Dreger: Some speculation linked the Leafs to Nashville Predators forward Mikael Granlund

[ottomaddox]

Too much smoke to not be a fire IMHO. The Granlund rumours just won't go away.

NHL Rumor Mill – March 3, 2021 | Spectors Hockey

"TSN: Darren Dreger reports the Toronto Maple Leafs still want to bolster their forward lines before the April 12 trade deadline. Some speculation linked the Leafs to Nashville Predators forward Mikael Granlund. Dreger thinks there could be a fit if the Predators agree to retain some of Granlund’s salary. The Leafs have the prospects and draft picks to make something happen.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Cap Friendly shows the Leafs with just over $130K of trade-deadline cap space. Granlund has over $2.1 million remaining of his $3.75 million salary for this season. No chance of a deal there unless the Preds absorb a considerable chunk of his salary or take back a contract of equal or greater value."

It seems like the leafs will have to give up a little more than other teams would pay to make this work.

How do you think this deal might happen? TOR needs to slightly overpay?

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[TheKrebsCycle]

Friedman brought this up a couple weeks ago . Speculation was a 2nd and 3rd I believe. Not sure why Toronto specifically would have to overpay when most teams, especially ones w Playoff aspirations are up against the cap/would require retention.

 

[Trxjw]

Wish they'd hurry up and do it. Been stashing Granlund on my fantasy team all season in the hopes he'd wind up somewhere better and give me a late season boost.

 

[MNRube]

I’m definitely among those that believe whoever acquires Granlund will be getting a steal. He has a lot to offer still and I think Nashville has been a bad fit and he’s poised to return to form if he lands in the right spot. I’ve always thought Oilers would be smart to target him while the price is low - that’s a team that is starving for talent on the wing and Granlund would have a lot of time and space next to McD/Drai.

 

[Soundgarden]

I’m definitely among those that believe whoever acquires Granlund will be getting a steal. He has a lot to offer still and I think Nashville has been a bad fit and he’s poised to return to form if he lands in the right spot. I’ve always thought Oilers would be smart to target him while the price is low - that’s a team that is starving for talent on the wing and Granlund would have a lot of time and space next to McD/Drai.

Granlund has definitely returned to form this season compared to the last two, it's just our team is gawdawful.

 

[Bedards Dad]

If it happens, march 13 seems like a good day. They have finished playing the 2nd best team in the division, with only a hand full of games over the 14 day quarantine period against the Sens and Flames. I would guess Dermott would go back the other way, which I'm not overly thrilled about. And I don't see any way Nashville does this for bottom line players (Vesey/Petan/Barabanov) plus picks, but if they would that would be a HUGE win for the Leafs.

 

[jaric1862]

Throw Ingram in it too while you're at it

 

[57special]

Granlund will be worth more if NSH has to retain a lot or take back unwanted salary. A late 2nd would be better than nothing, but i would think that some other teams could beat that easily.

 

[Critical13]

Granlund isn't my 1st choice, but I trust in Dubas' pro scouting.

Would be tough to stomach anything more than a 2nd tbh.

 

[Boondock]

Friedman brought this up a couple weeks ago . Speculation was a 2nd and 3rd I believe. Not sure why Toronto specifically would have to overpay when most teams, especially ones w Playoff aspirations are up against the cap/would require retention.

Florida - $14.7 deadline cap space
Carolina - $11.7 deadline cap space
Boston - $8.6 deadline cap space
Philly - $6.9 deadline cap space
Montreal - $4.2 deadline cap space
Pitt - $1.5 deadline cap space
Minny - $1.3 deadline cap space
Colorado - $1.2 deadline cap space
All these teams have more cap space than Toronto and would require the Preds to retain less or would require less going back to the Preds in terms of a cap dump. If the offer requires retention and a dump it will cost the Leafs more than one of the teams with more cap.

 

[Spirit of 67]

Granlund has definitely returned to form this season compared to the last two, it's just our team is gawdawful.

That's good to hear.

Nashville is my 2nd favourite team and watch them a lot.
Have really soured on Granlund but since the team isn't so good this year, I'm not watching as much.

You think he's back to what the Preds thought they were getting?

 

[DuklaNation]

Granlund is on pace to be out of the league shortly. What a disappointment.

 

[Soundgarden]

Throw Ingram in it too while you're at it

Lol no.

That's good to hear.

Nashville is my 2nd favourite team and watch them a lot.
Have really soured on Granlund but since the team isn't so good this year, I'm not watching as much.

You think he's back to what the Preds thought they were getting?

In terms of hustle and defensively play, yes. He's shown his offensive flair more and more this season too, he's 3rd on the team in points and goals, it's not entirely impressive when he's only got 4 goals and 9 points, but still. It's something.

 

[Bedards Dad]

Granlund is on pace to be out of the league shortly. What a disappointment.

He's a 29 year old depth player and is paid like one. Not sure how that's disappointing.

 

[CraigsList]

Would Kerfoot be going the other way? This would eliminate 3.5m of cap space by Toronto for future usage in other years. Trading Kerfoot + pick for a pending UFA makes sense.

