Standings thread (with point percentages)

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  1. Henkka

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    I also take this Wild Card -system in account.

    Atlantic Division
    1. Tampa Bay 0.737 (19 games)
    2. Boston___ 0.658 (19 games)
    3. Toronto__ 0.605 (19 games)
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    4. Detroit___ 0.600 (20 games)
    5. Montreal _ 0.550 (20 games)

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    6. Ottawa____ 0.526 (19 games)
    7. Florida_____ 0.300 (20 games)
    8. Buffalo_____ 0.262 (21 games)

    Metropolitan Division
    1. Pittsburgh_ 0.632 (19 games)
    2. Washington 0.575 (20 games)
    3. Carolina___ 0.526 (19 games)

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    4. NY Rangers_ 0.500 (18 games)
    5. New Jersey_ 0.447 (19 games)
    6. NY Islanders 0.425 (20 games)
    7. Philadelphia_ 0.421 (19 games)
    8. Columbus___ 0.395 (19 games)

    Bolded teams going to playoffs.

    Man that Metropolitan has been weak at start of the season. Ottawa is out from the playoff spot with same percentage/point total, than Carolina is going surely in.

    Our main battle will be avoiding that 6th spot in our division. Games against Montreal and Ottawa are THE most important to win right now.


    Central Division
    1. St. Louis__ 0.794
    2. Chicago___ 0.789
    3. Colorado__ 0.778
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    4. Minnesota_ 0.700

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    5. Dallas_____ 0.579
    6. Winnipeg___ 0.524
    7. Nashville___ 0.474

    Pacific Division
    1. San Jose__ 0.775
    2. Anaheim__ 0.727
    3. Phoenix___ 0.725
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    4. Los Angeles 0.675

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    5. Vancouver_ 0.595
    6. Calgary____ 0.395
    7. Edmonton__ 0.238
     
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    Good info. Thanks, Henkka.
     
  3. Flowah

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    Wow, the West....

    I think it's safe to say if we were still in the West, we would not be making the playoffs this year.
     
  4. Frozen Fiend

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    Well we're only 1/4 the way into the season, but yeah the West looks crazy.
     
  5. Unfinished Business

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    we are going in wrong direction

    philly both new york teams and new jersey are showing signs of life.

    We need to wake up before are 10 points down from 8th spot
     
  6. Big Poppa Puck

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    2014 Red Wings = 2012 Panthers
     
  7. Frk It

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    Too bad we're not still in the West. Then we would actually be prompted to drop some dead weight and clean this team up.

    At this point it's in our best interest to keep dropping in the standings, so we can get a good product on the ice.
     
  8. ArGarBarGar

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    I also think it is safe to say that the Western Conference Standings have no bearing on whether we will make the playoffs. :sarcasm:
     
  9. Henkka

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    2014 Hurricanes is more of the 2012 Panthers.

    Lucky place to be in that easy division. Our division is strong.

    Those West playoffs will be deadly. Teams will battle through three tough rounds with long travel and are maybe physically done before the SC final. Then they will face some rested and non-travelled Eastern Champion...
     
  10. Henkka

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    UPDATE:

    Atlantic Division
    1. Boston____ 0.696 (23 games) Change: +0.038
    2. Tampa Bay 0.630 (23 games) Change: -0.107 (falling down without Stamkos)
    3. Toronto___ 0.630 (23 games) Change: +0.025
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    4. Montreal __ 0.583 (24 games) Change: +0.033
    5. Detroit____ 0.580 (25 games) Change: -0.020 (quite a big gap for the Senators, they can win only us)
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    6. Ottawa____ 0.458 (24 games) Change: -0.068
    7. Florida_____ 0.354 (20 games) Change: +0.054
    8. Buffalo_____ 0.220 (21 games) Change: -0.042

    Metropolitan Division
    1. Pittsburgh__ 0.625 (24 games) Change: -0.007
    2. Washington_ 0.542 (24 games) Change: -0.033
    3. NY Rangers_ 0.522 (23 games) Change: +0.022
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    4. New Jersey_ 0.500 (23 games) Change: +0.053
    5. Philadelphia_ 0.500 (22 games) Change: +0.079
    6. Carolina____ 0.479 (24 games) Change: -0.047
    7. Columbus___ 0.413 (23 games) Change: +0.018
    8. NY Islanders 0.396 (24 games) Change: -0.029

    Metro getting little bit better. Still both Wild Cards coming from Atlantic.

    Central Division
    1. St. Louis__ 0.795 (+0.001)
    3. Colorado__ 0.773 (-0.005)
    2. Chicago___ 0.750 (-0.039)
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    4. Minnesota_ 0.708 (+0.008)
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    5. Dallas_____ 0.545 (-0.034)
    6. Nashville___ 0.522 (+0.048)
    7. Winnipeg___ 0.480 (-0.044)

    That Central TOP4 is so damn solid.

    Pacific Division
    1. San Jose__ 0.761 (-0.014)
    2. Anaheim__ 0.712 (-0.015)
    3. Phoenix___ 0.696 (-0.029)
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    4. Los Angeles 0.688 (+0.013)
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    5. Vancouver_ 0.560 (-0.030) Falling out of the race.
    6. Calgary____ 0.435 (+0.040)
    7. Edmonton__ 0.333 (+0.095)

    Our main rivals are Montreal, Ottawa, New Jersey and Philadelphia right now.
     
  11. Brick Top

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    Well, except for our games against WC teams. And his observation is relevant as it sure seems we switched conferences at the absolute ideal time given the team we're rolling out this year.
     
