LeBrun: STL, PIT have talked to Carolina about Skinner

[DatDude44]

Skilled 2nd line but too young, small, & soft for playoff hockey.

I don’t disagree, but just sayin why it’s more sensible than u thought

 

[stl76]

Is Skinner any better than a healthy FAbbri?

I think he has a better shot and is a better skater than Fabbri. Healthy Fabbri was a great skater, and may have more straight line speed than Skinner, but Skinner's edge work is elite. Skinner would be an upgrade on health Fabbri IMO.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

If Kessel leaves, I think Skinner would be too good of a fit in Pittsburgh as he knows Rutherford and would look good playing next to Crosby or Malkin.

But don't see Kessel going to Carolina. I'm saying, Kessel going to Detroit then Detroit trading Kessel at the 2019 deadline to a contender is the move to make.

 

[thedustman]

But the BBQ hot dogs . . . not so much.

well i heard in pittsburgh they put lettuce and cole slaw and fries all over everything and it becomes delicious, so if Jeff Skinner went there he he wouldn't be getting any skinnier.

Sheesh, if he comes to STL might as well change his name to Jeff Slinger.

 

[domaug]

If Kessel leaves, I think Skinner would be too good of a fit in Pittsburgh as he knows Rutherford and would look good playing next to Crosby or Malkin.

But don't see Kessel going to Carolina. I'm saying, Kessel going to Detroit then Detroit trading Kessel at the 2019 deadline to a contender is the move to make.

and what does Detroit have that would land Kessel?

 

[Negan4Coach]

We shouldn't trade Skinner (who replaces 30 goals on a non goal scoring team?) and if we do for the love of Christ not within the division!

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

and what does Detroit have that would land Kessel?

So the trade would work as Kessel's contract would go entirely to Detroit, Detroit keeps him till the deadline and retains half of it.

But say Anthanasiou, Mantha and Helm. Something around there.

 

[domaug]

So the trade would work as Kessel's contract would go entirely to Detroit, Detroit keeps him till the deadline and retains half of it.

But say Anthanasiou, Mantha and Helm. Something around there.

hmm... not sure if those pieces fit for Pittsburgh's lineup tbh

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Is Skinner any better than a healthy FAbbri?

Skinner score 30+ goals 3 times with a high of 37 last year.
Skinner averages 29 goals/ 82 games thru his career.
Since joining the league, skinner is 10th in ES goals scored in all of the NHL.
Skinners worst season ever is 18 goals, Fabbris best season ever is 18 goals.

So yes, Skinner is better than Fabbri.

 

[Empoleon8771]

well i heard in pittsburgh they put lettuce and cole slaw and fries all over everything and it becomes delicious, so if Jeff Skinner went there he he wouldn't be getting any skinnier.

Sheesh, if he comes to STL might as well change his name to Jeff Slinger.

Pittsburgh putting lettuce on everything is news to me, and I live in Pittsburgh

Coleslaw and fries are true for Primanti's (which is overrated as ****), I think sauerkraut is more popular as heavily used toppings than lettuce in Pittsburgh.

 

[Mike Liut]

Skinner score 30+ goals 3 times with a high of 37 last year.
Skinner averages 29 goals/ 82 games thru his career.
Since joining the league, skinner is 10th in ES goals scored in all of the NHL.
Skinners worst season ever is 18 goals, Fabbris best season ever is 18 goals.

So yes, Skinner is better than Fabbri.

Fabbri has only played one full season. He put up 18g at 19 years old. He’s easily a 25g scorer when healthy. But after 2 ACL’s, im really not sure what he is now. But he was on his way to becoming a hell of a player.

 

[NotOpie]

Fabbri has only played one full season. He put up 18g at 19 years old. He’s easily a 25g scorer when healthy. But after 2 ACL’s, im really not sure what he is now. But he was on his way to becoming a hell of a player.