 

[Boondock]

Friedman brought this up a couple weeks ago . Speculation was a 2nd and 3rd I believe. Not sure why Toronto specifically would have to overpay when most teams, especially ones w Playoff aspirations are up against the cap/would require retention.

Speculation by Leaf fans? I would think there would be 4-5 teams willing to offer a better return for Granlund than a very late 2nd and a very late 3rd, especially given his low cap hit and the fact the Leafs would need retention and a dump.

 

[DuklaNation]

He's a 29 year old depth player and is paid like one. Not sure how that's disappointing.

For a 9th overall pick, I would say his career has been a disappointment. Unless you value empty stats.

 

[jaric1862]

I honestly think Haula is the more realistic option. Would be much easier to work that out cap wise and he would be much easier to acquire

Lol no.

Lol I'm just playing

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Florida - $14.7 deadline cap space
Carolina - $11.7 deadline cap space
Boston - $8.6 deadline cap space
Philly - $6.9 deadline cap space
Montreal - $4.2 deadline cap space
Pitt - $1.5 deadline cap space
Minny - $1.3 deadline cap space
Colorado - $1.2 deadline cap space
All these teams have more cap space than Toronto and would require the Preds to retain less or would require less going back to the Preds in terms of a cap dump. If the offer requires retention and a dump it will cost the Leafs more than one of the teams with more cap.

The later in the season it gets the less actual cap is required to get it done. Also these are the only teams vying for the playoffs? The likelihood of Nashville being required to retain is very high , especially if a contender is attempting to add multiple pieces, which any may . He won't return a 1st or blue chipper in any case . Friedman speculated a 2nd plus; seems pretty reasonable launch pt .

 

[Boondock]

The later in the season it gets the less actual cap is required to get it done. Also these are the only teams vying for the playoffs? The likelihood of Nashville being required to retain is very high , especially if a contender is attempting to add multiple pieces, which any may . He won't return a 1st or blue chipper in any case . Friedman speculated a 2nd plus; seems pretty reasonable launch pt .

That is the deadline cap space so the it takes into account the later in the season amount. No these aren't the only teams via for the playoffs, but it is 8 examples of teams in playoff positions that have more cap available than the Leafs. I don't disagree that the Preds might have to retain, but for the Avs, it would be less than the Leafs, for the Bruins its less than the Leafs and they might not need to send a dump back. All these things impact the trade value. To assume the Leafs will get a player like Granlund over every other team for a very late 2nd + with retention and a dump seems unlikely. I could see a 2nd and a decent prospect, but other teams in better financial situations will be considering Granlund as well.

 

[innitfam]

2nd + Engvall for Granlund @ 50%?

Maybe there's another forward more enticing the Leafs can offer? Or the other way - is Engvall worth more to Leafs fans?

 

[Pelle31]

Too much smoke to not be a fire IMHO. The Granlund rumours just won't go away.

NHL Rumor Mill – March 3, 2021 | Spectors Hockey

"TSN: Darren Dreger reports the Toronto Maple Leafs still want to bolster their forward lines before the April 12 trade deadline. Some speculation linked the Leafs to Nashville Predators forward Mikael Granlund. Dreger thinks there could be a fit if the Predators agree to retain some of Granlund’s salary. The Leafs have the prospects and draft picks to make something happen.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Cap Friendly shows the Leafs with just over $130K of trade-deadline cap space. Granlund has over $2.1 million remaining of his $3.75 million salary for this season. No chance of a deal there unless the Preds absorb a considerable chunk of his salary or take back a contract of equal or greater value."

It seems like the leafs will have to give up a little more than other teams would pay to make this work.

How do you think this deal might happen? TOR needs to slightly overpay?

Why would Nashville do this considering if there are other teams interested in Granlund and they don't have to retain any salary or take a bad contract back to make it work. Why would Nashville help out Toronto?

 

[triggrman]

If it happens, march 13 seems like a good day. They have finished playing the 2nd best team in the division, with only a hand full of games over the 14 day quarantine period against the Sens and Flames. I would guess Dermott would go back the other way, which I'm not overly thrilled about. And I don't see any way Nashville does this for bottom line players (Vesey/Petan/Barabanov) plus picks, but if they would that would be a HUGE win for the Leafs.

I don't think Vesey would be welcomed here very easily...

 

[triggrman]

Why would Nashville do this considering if there are other teams interested in Granlund and they don't have to retain any salary or take a bad contract back to make it work. Why would Nashville help out Toronto?

Everything has a price

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Would Kerfoot be going the other way? This would eliminate 3.5m of cap space by Toronto for future usage in other years. Trading Kerfoot + pick for a pending UFA makes sense.

I can't see our team taking on any future money like Kerfoot. Worst case, we retain or take back an expiring contract. But in the current financial environment, it can't add up to more than what we'd just be paying Granlund if we didn't trade him at all. The money matters this year.

A 2nd and 3rd rounder is probably fair... but the real money could still complicate things. I don't think our team would pay an extra million dollars just to get that extra 3rd round pick, so a team that comes along not needing to dump a player back or request retention could beat that offer with just a 2nd rounder, for example.