Player Discussion: Steven Stamkos - Part 9: 500 Goals & 1,100 Points and counting Edition

[TheDaysOf 04]

Question: “Jon, there’s going to be a lot of conversation about the future of Steven Stamkos. What can you say about your captain and if you can imagine him not wearing a Lightning?”

Cooper: “I don’t know if there will be much conversation. I hope not anyway. He belongs here. We know it. He knows it. But, again, this is two seconds after a game. But he and I have grown up together. He’s a heck of a player. But he’s also, I suppose, in control of his own destiny. I don’t know what’s going to happen. He feels like a Bolt for life, but only he and Julien can answer that one.”

 

[Stammertime91]

There are two guys that should be lifers in this organization and that's Hedman and Stamkos. Vinny's play fell off and that albatross contract made that a no brainer. MSL wanting out or the tension with him and SY wrote the ending there. As for 91 and 77, I don't know how you move on from either.

I will be royally pissed if Brisebois does some low ass offer like here's "X" amount, take it or leave it, and we roll into next year with dead weight but minus 91. I will absolutely be on the fire JBB bandwagon if he keeps plugs like Jeannot and Sheary around but stiffs 91. Stammer is only going to decline, but 40 goals at 34 and a left threat on the PP is like be careful what you wish for thinking "muh depth" or "muh this is a business."

 

[Outl4w]

There are two guys that should be lifers in this organization and that's Hedman and Stamkos. Vinny's play fell off and that albatross contract made that a no brainer. MSL wanting out or the tension with him and SY wrote the ending there. As for 91 and 77, I don't know how you move on from either.

I will be royally pissed if Brisebois does some low ass offer like here's "X" amount, take it or leave it, and we roll into next year with dead weight but minus 91. I will absolutely be on the fire JBB bandwagon if he keeps plugs like Jeannot and Sheary around but stiffs 91. Stammer is only going to decline, but 40 goals at 34 and a left threat on the PP is like be careful what you wish for thinking "muh depth" or "muh this is a business."

Hedman, Stamkos, and Kucherov are the three lifers. Kucherov really could teach the young kid some offensive tricks in the future.
If he dont have Stamkos on the team, but keep Sheary and Jeannot I not supporting the lightning with my dollars anymore.

 

[JoVel]

Hedman, Stamkos, and Kucherov are the three lifers. Kucherov really could teach the young kid some offensive tricks in the future.
If he dont have Stamkos on the team, but keep Sheary and Jeannot I not supporting the lightning with my dollars anymore.

I don't know, I feel Kucherov is the guy that could potentially want out in the future. He doesn't feel like the kind of a guy who'd be happy to stay around, playing meaningless hockey in the middle of our rebuild. I think he will be chasing more Cups in the later years of his career. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

 

[Stammertime91]

Hedman, Stamkos, and Kucherov are the three lifers. Kucherov really could teach the young kid some offensive tricks in the future.
If he dont have Stamkos on the team, but keep Sheary and Jeannot I not supporting the lightning with my dollars anymore.

What Jovel said. I can see Kuch leaving or requesting a trade in the future if we were ad for a couple years.

I don't know, I feel Kucherov is the guy that could potentially want out in the future. He doesn't feel like the kind of a guy who'd be happy to stay around, playing meaningless hockey in the middle of our rebuild. I think he will be chasing more Cups in the later years of his career. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

 

[The Gongshow]

Get it done, JBB.

 

[These Are The Days]

Screw it. Start the bidding at $7 million AAV

 

[TheSchmidt]

I can’t imagine how bad this team will be without him if they let him go. Unless they use every penny on building a top 7 defensive core

Already a middling 5v5 team that is reliant on the powerplay. How bad would this powerplay be without him?

 

[Hockeyville USA]

I can’t imagine how bad this team will be without him if they let him go. Unless they use every penny on building a top 7 defensive core

Already a middling 5v5 team that is reliant on the powerplay. How bad would this powerplay be without him?

A good powerplay coach could tweak some things with Hagel on PP1 and probably make it a 17-20% PP, but that's still an 8-10% drop which would definitely mean no playoffs (unless 5v5 somehow magically improves by a ton)

 

[Soul Assumption]

How bad would this powerplay be without him?

