Sportsnet's top 20 left wingers

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I don't understand why people think stats only have value if they agree with everything you already think. that's not remotely the case. Some people aren't open to the possibility of being wrong I suppose

 

[Devil Dancer]

I don't understand why people think stats only have value if they agree with everything you already think. that's not remotely the case. Some people aren't open to the possibility of being wrong I suppose

But this ranking isn't based purely on statistics. Instead it's based on an arbitrary formula created by the author. It's useless.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

This is why you cant soley rely on analytics

Seems to be the norm around here. People constantly cherry pick "analytics" to pump up their favorite player.

 

[Elysian]

All these Sportsnet lists have showed me is they've mastered manipulating statistics for the most amount of clicks.

 

[CDN24]

Stopped giving any weight to berkshires lists after his 2016 defenseman list done after the subban/weber trade. subban was 3rd and weber was outside the top 20. He had him ranked 47th.

 

[ijk]

Ovechkin being so low is only valid if there are three different criterions and he receives no points from one criterion.

This is like having a unisex beauty pageant with one category being the length of the male fallos.

Ofcourse some contestants will receive zero points from one category and be low in the ranking, although like Ovy, they will find it much easier to score than most of those who are even average at male fallos length.

 

[Murky]

So you call the whole thing crap because you disagree with the ranking of one player? Wild.

I do disagree with Ovi being ninth, but that is not my point. Clearly he is 9 by the formula used to make the list.

I point out that just saying that something is stats based and therefore a fact, is a false statement. Then I went on to build a crappy stat showing that this is a crap list and I have statistics to back it up. Obviously, it was utterly nonsensical stats, but stats nontheless.

My point is that, stats can be anything between a good information and useless crap. I do actually like these particular lists because they clearly outline how they are built, by the way. I am not taking a shot at the list, I am taking a shot at people claiming stats are definitive proof of anything except the actual measurement they represent.

 

[Russian Factor]

lmao an article with statistical analysis would be worthless if it didn't challenge some of your baseline assumptions. "yeah lemme get uhhhhh one article that doesn't tell me anything please"

 

[Healthy DiPietro]

Filip Forsberg ahead of Alex Ovechkin?

Who knows, maybe this is finally the year he gets to the dreaded 65-point mark.

Well he had 0.95 p/pg last year, if healthy he'll be much closer to 82 points than 65.

 

[Riddum]

I'm surprised Matthews is not on the list. The dude is the second coming.

 

[Sasso09]

2nd top scorer in the league, but only the 4th best at his particular position. I give up.

And much better defensively than any of the other guys besides Marchand.

Lol at Panarin above Giroux.

 

[avsfan09]

Landeskog should be in there.

 

[Mickey Marner]

How JVR managed a 0.56% difficulty rating I'll never know. He received top unit PP and soft minutes under Babcock. With above average QoT relative to his competition.

 

[Carlzner]

love them fancy stats baby

 

[Robert Kentwood]

The definitive ranking of the NHL’s top 20 left wingers over three seasons - Sportsnet.ca

No surprise that Hall is number 1. Hall is also super underrated defensively.

No surprise in that SportsNet is wrong once again. Why put over the past three seasons if you only look at last season as your basis?

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Just your daily reminder that Andrew Berkshire once had Tomas Tatar over Alex Ovechkin.

It’s lists like these that give analytics a bad look.

 

[Jeti]

This is purely statistical analysis. Hips and stats dont lie. Change my mind.

They had to massage the weighting of the "advanced" "stats" to hype the Leafs in the other lists and it caught up them here maybe. Really no other explanation for how these lists keep getting more embarrassing.

 

[BlackFrancis]

Goals are only important and weigh heavily for centers, dummies.

 

[Semantics]

Amazing that with the amount of hockey most people on here watch, so many still don't understand that there's a lot more to the game than being really good at one-timing the puck from the left circle.

 

[kegluu]

2nd top scorer in the league, but only the 4th best at his particular position. I give up.

Claude Giroux is surely not top 2 scorer over period of last 3 years

 

[King 88]

Ovechkin at 9 yea not gonna even finish that list

 

[1865]

Claude Giroux is surely not top 2 scorer over period of last 3 years

Is that what the totals were made up from?

 

[kegluu]

Is that what the totals were made up from?

Title:
The definitive ranking of the NHL’s top 20 left wingers over three seasons

 

[1865]

Title:
The definitive ranking of the NHL’s top 20 left wingers over three seasons

I did miss that in fairness.

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

Definitive
A word that the OP does not understand.