Pavel Buchnevich
Drury and Laviolette Must Go
I think this is what posting just to raise your post count looks like. Like talking just to hear yourself talk.
No, I think he’s right.
I think this is what posting just to raise your post count looks like. Like talking just to hear yourself talk.
Tanking doesn’t guarantee success. However, it’s by far the most successful strategy in building a cup contender.
Is this sarcasm? Tanking for a high draft pick doesn't help at all. High draft picks never turn around a teams destiny by themselves, look at Hischier, Patrick and all other recent picks minus a few examples in the leagues history
Why would it be sarcasm? If I’m wrong, provide some data. Pointing to one bad example doesn’t prove your point.
And here I thought basically all Stanley cup winners for the last 20 years had at least one top 3 draft choice on the team.Is this sarcasm? Tanking for a high draft pick doesn't help at all. High draft picks never turn around a teams destiny by themselves, look at Hischier, Patrick and all other recent picks minus a few examples in the leagues history
Tanking doesn’t guarantee success. However, it’s by far the most successful strategy in building a cup contender.
You ever heard of a good, solid tank?
Just take the refill. Fill it up to the brim. Every single Cup champ for the last 13 years has had major pieces taken high in the draft.
Minnesota has refused to tank. The problem is their own doing.
Holy hyperbole...Is this sarcasm? Tanking for a high draft pick doesn't help at all. High draft picks never turn around a teams destiny by themselves, look at Hischier, Patrick and all other recent picks minus a few examples in the leagues history
It generates way too much money for them to stay "almost" successful. They are like my own Montreal Canadiens in a way. Two teams that remind me so much of each other esp. since the Wild got our own Jacques Lemaire and that defensive-first culture. The Habs have refused to tank time and time again when they should have. When it was pointless since there was nothing in front of them.
Makes sense as most teams have at least one top 3 pick on their team. I believe there are only 7 teams who didn't have a top 3 pick in their line up this year.And here I thought basically all Stanley cup winners for the last 20 years had at least one top 3 draft choice on the team.
You have already forgot St Louis 's tank years?
2006 1 1 Erik Johnson
2006 1 25 Patrik Berglund
2007 1 13 Lars Eller
2007 1 18 Ian Cole
2007 1 26 David Perron
2008 1 4 Alex Pietrangelo
Berglund as a piece ----> Conn Smythe winner O'Reilly
Cole ---> Bortuzzo
Johnson ---> Sanford
Perron, Pietrangelo played for the Cup team
In fairness, it's explained above if you bother to read back. They were Blues' second 1st round picks those two years. The point was about hoarding multiple high picks as an indicator of "tanking".Did you seriously just call 25th and 27th overall selections tank pieces?
Wild, Habs, and Jackets all in similar situations....Just enough good qualities to be serviceable but not elite.....No man's land....The absolute worst place to be in the NHL......
The hockey people in charge of these teams have to have the guts to strip in down completely or be very aggressive going all in to try and win.....In other words stop trying to do both and once and choose a side......If you don't do that you'll be stuck spinning your wheels in neutral for years and years......
And even if you do pick a direction nothing is promised to anybody but at least you're trying to do it properly.......Hard for a lot of hockey people to have the guts to choose a side though.....
Did you seriously just call 25th and 27th overall selections tank pieces?
Quickest rebuild ever, tooThe Rangers had a sanctioned “tank” and the guys in charge still got fired. And you wonder why more front offices don’t make it a “strategy”.
None of those were tanks to get those playersIt's not a garantee but you eventualy need it to end up very low to get your hands on franchise players. Pens got Sid and Gino and won cups. Hawks got Toews and Kane and won cups. Caps got AO and won a cup.
None of those were tanks to get those players
Some reason these acquisitions of top 3 picks and teams that were bad for years getting good with these picks gets equated as any tank and they're different results.
A big difference in effort to tank you generally have casted off strong talent developing before your elite top picks show up. You need stable D or some go mid 20s vets around