I think Point could replace him actually.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

I think Point could replace him actually.

He's already on the ice

 

[Soul Assumption]

He's already on the ice

I mean he can play one timer option. Hagel will play the bumper position.

 

[Stammertime91]

I mean he can play one timer option. Hagel will play the bumper position.

There's a gulf of difference between technique, timing, and shot power between where 21 stands and 91 stands on the PP. Point has given 0 indications he can nail one timers. He's got a snapshot release but he never hammers a one timer. I legit cannot recall one in his career. He is prone to catching the puck before shooting. That's a sign that a player is not apt at hitting a one timer. Stamkos might miss more nowadays than when he was young, but he still connects. There's no right handed shot on the team capable of just saying oh hey I'm an NHLer I'll play that part.

If you move Point, there's no replacement for him either. Theres no right handed shot. Who goes there, Glendening? Lol. All those things matter. We wouldn't dare put a lefty because it would render Kucherov useless on the right side.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

There's a gulf of difference between technique, timing, and shot power between where 21 stands and 91 stands on the PP. Point has given 0 indications he can nail one timers. He's got a snapshot release but he never hammers a one timer. I legit cannot recall one in his career. He is prone to catching the puck before shooting. That's a sign that a player is not apt at hitting a one timer. Stamkos might miss more nowadays than when he was young, but he still connects. There's no right handed shot on the team capable of just saying oh hey I'm an NHLer I'll play that part.

If you move Point, there's no replacement for him either. Theres no right handed shot. Who goes there, Glendening? Lol. All those things matter. We wouldn't dare put a lefty because it would render Kucherov useless on the right side.

Correct.

The answer is: we shouldn't f*** with it.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Love how Stammer stays on and waits for everyone to leave and give them a tap. Class act.

 

[Peacefool]

I was chearing and watching Lightning from 2017 or 2018,I never saw Stammer played as good as passioned at play offs like this series, he deserves to stay, true captain, give him 7 or 8,5 mil we cant let him go

 

[These Are The Days]

JFBB has already reached out to Stamkos' agent and used the words "very hopeful"

Tampa Bay Lightning GM Julien BriseBois 'very hopeful' of re-signing Stamkos | TSN

Tampa Bay Lightning general manager Julien BriseBois is “very hopeful” to re-sign captain Steven Stamkos as he approaches unrestricted free agency this summer.

www.tsn.ca

Yeah. I think we're good. We just need to let next year play out and then get as much Syracuse talent as possible up here some time in 2025.

We can probably "sort of" reload but it won't be like we did in 2017

 

[The Gongshow]

 

[CupsOverCash]

 

[These Are The Days]

+1

This is getting done. JFBB will probably wait several more weeks for what the actual cap number is going to be and submit the retirement contract from there. If I had to guess, he will do a little better than what Malkin got in Pittsburgh and it'll be like 4 years and a $7 million AAV -both a slight discount for the Lightning but also not terrible for Stamkos

Yeah, his number will start with a 7. I'm good with that. Just get it done. We've had to pay the piper for these Cups these last 2 years but there is at least a shred of promise waiting for us in Syracuse and in Michigan State

 

[The Gongshow]

I think Stammer understands it takes discounts to make a better team...but doesn't say he's necessarily wanting to take one this time

That quote says he knows he's gotta take one to stick around though.

The JBB quote was good to see though, he knows the importance of Stammer and sees the production, didn't mention anything of needing discount so this should hopefully result in there not being any dumb low-ball offers that sour/anger Stammer.

 

[These Are The Days]

I'll bet Hedman probably re-signs the same day Stamkos does exactly like 8 years ago

 

[Stammertime91]

I'll bet Hedman probably re-signs the same day Stamkos does exactly like 8 years ago

I figured if they've already talked to Hedman about it, they'll do them the same day again.

This was a promising development.

 

[Maelmoor]

I think a vast majority would love to see Stammer stay, as long as the contract is decent, hopefully they can find a solution and he is willing to go down a bit.

 

[Sky04]

I'll bet Hedman probably re-signs the same day Stamkos does exactly like 8 years ago

9.1M and 7.7M extensions incoming.