Smith, 5pts, -5 in last 38 games

[Konnan511]

Big E and Smith need to sit for XO and Marchy.

 

[Frk It]

Even though I'm a fan of Smith, I was not in support of promoting him when he wasn't playing well. I don't think that's the answer.

Now that he's playing better I would like to see that nice pairing down the stretch of last year given a shot, at least for a game or two.

Kronwall-Smith
Dekeyser-Zidlicky
Quincey-Ericsson

As much as we may want Ericsson benched, it's not happening.

 

[RedWinged]

Smith and Ericsson both need to go?

http://thehockeywriters.com/smith-or-no-smith-time-to-part-ways-with-brendan-smith/

Agree?

Kronwall - Green/Phaneuf
DK - Q
Marchenko - Ouellette

 

[SoupGuru]

That's the second time I've heard that stat used for Smith's benefit. It treads far too close to 'he produces 10 goals per 60 mins on the second game of a back to back held on Tuesdays in the month of February when it's raining outside' territory for me.

I still have no idea what "usage adjusted Corsi against per 60" even is.

Either way, I don't think the Red Wings' future involves Smith. Which is why I think we need to start talking about how awesome of a stat "usage adjusted Corsi against per 60" and how it is clearly a spot on indication of how good a defenseman really is. Maybe if we trump it up enough, Toronto will trade us Phaneuf for Smith straight up.

 

[SimplySolace]

That's the second time I've heard that stat used for Smith's benefit. It treads far too close to 'he produces 10 goals per 60 mins on the second game of a back to back held on Tuesdays in the month of February when it's raining outside' territory for me.

I still have no idea what "usage adjusted Corsi against per 60" even is.

Either way, I don't think the Red Wings' future involves Smith. Which is why I think we need to start talking about how awesome of a stat "usage adjusted Corsi against per 60" and how it is clearly a spot on indication of how good a defenseman really is. Maybe if we trump it up enough, Toronto will trade us Phaneuf for Smith straight up.

..it says right in the article.

"The numbers that have “UA†in front of it mean that those statistics have been adjusted for zone starts, quality of teammates, and quality of competition."

 

[Yzerman1919*]

Even though I'm a fan of Smith, I was not in support of promoting him when he wasn't playing well. I don't think that's the answer.

Now that he's playing better I would like to see that nice pairing down the stretch of last year given a shot, at least for a game or two.

Kronwall-Smith
Dekeyser-Zidlicky
Quincey-Ericsson

As much as we may want Ericsson benched, it's not happening.

I approve 110%. Smith played well with Kronwall and is a different player and can use his skating ability when allowed to play his game.

 

[SoupGuru]

..it says right in the article.

"The numbers that have “UA†in front of it mean that those statistics have been adjusted for zone starts, quality of teammates, and quality of competition."

But how have they been adjusted?

Using my super special patented algorithms:
Adjusting for ice conditions, Andersson is actually our top scorer.
Adjusting for humidity and press box catering, Jurco is the 3rd best defender in the league.
Adjusting for tides and pollen counts, Babcock is worse than Eakins.

 

[InjuredChoker]

But how have they been adjusted?

Using my super special patented algorithms:
Adjusting for ice conditions, Andersson is actually our top scorer.
Adjusting for humidity and press box catering, Jurco is the 3rd best defender in the league.
Adjusting for tides and pollen counts, Babcock is worse than Eakins.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pg1fq2xm05nihgv/UACorsi.xlsx?dl=0

 

[SoupGuru]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pg1fq2xm05nihgv/UACorsi.xlsx?dl=0

I think that spreadsheet was supposed to link to this blog post:
http://ownthepuck.com/2014/12/02/usage-adjusted-possession-rates/

It's crystal clear for me now.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Even though I'm a fan of Smith, I was not in support of promoting him when he wasn't playing well. I don't think that's the answer.

Now that he's playing better I would like to see that nice pairing down the stretch of last year given a shot, at least for a game or two.

Kronwall-Smith
Dekeyser-Zidlicky
Quincey-Ericsson

As much as we may want Ericsson benched, it's not happening.

I think your reasoning for doing this is sound. Smith is arguably playing his best hockey of the season at this point. If there was a time to try it, it is probably now. More so than others, he may need to play with a rightie, but I would certainly try him with Kronwall for a spell.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

Smith's development was mishandled from day one, and he continues to be misused by Babcock.

I think the damage has been done and cannot be fixed.

 

[Claypool]

Smith's development was mishandled from day one, and he continues to be misused by Babcock.

I think the damage has been done and cannot be fixed.

I don't think his development was mishandled. I just think he isn't that great of a player at the NHL level. He hasn't performed even with sheltered minutes. He still makes rookie mistakes against weaker line matchups all the time. He decision-making ability with the puck is horrible.