Some Draft info for Pens fans about Dubas

[stickty111]

Hey guys, Leafs fans here, You guys might be interested in knowing about Dubas's drafts and how they are looking. I compared Lou/Hunter's drafts with Dubas's to compare them.
Drafting might be Dubas's biggest strength
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Draft Comparison/Present Results-

I thought it would be interesting to compare Dubas’s drafts from Hunter’s drafts and evaluate how each did. This isn’t meant to be in support of any of the two. Just to look at the results. Remember what they are now can always change in the future. These are just for right now. I will grade...

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[HandshakeLine]

I do not give a single shit about anything from Toronto, thanks.

 

[66-30-33]

Thanks. So he likes to get draft picks and not many of them bust but he barely drafts NHL players.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Man, Toronto fans are making me miss both the Canes and Montreal dipshits who used to descend on this board like fatties on a Golden Coral every time Crosby or Letang sneezed.

 

[stickty111]

Why are people getting upset? I thought you guys might like some info on his drafts and his success level. There is no inner agenda here. I'm actually a Dubas fan.

 

[BigEezyE22]

I do not give a single shit about anything from Toronto, thanks.

I thought Toronto got a lot of respect from the handshake line.

 

[wej20]

Kind of useless without taking into account where the players are picked.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Why are people getting upset? I thought you guys might like some info on his drafts and his success level. There is no inner agenda here. I'm actually a Dubas fan.

To be fair, this board (HFPens) was inundated with insufferable Leafs fans after the Dubas hiring. And I'm sure the main board isn't a treat either -- but I don't go there.

 

[gdsmack267]

Thanks for the info. Penguins never have draft picks though so it probably wont matter much here

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Why are people getting upset? I thought you guys might like some info on his drafts and his success level. There is no inner agenda here. I'm actually a Dubas fan.

Dont take offense, thanks for sharing

People on this side of town beat their wives, kick dogs and post the same idea presented 1000 different ways to increase their street cred.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I’m not upset, I just don’t care about anything coming out of Toronto since the Constantines called it a day. And they were from Guelph!

 

[eXile3]

I’m not sure what the original poster is trying to say. His record doesn’t look any better or worse than any other teams. Especially since some of them are still developing.

With the exception of stuff like the 2017 Dallas draft you’re lucky to get 2 NHL players from a draft. Especially if you only have so many top 30-60 picks.

 

[RSPens]

Thanks. So he likes to get draft picks and not many of them bust but he barely drafts NHL players.

I would say that it is a bit ambiguous as to whether or not it's a factor of his drafting, or a measure of Toronto's ability to develop players.

 

[BusinessGoose]

I would say that it is a bit ambiguous as to whether or not it's a factor of his drafting, or a measure of Toronto's ability to develop players.

I wouldn't think the pens ability to develop players is anything to write home about right now

 

[Peat]

I would say that it is a bit ambiguous as to whether or not it's a factor of his drafting, or a measure of Toronto's ability to develop players.

A good point, but given Dubas' role in hiring the staff that did the developing, that probably works out either way for us.

 

[RSPens]

A good point, but given Dubas' role in hiring the staff that did the developing, that probably works out either way for us.

Seeing as both the Pens and the Leafs system failed to properly develop Kappanen, probably doesn't make much difference.

 

[Peat]

Seeing as both the Pens and the Leafs system failed to properly develop Kappanen, probably doesn't make much difference.

Leafs turning Kapanen into a borderline top 6 player seems a fair outcome considering the prospect he was. Not a huge hit, but good enough, and they got more than his draft position in trade for him once done. I'll take that every day.

 

[RSPens]

Leafs turning Kapanen into a borderline top 6 player seems a fair outcome considering the prospect he was. Not a huge hit, but good enough, and they got more than his draft position in trade for him once done. I'll take that every day.

I suppose that is true, but was Kapanen what he was in Toronto because of the coach, the players or something else? If he was developed into being a top 6 player in Toronto, what caused him to drop off coming to Pitt? If he was developed properly there wouldn't have been such a massive drop-off. I agree that Toronto got great value out of him.

 

[Peat]

I suppose that is true, but was Kapanen what he was in Toronto because of the coach, the players or something else? If he was developed into being a top 6 player in Toronto, what caused him to drop off coming to Pitt? If he was developed properly there wouldn't have been such a massive drop-off. I agree that Toronto got great value out of him.

Mix of player/coach personality clash and player/system misfit. Something about how Sully handled Kapanen made him very short of confidence, and Kapanen seemed to struggle with the structure and battle Sully wanted. I'd suggest the fact he bounced back quickly in St Louis shows it was the situation rather than the player. Which isn't to suggest Kapanen is perfect or anything, far from it, but I think he's been developed well for what he is.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

What's their sticktuvness/PKing? That's all that matters right?

 

[Lomez]

Why are people getting upset? I thought you guys might like some info on his drafts and his success level. There is no inner agenda here. I'm actually a Dubas fan.

Because most of the people who post here are insufferable boors...

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Why are people getting upset? I thought you guys might like some info on his drafts and his success level. There is no inner agenda here. I'm actually a Dubas fan.

Yea I don't know why some people are hostile.

Thanks for the information. I'm excited to see what he does this summer with our cap space.

I won't be shocked if he trades down.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

The draft seems like just the place to employee analytics to uncover hidden gems.

Thanks for the sharing. Hopefully Dubas lives up to what we hope him to be.

 

[Pens x]

Why are people getting upset? I thought you guys might like some info on his drafts and his success level. There is no inner agenda here. I'm actually a Dubas fan.

Our fans haven’t been good at judging GMs as of late. You’ll have to excuse us.

 

[KareemTrustfund]

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