And Jeff Skinner put up 31 goals and won the Calder as an 18 year old...but after a couple of concussions, consensus opinion had him one hit away from eating through a straw....until he had 2 more 30 goal seasons. You never know how guys recover.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Fabbri has only played one full season. He put up 18g at 19 years old. He’s easily a 25g scorer when healthy. But after 2 ACL’s, im really not sure what he is now. But he was on his way to becoming a hell of a player.

Great, he’s still not at Skinners level.

 

[stl76]

Great, he’s still not at Skinners level.

You've done your best to make that abundantly clear, thanks.

Nobody is saying Skinner is not a great player. You seem borderline offended by the honest question of if he is an upgrade to another very good player lol.

 

[Syckle78]

So the trade would work as Kessel's contract would go entirely to Detroit, Detroit keeps him till the deadline and retains half of it.

But say Anthanasiou, Mantha and Helm. Something around there.

Why would Detroit do that? We're spending all that money/cap to not get back close to that value?

 

[Kasperi kapanen]

Rust+Jarry+2019 2nd

 

[CaliforniaBlues310]

One of Fabbri or Steen would be getting traded in this deal, or another deal, for it to make sense for STL. I’d love Skinner though.

Fabbri/Steen-TBA-Tarasenko
Schwartz-Schenn-Kyrou/Tage
Skinner-Thomas-Berglund
Jaskin-Barbashev-Soshnikov

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

You've done your best to make that abundantly clear, thanks.

Nobody is saying Skinner is not a great player. You seem borderline offended by the honest question of if he is an upgrade to another very good player lol.

Lol, What? Not offended in the least. Just stating that he’s an upgrade and providing facts to back my assertions up. I made 2 whole posts on the topic. Not sure what prompted you to get all snarky about it, but whatever. Carry on.

 

[domaug]

Rust+Jarry+2019 2nd

I'm not a big fan of Skinner but I'm not sure why Carolina would do that

 

[tarheelhockey]

You've done your best to make that abundantly clear, thanks.

Nobody is saying Skinner is not a great player. You seem borderline offended by the honest question of if he is an upgrade to another very good player lol.

The question itself is a bit like asking whether Kessel is even an upgrade on a healthy Burakovski.

Answer is a very hard “yes” and move on.

 

[bleedblue1223]

What is Carolina looking for?

 

[GoldiFox]

What is Carolina looking for?

#1C and #1G. Elite scoring talent. They need to find their Brayden Schenn deal.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

What is Carolina looking for?

The Canes biggest needs are 1C, 1G, and goal scoring, which some will say, "why trade skinner then?". For 1 year of Skinner the Canes aren't getting a 1C nor a real 1G nor do I think it's likely any Skinner trade would bring back an equal goal scorer.

I think the Canes are looking to move Skinner for a couple reasons.
1) He's a UFA in 1 year and they likely don't want to pay him the "Evander Kane" type contract he'll probably demand.
2) He's the longest tenured Cane and they are looking to change things up from a culture standpoint. Not saying that's a good reason to move him, but it's a reason they (Dundon/Waddell) have stated.
3) While he is an elite goal scorer, he's not a great 2 way player. That can work on some teams where they have depth and good goaltending, but isn't ideal on a team like Carolina.
4) Maybe (my speculation) is that Skinner is tired of losing as well and may want to move on.

I think what he'll "probably" return is a mid-late 1st round pick and a prospect/young player (similar to a deadline deal). I think the Canes would prefer a similar age player that maybe won't score as much as Skinner, but plays a different style game, but I don't think that's easy to find.

 

[Em etah Eh]

#1C and #1G. Elite scoring talent. They need to find their Brayden Schenn deal.

Brayden Schenn went for two firsts and a cap dump, so I don't know that a team in similar position to Philly last year, would want to trade their "Brayden Schenn" for one year of Skinner. Sounds like it would need to be a 3 way, where Skinner goes for futures, and something based around those futures go to the team with the "Schenn".

 

[bleedblue1223]

Ok, rephrase, what's the positional preference of the prospect in a proposed deal? Center or does it matter?