Stastny in need of a shooter?

[Note Worthy]

I somewhat remember that and also remember hearing he meant to hit the glass (thought I remember the coach saying something about that too). Either way, yeah it was pretty stupid.

Backes and Tarasenko recently got into a fight at practice too, miswell cut them for an incident.

Two completely different things with completely different situations that shouldn't be compared.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

I somewhat remember that and also remember hearing he meant to hit the glass (thought I remember the coach saying something about that too). Either way, yeah it was pretty stupid.

Backes and Tarasenko recently got into a fight at practice too, miswell cut them for an incident.

There's a difference between frustrations boiling over in a practice between teammates and being a total diva. Radulov is the latter. I want nothing to do with a guy like that, but I also happen to believe that team chemistry plays a huge role.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Guys, lets be serious though, Radulov would become a perfect citizen after 5 minutes around Tarasenko. The governments of the U.S. and Russia need to hire Tarasenko to get Obama and Putin as bff's.

But, seriously, I wouldn't want Radulov, but I do think Army can take some risks not only in the draft with Russians, but on the pro level with Russians. I think Tarasenko has that type of leadership mentality that would get the other Russians to buy-in and follow him. He'd be a tremendous role model for a guy like Yakupov, not saying he should be a target, just using him as an example.

Maybe if Semin was on a much shorter contract, Army could take a risk on him.

 

[izzy]

Guys, lets be serious though, Radulov would become a perfect citizen after 5 minutes around Tarasenko. The governments of the U.S. and Russia need to hire Tarasenko to get Obama and Putin as bff's.

But, seriously, I wouldn't want Radulov, but I do think Army can take some risks not only in the draft with Russians, but on the pro level with Russians. I think Tarasenko has that type of leadership mentality that would get the other Russians to buy-in and follow him. He'd be a tremendous role model for a guy like Yakupov, not saying he should be a target, just using him as an example.

Maybe if Semin was on a much shorter contract, Army could take a risk on him.

Maybe if Carolina took some of the hit on it. Would depend on how much Tarasenko/Jackman are willing to sign for though.

I also don't really take into consideration what you guys think of Radulovs attitude problems since you have no real clue if they exist or not. He'd be a top 10, maybe 5 in his position and at a low price you can't pass him up.

 

[bleedblue1223]

For what he'd cost salary wise, it just wouldn't be worth it since Tarasenko will cost 6-7, and Schwartz will get his extension soon after.

 

[STLBloosiers]

tell me how much better these lines look without berglund..


realistically….

Steen-Backes-Oshie
Schwartz-Lehtera-Tarasenko
Lindstrom/Paajarvi-Stastny-Rattie
4th line

 

[KirkOut]

tell me how much better these lines look without berglund..


realistically….

Steen-Backes-Oshie
Schwartz-Lehtera-Tarasenko
Lindstrom/Paajarvi-Stastny-Rattie
4th line

They certainly look worse than what we have now

 

[542365]

tell me how much better these lines look without berglund..


realistically….

Steen-Backes-Oshie
Schwartz-Lehtera-Tarasenko
Lindstrom/Paajarvi-Stastny-Rattie
4th line

They look decidedly worse than our current lines.

 

[Note Worthy]

Maybe if Carolina took some of the hit on it. Would depend on how much Tarasenko/Jackman are willing to sign for though.

I also don't really take into consideration what you guys think of Radulovs attitude problems since you have no real clue if they exist or not. He'd be a top 10, maybe 5 in his position and at a low price you can't pass him up.

We do, though. There's documentation of it. It's not like all of us got together on here and decided to try and fool you.

 

[2 Minute Minor]

tell me how much better these lines look without berglund..


realistically….

Steen-Backes-Oshie
Schwartz-Lehtera-Tarasenko
Lindstrom/Paajarvi-Stastny-Rattie
4th line

Huh? So instead of having to play one struggling player on the 3rd line (Paajarvi/Lindstrom), now we play one and an AHLer who isn't ready on the opposite wing? Poor Stastny will feel like Hitchcock hates him. Have you not been watching the last handful of games, where Berglund has played very well and is unlucky not to have a couple more goals?

 

[bleedblue1223]

And to add on to Berglund's posts and near-goals, he also has 5 points in his last 8 games, a 50 point pace. If he starts to gain chemistry with Stastny, he's worth keeping until the draft.

 

[izzy]

We do, though. There's documentation of it. It's not like all of us got together on here and decided to try and fool you.

okay

 

[Note Worthy]

okay

Did you ignore the 'documentation' part? It's public knowledge.

I guess you just chose to ignore that or something...? I'm not sure...

 

[izzy]

Did you ignore the 'documentation' part? It's public knowledge.

I guess you just chose to ignore that or something...? I'm not sure...

I didn't choose to ignore it. Please, provide me with all this information

 

[Note Worthy]

I didn't choose to ignore it. Please, provide me with all this information

I was under the impression that everyone has access to Google but here you go...