  12. Henkka

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    UPDATE:

    Atlantic Division
    1. Boston____ 0.706 (34 games) Change: +0.010
    2. Tampa Bay_ 0.632 (34 games) Change: +0.002
    3. Montreal __ 0.625 (36 games) Change: +0.042
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    4. Detroit____ 0.542 (36 games) Change: -0.038
    5. Toronto___ 0.514 (36 games) Change: -0.116 (worst falldown in the league since last update)

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    6. Ottawa____ 0.472 (36 games) Change: +0.014
    7. Florida_____ 0.443 (35 games) Change: +0.089
    8. Buffalo_____ 0.279 (34 games) Change: +0.059

    Metropolitan Division
    1. Pittsburgh__ 0.700 (35 games) Change: +0.076
    2. Washington_ 0.574 (34 games) Change: +0.032
    3. Carolina____ 0.515 (34 games) Change: +0.036
    (risen from 6th spot to 3rd in division)
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    4. Philadelphia_ 0.500 (34 games) Change: 0.000
    5. New Jersey_ 0.486 (35 games) Change: -0.014
    6. NY Rangers_ 0.485 (34 games) Change: -0.037 (fallen from 3rd spot to 6th in division)
    7. Columbus___ 0.471 (34 games) Change: +0.058
    8. NY Islanders 0.357 (24 games) Change: -0.039

    Still both Wild Cards coming from Atlantic.

    Central Division
    1. Chicago___ 0.743 (-0.007)
    2. St. Louis__ 0.727 (-0.068)
    3. Colorado__ 0.682 (-0.091)
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    4. Minnesota_ 0.625 (-0.083)

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    5. Dallas_____ 0.561 (+0.016)
    6. Nashville___ 0.515 (-0.007)
    7. Winnipeg___ 0.486 (+0.006)


    Pacific Division
    1. Anaheim__ 0.736 (+0.024)
    2. Los Angeles 0.714 (+0.026)
    3. San Jose__ 0.706 (-0.055)
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    4. Vancouver_ 0.639 (+0.079)

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    5. Phoenix___ 0.621 (-0.075)
    6. Calgary____ 0.456 (+0.021)
    7. Edmonton__ 0.347 (+0.014)

    Nine teams battling for those Western playoff spots. Vancouver has jumped in, on last update they were out. I would still predict that Colorado is a Cinderella team, falls out at some point and Phoenix will take that spot.
     
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  13. Henkka

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    http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

    Wings are currently at 10th position at East.

    43.3% probability to hit the playoffs. But still, our best probability is 21% for 7th position at East.

    And I think we'll catch that position at later part of the season, with a healthier team.
     
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    If this team ever gets healthy I think they could go on a run. I don't know if that is going to happen though since its largely our Olympians minus Helm that are hurt.
     
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    It feels like we've iced five completely different teams already this season. Post-olympics we need to ice four of Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Alfie, Mule and Helm every game with few exceptions IMO. And if we do, we have a shot. I really wouldn't mind a crack at Boston in the first round if we get in.
     
  16. Johnz96*

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    Columbus 5-1 over Washington drops the Wings to 12th.
     
  17. Henkka

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    Still that CBJ win was better in this case because it stole points away from Caps who are on the Wild card position.
     
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    If healthy I like our chances. I would prefer to knock out The Pens because of 09.

    Basicly we can not do anything with the injuries, but if we can get consistant goaltending, we will be climbing in the standings.
     
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    6 out of the next 7 at home. Most teams would love this, but with our home/road record I am not sure this is good. Kings, Blues, Hawks do we have a chance?
     
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    This is make or break for us. If we go 2-5, we are done.
     
  21. Henkka

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    Kings win helped at lot. We are now at 8th position. Last night also helped, because two teams behind us lost (WSH & CAR) and their probabilities got even worse.

    http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

    These numbers does not include the update from last night.

    1. Pittsburgh - 100% (playoff probability)
    2. Boston - 100%
    3. Tampa Bay - 99.4%
    4. Montreal - 93.4%
    5. NY Rangers - 65.5% (yesterday's win missing from this figure)
    6. Columbus - 62.6%
    7. Philadelphia - 59.5%
    8. Detroit - 48.1%
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    9. New Jersey - 47.4%
    10. Washington - 36.5% (yesterday's loss missing from this figure)
    11. Toronto - 33.7% (Toronto has played more games than others, so pure standings look better than this real situation for them)
    12. Ottawa - 25.9%
    13. Carolina - 25.7% (yesterday's loss missing from this figure)
    14. NY Islanders - 1.9%
    15. Florida - 0.4%
    16. Buffalo - 0.0%
     
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    Well it could not come at the worse time. Hopefully Howard can steal a game or 2, cause this team cat't outplay and win.
    I am not so sure. Toronto has 55, we 52 and 2 games in hand. So we have to win 2 games. Next 2 games Blues and Hawks
     
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    Yeah, tough schedule, but everybody has to play those hard games.

    I don't believe Toronto's chances personally at all. They will fall down sooner or later. There's more threat at Senators, imo.
     
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    With all these injuries I honestly do not know how we can score and win. If we get a point the next two games, good. If we squeeze two, great. And anything more than that is unbelievable.
     
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    Those percentages also take count the games left. Toronto has played more home games (28 @home and only 22 away) and are clearly better at home. So their approximated points are less, because they have more road games left.

    Wings have played same 24 games both home and road.
     

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