So Jets are down to 27 players, and need to be 23.

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

FreePress quote
"Winnipeg now has 27 players in town, including nine defencemen, 15 forwards and three goalies and must whittle that down to 23 players by early next week. Assuming Eddie Pasquale is reassigned, that leaves some players still on the bubble: forwards Chris Thorburn, Anthony Peluso, Eric Tangradi (who is injured) and Patrice Cormier, defencemen Zach Redmond, Paul Postma and Adam Pardy."

Now what?

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[Jesus Christ Horburn]

Pasquale
Pardy
Redmond (work on shaking off the rust while Trouba gets 9 games up with the big club)
Cormier

Cormier and O'Dell become the 1st call ups

 

[wpgsilver]

16-18-26
9-12-40
15-55-67
27-19-17
14 *22

Cormier is sent down. I hope Thorburn is waived/assigned but I think it's unlikely.

39-44
24-33
5-4
3

31
35

Pardy is sent down and clears waivers. Redmond is sent down.

That's my best guess.

If Thorburn gets assigned Redmond stays up.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Pasquale
Pardy
Redmond (work on shaking off the rust while Trouba gets 9 games up with the big club)
Cormier

Cormier and O'Dell become the 1st call ups

9 games means nothing at all for Trouba. He is free to go back and forth between NHL and AHL all season, and his contract burns a year regardless of where he plays. He is no different than any other signed player.

 

[King Woodballs]

Pasquale
Pardy
Redmond (work on shaking off the rust while Trouba gets 9 games up with the big club)
Cormier

Cormier and O'Dell become the 1st call ups

Pretty much how I see it as well.

If they want to keep Cormier, then I would waive Thorburn in all honesty

 

[peg]

Would Cormier have to clear waivers?

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Would Cormier have to clear waivers?

Yes. Scheifele, Trouba, Redmond and Pasquale are the only 4 left not needing waivers.

 

[peg]

If Cormier has to clear, I would be more inclined to send Thorburn down. Less likely anyone else would pick up Thorbs and I would be surprised if he is in the Jets plans beyond this year.

 

[truck]

Yes. Scheifele, Trouba, Redmond and Pasquale are the only 4 left not needing waivers.

It isn't anything official obviously, but Pardy and Thorburn's contract are perhaps waiver proof.

I say that because they suck and are on one way deals.

 

[Rook37]

9 games means nothing at all for Trouba. He is free to go back and forth between NHL and AHL all season, and his contract burns a year regardless of where he plays. He is no different than any other signed player.

Are you sure? not trying to dispute that, but the training camp thread came to another conclusion:

Holden will have to give us the 411, but I think contracts can slide in the AHL.

It looks like Lindholms did last year:

http://www.capgeek.com/player/2331

Trouba wasn't drafted from CHL so it's different for him. Just like Lindholm (as Huffer pointed out) was euro draft.

 

[wpgsilver]

If Cormier has to clear, I would be more inclined to send Thorburn down. Less likely anyone else would pick up Thorbs and I would be surprised if he is in the Jets plans beyond this year.

Agreed.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Are you sure? not trying to dispute that, but the training camp thread came to another conclusion:

Yes, I am sure. It is NOT the AHL that prevents the slide. Contracts have absolutely no problem sliding in AHL. It's the ages that are the problem.

Ages can be tricky. Since Trouba signed his contract during the CALENDAR year where he was 19, he contract was only eligible to slide once. Since it started during the 2012-13 season and he did not make it to 9 games that season, his contract slide last season. That was the only time it was eligible to slide.

It's really stupid since this is his 19 year old year and had he signed at the START of last season his contract could slide this year (as well as last year). If he had signed this summer the contract could have slide this year as well. I imagine the Jets explained this and it was an incentive to sign last year.

 

[buggs]

Yes, I am sure. It is NOT the AHL that prevents the slide. Contracts have absolutely no problem sliding in AHL. It's the ages that are the problem.

Ages can be tricky. Since Trouba signed his contract during the CALENDAR year where he was 19, he contract was only eligible to slide once. Since it started during the 2012-13 season and he did not make it to 9 games that season, his contract slide last season. That was the only time it was eligible to slide.

It's really stupid since this is his 19 year old year and had he signed at the START of last season his contract could slide this year (as well as last year). If he had signed this summer the contract could have slide this year as well. I imagine the Jets explained this and it was an incentive to sign last year.

Have you thought of going to law school? Your attention to contract detail is quite fascinating and would suit you well as a contract/copy-write lawyer. Good money to be had there.

 

[SLAYER]

FreePress quote
"Winnipeg now has 27 players in town, including nine defencemen, 15 forwards and three goalies and must whittle that down to 23 players by early next week. Assuming Eddie Pasquale is reassigned, that leaves some players still on the bubble: forwards Chris Thorburn, Anthony Peluso, Eric Tangradi (who is injured) and Patrice Cormier, defencemen Zach Redmond, Paul Postma and Adam Pardy."

Now what?

LOVE the avatar!!

