If Subban ends up going to a fun team, it would be hard not to cheer for them.
Subban Contract Talk VIII - Always darkest before the dawn...?
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If Subban ends up going to a fun team, it would be hard not to cheer for them.
Seb
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Fun team eh? Feels like we haven't had one in a long time.
Jacques Martin and Michel Therrien are killing it
WhiskeySeven*
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It didn't have to get to this point had Bergevin not shoved a bridge-deal down his throat. Now we'll have Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Tinordi and Beaulieu ... AND SUBBAN to sign at the same time.
Other teams have signed players to huge contracts too, it's not that complicated for a team with supposedly deep pockets, and history doesn't apply to a rapidly inflating dollar amount. Apples and oranges indeed.
Molson will charge you 13$ a beer and won't pay Subban what he's worth.
Smokey Thompson
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I just don't understand your logic then. You think the Habs should have selected higher salaried players, when that would increase the floor of the reward, so as to not "nickel-and-dime" him? Do you think that PK should have used lower salaried comparables so as to not be "greedy"?
Kobe Armstrong
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I don't get this at all. I cheer for the Habs, not just for Subban. If he leaves I'll be ****ing pissed but I'll still be cheering for Price, Pacioretty, Gallagher, Galchenyuk, etc.
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Bergevin and the management team better think twice on this one. Let's say the arbitrator rules $ 7.8 million in Year 1 and he walks in Year 2. Who's going to take his minutes then?
Markov won't last for three years and Beaulieu isn't ready to take a top role because of his defensive lapses. We'll give Emelin the benefit of doubt. Tinordi isn't there yet. Weaver and Gilbert most likely will be gone. Pateryn, Dietz, Ellis, Thrower ???? Oh yeah, I forgot the secret weapon from Sweden Magnus Nygren is going to take his minutes.
You would think with this many ex dmen in management, they would be able to give him credit.
Sad day for PK fans. I guess I'll have to watch him somewhere else.
Bergevin and the management team better think twice on this one. Let's say the arbitrator rules $ 7.8 million in Year 1 and he walks in Year 2. Who's going to take his minutes then?
Markov won't last for three years and Beaulieu isn't ready to take a top role because of his defensive lapses. We'll give Emelin the benefit of doubt. Tinordi isn't there yet. Weaver and Gilbert most likely will be gone. Pateryn, Dietz, Ellis, Thrower ???? Oh yeah, I forgot the secret weapon from Sweden Magnus Nygren is going to take his minutes.
You would think with this many ex dmen in management, they would be able to give him credit.
Sad day for PK fans. I guess I'll have to watch him somewhere else.
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That's exactly what I was thinking since, well, since last summer. They don't like Subban that much. They're not ready to give him 8 years at 8-9M.
And yes, this is concerning.
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Leon Lucius Black
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Even if you don't love the guy you can easily trade him for a great return at that contract. Just beyond ridiculous how badly Bergevin has ****ed this up.
Frankenheimer
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I share your anger, just saying that extending Desharnais or Emelin has nothing to do with this situation. It's a unique situation, to the Canadiens at least.
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Yes, very comparable situations. Remember when DD got an 8 year extension north of 8M per year? Yeah, me too, fun times.
Seb
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In the footage of the first season of 24/7, I got told Bergevin was mad and started swearing and throwing things all the way around the room he was in and calling Subban names after a game he made a costly mistake. Of course this scene didn't make the cut.
Not sure what it really means, but knowing how the negotiations are going right now i'd says it's concerning.
You fail to recognize that all along some of us have said that MB has no idea the player Subban is. Today is proof that he has no idea how to handle a superstar.
The bridge contract was bad from day 1. Sure if you're an optimist, you could put a positive spin on it. Unfortunately some of us are realist and saw the opportunity to put the best piece, for a very favorable deal, in our back pocket for years and we failed to so. Today was paramount in the evaluation of the bridge deal, and as I thought all along, it was a huge mistake.
Well, it's evident that this organization is still run by idiots if they won't give their god damn franchise defenseman an 8 year deal.
I hated the bridge deal before and I still do, even more now. This is just ****ing terrible and you can't help but feel like Subban's time on the team is winding down.
If this next contract isn't a long term deal...well, ****.
I hated the bridge deal before and I still do, even more now. This is just ****ing terrible and you can't help but feel like Subban's time on the team is winding down.
If this next contract isn't a long term deal...well, ****.
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Agreed. It's not like this is New York, LA or Pittsburgh where players want to come play. It's a place that is known for chewing up players. a city where most players refuse to come to. Habs have not had anyone like PK for so long. They finally get a guy like him....a guy that actually wants to play in Montreal...and then they nickel and dime him. I'm all for having a plan and wanting to keep salaries manageable but certain players should have different rules. You're not going to treat a PK like you treat a fringe 4th liner. This should have NEVER gotten to this point no matter which side of the fence you stand on.
The organization still doesn't get it. Still making the same ****ing mistakes they've been making the last decade now. New faces, same result.
Evecey
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This is what is worrying me the most in this.
It seems we've been so long without an impact / franchise type player, the organization has forgotten how to treat one...or worse, they are using the same "how to treat your franchise player for dummies" manual they used in 1995.
You would think with this many ex dmen in management, they would be able to give him credit.
Well, maybe that's the problem right there. Some egos are getting in the way. Some former, very average dmen saying "Back in the days bla bla bla".
I don't know. Something seems off with the whole thing and I doubt it's because Subban is asking for 12M a year.
Cole Caulifield
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3.5M is not significant at all for a 55-60 pts center.
I'd say that DD is paid fairly, but because of the pts he put up, he had the potential to get even more quite easily. When MB signed him, DD had had a really really good month with Pacioretty and if he had finished the season like that... we might have had to pay more than 3.5M. It was a gamble at the time. One I'm sure MB regretted a little when DD was struggling big time, but one i'm sure he's happy with right now.
And WHAT ABOUT EMELIN ??? Does he speak french ? He didn't have fancy offensive numbers. Couldn't we have played hard ball with him ?
Personally I think neither Emelin or DD are overpaid. I like both players. The language issue is BS and needs to be dropped like yesterday, so is the race issue. This is something else. What ? I don't know.
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