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/26/former-predator-radulov-stripped-of-captaincy-in-khl/

This one goes a little deeper

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/khl130826.html

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/spor...radulov-andrei-kostitsyn-suspended/54660900/1

 

[izzy]

I was under the impression that everyone has access to Google but here you go...

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/26/former-predator-radulov-stripped-of-captaincy-in-khl/

This one goes a little deeper

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/khl130826.html

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/spor...radulov-andrei-kostitsyn-suspended/54660900/1

Thornton and Marleau had their "C" removed.

They were eating, not drinking. Members of the media saw them out past curfew and it got reported to Trotz and they were sat the game AFTER the incident. When Trotz checked the security logs they realized they were back around 1AM when the curfew was 12AM. I don't care if a grown man goes out for dinner at 12, sorry.

 

[Note Worthy]

Thornton and Marleau had their "C" removed.

They were eating, not drinking. Members of the media saw them out past curfew and it got reported to Trotz and they were sat the game AFTER the incident. When Trotz checked the security logs they realized they were back around 1AM when the curfew was 12AM. I don't care if a grown man goes out for dinner at 12, sorry.

The point is he lacks the discipline to follow protocol. It doesn't matter if you personally have a problem with someone eating at 12am or not. The team rule is you have to be in by 12am and that's where it ends. He's obviously too immature or feels the rules don't apply to him. I think it's a little of both.

You're right about other players getting their C's removed but I don't recall the other two losing their's for "undisclosed discipline and off-ice problems".

We may just have to agree to disagree here.

 

[542365]

Thornton and Marleau had their "C" removed.

They were eating, not drinking. Members of the media saw them out past curfew and it got reported to Trotz and they were sat the game AFTER the incident. When Trotz checked the security logs they realized they were back around 1AM when the curfew was 12AM. I don't care if a grown man goes out for dinner at 12, sorry.

Blatantly disregarding team rules does not say character issue? Regardless what they were doing(and I think you're pretty naive if you think they were just having a quiet dinner past midnight ) Having your captaincy removed due to off ice issues doesn't say character issues? Equating this to Thornton and Marleau is absurd, but you already know that, just like you know equating hitting a coach with a stick is the same as a scuffle in practice.

He's a punk. He's a very talented punk. That's what he is. There is absolutely no reason to bring a cancer into the room. He's not good enough to justify being a brat.

 

[izzy]

The point is he lacks the discipline to follow protocol. It doesn't matter if you personally have a problem with someone eating at 12am or not. The team rule is you have to be in by 12am and that's where it ends. He's obviously too immature or feels the rules don't apply to him. I think it's a little of both.

You're right about other players getting their C's removed but I don't recall the other two losing their's for "undisclosed discipline and off-ice problems".

We may just have to agree to disagree here.

Don't know the real reasoning.

Blatantly disregarding team rules does not say character issue? Regardless what they were doing(and I think you're pretty naive if you think they were just having a quiet dinner past midnight ) Having your captaincy removed due to off ice issues doesn't say character issues? Equating this to Thornton and Marleau is absurd, but you already know that, just like you know equating hitting a coach with a stick is the same as a scuffle in practice.

He's a punk. He's a very talented punk. That's what he is. There is absolutely no reason to bring a cancer into the room. He's not good enough to justify being a brat.

He is IMO

 

[STLBloosiers]

God berglund is awful. Literally getting outplayed by Jaskin

 

[Vladys Gumption]

God berglund is awful. Literally getting outplayed by Jaskin

Berglund had an excellent game last night...
And that's a trend that's been going on for a couple weeks.

 

[2 Minute Minor]

God berglund is awful. Literally getting outplayed by Jaskin

Jaskin had a good game. It was great to see. He outplayed a few players last night (I'd argue Oshie was on that list, too.) But Berglund has been trending up in his effectiveness and there is plenty of reason for growing optimism about his fit with Stastny on that line. Your post is hard to reconcile with what I've seen the past several games.

 

[AmazingLarry]

God berglund is awful. Literally getting outplayed by Jaskin

I like Berglund. He's been good for a while now. Don't think he'll be here next year but for right now he and Jaskin look real good as Stastny's wings.

 

[carter333167]

IMO, Armstrong will ultimately consider trading any number of players including Steen, Backes, Oshie, Berglund and/or a few others to accomplish two goals:

1. Clear space for salary demands of Tank and Schwartz
2. get a sniper to play with Stastny.
3. possibly swap some defensive pieces to give it a different character

The only reason I think this analysis changes is if for some reason he works out a trade of Stastny or he simply can't get fair value for these players.

Put another way, the only players who I would consider completely safe from a trade at this point are the STL line. I feel the Blues are very close, but not quite there, to being able to consistently beat the Kings and Hawks. I have a feeling Armstrong sees it the same way.

 

[digitaljohn]

Just an odd situation for him, IMO, to get a big contract like that and then immediately get a substantial reduction in minutes and line quality.

Heh, don't know how I got here, thought this was general talk. Well, I kind of like the Blues and they aren't in the Wings division anymore.. go Blues.