 

[garret9]

Are you sure? not trying to dispute that, but the training camp thread came to another conclusion:

I had yet not concluded it would indeed slide, but knew there are circumstances in which players not drafted in the CHL could indeed play in the AHL and have it slide.

I was thinking they might but wasn't sure either way... but seems Holden has cleared it all for us

 

[BigZ65]

Why is Cormier so overrated? Because he was dealt for Kovalchuk, because he played in the WJC, or because he got on TSN for a dirty hit?

Love him on faceoffs, but there's no chance he gets in the lineup ahead of Tangradi or Wright. Can't skate.

 

[scelaton]

Yes, I am sure. It is NOT the AHL that prevents the slide. Contracts have absolutely no problem sliding in AHL. It's the ages that are the problem.

Ages can be tricky. Since Trouba signed his contract during the CALENDAR year where he was 19, he contract was only eligible to slide once. Since it started during the 2012-13 season and he did not make it to 9 games that season, his contract slide last season. That was the only time it was eligible to slide.

It's really stupid since this is his 19 year old year and had he signed at the START of last season his contract could slide this year (as well as last year). If he had signed this summer the contract could have slide this year as well. I imagine the Jets explained this and it was an incentive to sign last year.

I am sure you are sure, but I am still unsure.
We agree that, having signed in April of this year as a 19 year old, his contract was eligible to slide 1 year...but when is that year over? My interpretation is that his slide will end in April 2014 (ie after 365 days, not after the season), effectively allowing the Jets to defer his ELC this season if he doesn't play 10 games.
I am not a lawyer but I did read the CBA and found that part ambiguous.

 

[peg]

Why is Cormier so overrated? Because he was dealt for Kovalchuk, because he played in the WJC, or because he got on TSN for a dirty hit?

Love him on faceoffs, but there's no chance he gets in the lineup ahead of Tangradi or Wright. Can't skate.

I don't think anyone on this thread was saying Cormier is better than Tangradi or even Wright. Just that he is a more valuable asset then Thorburn and if there was a risk of losing Cormier it would make sense to waive Thorburn.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

I am sure you are sure, but I am still unsure.
We agree that, having signed in April of this year as a 19 year old, his contract was eligible to slide 1 year...but when is that year over? My interpretation is that his slide will end in April 2014 (ie after 365 days, not after the season), effectively allowing the Jets to defer his ELC this season if he doesn't play 10 games.
I am not a lawyer but I did read the CBA and found that part ambiguous.

No idea what you are trying to say here. Contracts only slide for each playing season.

Hell even if the ELC slides "one year" as you put it, it still kicks in in Arpil 2014. Meaning that it would start during the 2013-14 season, meaning he has to play on that contract to finish the year, burning the year. It cannot slide again. Contracts do not run from April to April.

 

[GoldenJet89]

I don't think anyone on this thread was saying Cormier is better than Tangradi or even Wright. Just that he is a more valuable asset then Thorburn and if there was a risk of losing Cormier it would make sense to waive Thorburn.

Completely agree.

I do not feel Thorbs is in the long term plans, and is a bit older.

Cormier is serviceable as a fill in, and isnt completely useless with the puck either.

If we're risking one to waivers i'd rather it be Thorburn

 

[Thesaurus]

I think what Thorburn brings to the locker room will be a big factor in him sticking around. For guys who play 4-5 minutes a night have something that sets them apart(Thorburn being the Joker in the locker room and bring good friends with Kane) makes the difference in who sticks around.

 

[garret9]

^ I dislike this logic. If your players need a "joker" in the dressing room to perform well what kinda team do you got.

 

[Andy6]

^ I dislike this logic. If your players need a "joker" in the dressing room to perform well what kinda team do you got.

A team of human beings rather than a team of statistics on skates? What workplace doesn't need different types of personalities to succeed?

 

[Inflict]

Based on what I've seen so far, I would make the following cuts.

Adam Pardy
Zach Redmond
Anthony Peluso
Al Montoya/Eddie Pasquale.

Redmond showed he can play in the NHL last year before his injury, so I see him as the first call up. Trouba can always be assigned to the AHL if he struggles in the regular season and replaced with Redmond or Pardy. Pardy is just too slow but he did show some promise as a 6th, 7th defenceman last game.

Peluso hasn't really made an impression on me and Thorburn has better chemistry with Slater than Peluso does. So I see Peluso getting cut. Either way, they are similar players and it wouldn't make too much of a difference on who is sent down.

The interesting cut will be either Montoya or Pasquale. I've liked what I've seen so far from Pasquale so far and Montoya has hardly played in the past year. It may benefit Montoya to play in the AHL for a bit as he will most likely clear waivers. At the same time, giving more playing time for Pasquale wouldn't be a bad thing either.

Edit: Just saw that Pasquale was sent down so there is one less player to worry about.

 

[King Woodballs]

A team of human beings rather than a team of statistics on skates? What workplace doesn't need different types of personalities to succeed?

They all do.
That kind of character is needed