Discussion in 'Dallas Stars' started by Stars99Lobo37, Dec 29, 2010.
WTF a NTC?!
With the ownership situation as such how are they able to sign him, or anybody, to a 6 year contract? Wild times.
Way too long. Now if they can do that with Daley, they better sign Richards to at least 6 years if that's what he wants.
Daley gets 6 years and a bit more than 3 a year...PLUS no trade clause...really.
So much for conserving money. Richards better get what he asks for.
At least this shows that Nieuwy isn't afraid to throw some money around, but just.....take care of those who truly matter, Joe.
If he re-ups Krys Barch next, I'm starting a "Fire Nieuwendyk" thread.
Well, this is ****ing bizarre.
i dont get it. So he played pretty well for about a month. He's not particularly good defensively and he doesnt really put of offensive numbers. Why is he getting a big raise and a super long term deal? If we started to struggle he would have had tremendous trade deadline value, now hes an average defenseman with an above average pricetag. Ive been a big daley supporter for years, but this just doesnt make any sense.
now that i think about it its really not a big surprise. Nieuwendyk seems to put a high priority in guys who are good for the lockerroom and my impression of daley is that hes about as good of a teammate as you could ask for. They probalby should have waited until after they knew what Richards was going to do but it fits the MO.
I think this is a surefire sign that Richards will be re-signed. Joe said on the ticket that the creditors are on board with their plan to lock up their core. There's no way he spends 3mil/yr on Daley if they didn't agree to also invest 8mil/yr in Richards. It'd just be ******ation. From the way the interview sounded he was entering into negotiations with both Richards and Daley now that he had the creditors' blessings.
As for the deal, I wold have prefered 4 and 2.9mil. The thing I dislike the most is the NTC. I don't think we should be throwing those out lightly without a big discount. But If we get a top PMD and a #2 Daley will fall back to the #4-5 position where he belongs, and there's nothing wrong with having solid depth in the blueline. Look at Philly this year, their bottom pairing guys are in the $3mil range and they'll have the D depth to survive injuries int he playoffs. Not a bad model to follow IMO.
It does seem like Joe tosses around the NTC like noones business. Daley and Ott are not NTC players. Who else has Joe signed? Eriksson maybe? NTC makes sense for him, and he did sign what seems like a below market deal. It doesnt make sense to overpay money wise and include NTCs.
Remember that this is Provenzano giving out the NTCs like complimentary after-dinner mints.
Well im sure joe would put a stop to it if he disagreed
I think Eriksson has one, other player was Robidas who received a NTC.
It would be ******ation to pay Richards 8mil/year, but I agree with your overall assessment of the situation.
This NTC business is pretty ridiculous though. A major point of a NTC in an extension for a current player is to get the price tag down, this is clearly not a hometown discount contract, nor was Ott's.
Eriksson, Robidas, Ott, and now Daley are all Joe guys with NTC's. It's a dangerous way of doing business and was a hallmark of Armstrong's tenure.
Yeah Provenzano does the contracts, but Nieuwendyk decides if it should be approved or not.
Should have said "up to 8 mil." I think Richards signs somewhere around 7mil personally.
I don't especially if it's a six or seven year deal. I think it will be in the $5 to $6.5 million range.
I am not overly thrilled with the length or the amount, but it is the market rate for defensemen these days. And although Daley is a little bit of a spaz, I think he's better than people here give him credit for.
I found this part interesting:
The salary is structured how it typically is for a 27 year old player. I may be reading too much into this but it is interesting to me that the lenders are alright with the bigger money years up front rather than in the middle or on the back end of the deal.
Yeah that is really really telling.
Well we just paid too much, oh well I don't think he is as bad as the board makes him out to be
He and Ott are good buddies, and I'm sure Joe's who angle is keeping guys like that who aren't too old, but are still veterans that can provide good leadership for the younger guys. Since it's not too much of a raise I'm fine with it as long as we ditch Niskanen.
As I said in the main board thread, this should definitely signal Richards is close to signing an extension. If we have the money to resign an lets just say, less than major piece to a long term deal, we have the cash to resign Richards to a reasonable deal.
If Daley plays out this contract he's going to be one of the longest tenured players in franchise history. Up there with Modano and Broten. That's wild.
NTC may mean you just have to pay someone to move-more important is this to show Richards u are serious or is he locked up soon?
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