this season, I'll take Weber.
If right now is defined as this season and recent history, I'll take Subban.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Right now, Weber is better. Is any D in the league better than Weber right now?

Yes at least a dozen or so pretty easily

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Yes at least a dozen or so pretty easily

Sure if you're just looking at raw production... And Webers is pretty damn good...

But factor in how the Habs have gone from among the leagues worst in GAA and SV% to the leagues best- before and after Weber rejoined the club. He's the best defensive player in the game. Eye test... common stats... advanced stats... they all say so.

 

[sadpanda]

Weber now.

Why is Subban winning this?

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Weber now.

Why is Subban winning this?

Maybe because he's better...

 

[dm1371]

different type of players it's hard to compare even if both are right handed d-men. but Subban brings more that's for sure

 

[authentic]

I think overall Subban is better, but it's not by much and he isn't currently better this season. It is funny to see people who still think Montreal got hosed on this trade.

 

[sadpanda]

Maybe because he's better...

Have you watched them this season?

 

[WetcoastOrca]

TBH I’d take Weber this year. He’s been amazing.
I still hate the trade and the long term impact of Weber’s contract though.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Dead even. Weber gets underrated these days.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Subban is having a bit of a down year, but he’s been better than Weber for a long time. Weber has been better this season, but there’s still 30 games to go and Subban usually finishes strong.

I voted for Subban due to being better than Weber since 2012-13, and will likely continue to be better.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Have you watched them this season?

That's the thing, I don't base my opinion on one season. And yes, I watched every Habs game, this season Weber is really good.