Speculation: Stamkos and Reinhart

[FanOfFlyers75]

So why haven't the Bolts re-upped Stamkos yet and the Panthers Reinhart? What are both teams waiting for?

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[Rschmitz]

So why haven't the Bolts re-upped Stamkos yet and the Panthers Reinhart? What are both teams waiting for?

He's a PP specialist at this point, a damn good one, but his other 15 minutes of ice time a night he's mostly dead weight.

JBB probably didn't want to distract Stamkos with an underwhelming offer or prospects of a reduced role. Ideally next year he's not in the top 6.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

So why haven't the Bolts re-upped Stamkos yet and the Panthers Reinhart? What are both teams waiting for?

Contract discussions are major distractions during the season

 

[pth2]

So why haven't the Bolts re-upped Stamkos yet and the Panthers Reinhart? What are both teams waiting for?

It's not like either team would be renting them out if they don't re-sign.... might as well avoid complicated negotiations during the season. Nothing good can come of it.

 

[SEALBound]

He's a PP specialist at this point, a damn good one, but his other 15 minutes of ice time a night he's mostly dead weight.

JBB probably didn't want to distract Stamkos with an underwhelming offer or prospects of a reduced role. Ideally next year he's not in the top 6.

Father time comes for us all.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

When Stamkos hit free agency the first time, the Lightning did not offer him market value. He likely could have gotten more going else where. They let him test the market.

He is older now and on the decline. I assume it's a situation where they are fine to walk away. If he will return and take a soft deal, they will keep him.

I wonder if Chicago goes after him. They seem to have a strategy of overpaying veterans in dollar+term in order to insulate Bedard and create the right environment for him. I am not sure many teams would go 3+ years with Stamkos, almost like when Marleau getting the third year from Toronto sealed the deal for him.

 

[Mrfenn92]

When Stamkos hit free agency the first time, the Lightning did not offer him market value. He likely could have gotten more going else where. They let him test the market.

He is older now and on the decline. I assume it's a situation where they are fine to walk away. If he will return and take a soft deal, they will keep him.

I wonder if Chicago goes after him. They seem to have a strategy of overpaying veterans in dollar+term in order to insulate Bedard and create the right environment for him. I am not sure many teams would go 3+ years with Stamkos, almost like when Marleau getting the third year from Toronto sealed the deal for him.

Would be nice in Chicago. Not sure he’d want to go there though. Seems like they are capping the vets to a 2 year high aav deals.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Would be nice in Chicago. Not sure he’d want to go there though. Seems like they are capping the vets to a 2 year high aav deals.

The way I see it playing out is that multiple teams offer him either 1 or maybe 2 year contracts at a high AAV, Tampa completely low-balls him because they don't really need him and aren't sentimental enough to pay him. Then whoever offers him 3 or 4 years potentially gets him.

Maybe he ends up staying in Tampa because at the end of the day, he's made so much money that it has very little value. With that said, if he is any sort of competitor, he must feel slighted at how both contract negotiations have gone.

If he is going to take a discount somewhere, and he has any sort of competitive spirit, he should go to a contender who could beat Tampa, not Tampa. That's at least what I would do, and I doubt I have the competitive fire of a pro-athlete. Maybe I'm just really spiteful.

 

[Chainshot]

Reinhart seems very happy in Florida. I would expect him to sign over the summer, within their salary structure with Barkov and Tkachuk at the high end and him somewhere below.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I think Stamkos ends up staying in Tampa and Reinhart signs a stupid contract with the Canucks.

 

[IceManCat]

He's a PP specialist at this point, a damn good one, but his other 15 minutes of ice time a night he's mostly dead weight.

JBB probably didn't want to distract Stamkos with an underwhelming offer or prospects of a reduced role. Ideally next year he's not in the top 6.

Is this a joke?? Why don't you just admit you don't watch the team or the player instead of just reading stats?

 

[miscs75]

Calendar says March 31 and not July 1. Still plenty of time before free agency.

 

[IceManCat]

They both will resign

 

[JoVel]

Is this a joke?? Why don't you just admit you don't watch the team or the player instead of just reading stats?

Lol, what Rschmitz said is the popular opinion on HF with Lightning fans. Stamkos is not a good 5 on 5 player anymore, and even on PP he'd get exposed without Kucherov.

 

[IceManCat]

Lol, what Rschmitz said is the popular opinion on HF with Lightning fans. Stamkos is not a good 5 on 5 player anymore, and even on PP he'd get exposed without Kucherov.

It's insane. Reinhart has one of the best advanced metrics in the league. He plays center and wing. Wins face-offs. Can penalty kill. Is literally a Barkov lite player that can do everything. One of the worst takes I have seen on here. Not to mention that his metrics have been good for his entire career including on a really bad Buffalo team.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Hope the Cats are able to pay Reinhart his 10M.

 

[hamzarocks]

It's insane. Reinhart has one of the best advanced metrics in the league. He plays center and wing. Wins face-offs. Can penalty kill. Is literally a Barkov lite player that can do everything. One of the worst takes I have seen on here. Not to mention that his metrics have been good for his entire career including on a really bad Buffalo team.

He was talking about stamkos not reinhart

 

[Mrfenn92]

It's insane. Reinhart has one of the best advanced metrics in the league. He plays center and wing. Wins face-offs. Can penalty kill. Is literally a Barkov lite player that can do everything. One of the worst takes I have seen on here. Not to mention that his metrics have been good for his entire career including on a really bad Buffalo team.

Think you didn’t read his post that well. He isn’t talking about Sam.

 

[BLNY]

It's insane. Reinhart has one of the best advanced metrics in the league. He plays center and wing. Wins face-offs. Can penalty kill. Is literally a Barkov lite player that can do everything. One of the worst takes I have seen on here. Not to mention that his metrics have been good for his entire career including on a really bad Buffalo team.

The quote was about Stamkos. Not Reinhart. They bolded "Stamkos" in their response.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Stamkos probably tests the market, sees some solid offers, but takes less to remain in Tampa.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

....Reinhart signs a stupid contract with the Canucks.

Very odd choice.
What kind of term/money you think he signs with them?

 

[EquivalentStay]

It's insane. Reinhart has one of the best advanced metrics in the league. He plays center and wing. Wins face-offs. Can penalty kill. Is literally a Barkov lite player that can do everything. One of the worst takes I have seen on here. Not to mention that his metrics have been good for his entire career including on a really bad Buffalo team.

Sensitive much?

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Very odd choice.
What kind of term/money you think he signs with them?

He's pretty clearly not up-to-date with our cap situation, we have a cap crunch of sorts coming up with Pettersson and Hronek's extensions kicking in. There's 0 chance we can afford Reinhart (And beyond that, why would he leave the perfect situation for him in Florida? He'll probably take a slight pay cut and extend there)

 

[EpochLink]

I think Stamkos ends up staying in Tampa and Reinhart signs a stupid contract with the Canucks.

Can’t, OEL cap hit buyout grows this year. We can all thank Jim ‘Witness Protection Program’ Benning for that ass water trade.

 

[majormajor]

I wonder if Chicago goes after him. They seem to have a strategy of overpaying veterans in dollar+term in order to insulate Bedard and create the right environment for him. I am not sure many teams would go 3+ years with Stamkos, almost like when Marleau getting the third year from Toronto sealed the deal for him.

The Blackhawks don't need a pure shooting RH on the powerplay, they've got that covered. And Stamkos isn't good enough at 5v5 to insulate anyone.

He needs to go somewhere where he can be insulated, and be a specialist. Something like Carolina, though they might be full up now with Kuznetsov on the books.