Post-Game Talk: Slow starts, soft goals and poor 5on5 play doom the Oilers

[CantHaveTkachev]

6 straight games giving up the first goal
Time to start playing from the drop of the puck

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I would take an autoloss next game if Kassian ran at least 2 of these POS dirty fuks straight to the IR list

Poink and anybody else

Did he even play?

 

[Oilhawks]

Going to be some interesting doom posts in here

 

[ZJuice]

Happy thoughts:
We were not shut out

 

[LemmyUlanov55]

Drai doing what he does best, Helle made some big saves. The Jets seem to become our nemesis, doh!
I feel pretty good with Skinner starting more games, he seems pretty calm and controlled, good to see.
Guess we're getting a chance for revenge in 2 days time, hope the boys learned a thing or two from this..

 

[Cloned]

I was tempted to title this PGT “Canada beat Mexico in historic game at Commonwealth”

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Only the Kraken and Blackhawks have given up more 5-on-5 goals.

Wonder what Dave's excuse will be this season for the piss poor 5-on-5 play.

Losing Larsson is a bigger loss than most people think

 

[Shanahanigans]

This is like year 10 of the team thinking they're smarter than the numbers and making poor roster decisions. The analytics told us Keith was not a top 4 Dman anymore, yet this team consistently sewers itself by ignoring the evidence in favour of ego.

Some of you were saying we were overreacting at the time of the deal by saying that Chicago should be paying US for the cap dump. I hope you realize it now.

 

[The Safe Play]

Please save us Ethan Bear!!

He would actually be extremely useful on the third pairing right now.

 

[syz]

Losing Larsson is a bigger loss than most people think

Larsson wasn't/isn't good 5 on 5 either.

Keith and Koekkoek reminded me of him a lot tonight, just constantly throwing the puck back to Winnipeg.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Too bad one bad misplay by Skinner then a really leaky one on Koskinen plus a blatant missed call which resulted in a goal against was the difference between a .400 road trip and at least a .600 road trip.

 

[bellagiobob]

Pretty disappointing roadie. 4 out of 10 points not nearly good enough. But more than the points it’s the way they are playing. No urgency to start the games, and an absolute tire fire in our own zone. Keith had a disastrous road trip. Lots of chinks starting to show in the armor.

 

[Oilhawks]

Losing Larsson is a bigger loss than most people think

Hopefully they can get Larsson and Bear back so they can start winning 5v5 again like last season

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Losing Larsson is a bigger loss than most people think

Larsson has been absolutely trolling on Seattle so far so it's not like we lost Jaccob Slavin or anything. But we didn't replace him with anyone better either, our even strength defense is worse than it was last year.

 

[Old Boys Club]

P.U., what a stinky game. Same team as last year, nothing has changed. What do you expect, we still have the same shitty coach, shitty goalies, and have just shuffled the deck chairs. That might've worked had we upgraded to someone competent behind the bench, but Tipp has proven all he knows how to do is put McDrai together and pray for a PP.

Again, the Jets look like Cup champs against the Oilers (Tipp Vs. Maurice), but will be beaten easily by teams that actually have someone who can coach behind their bench. Such is the frustrating life of an Oiler fan.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

I think he needs to adapt and use different schemes. It’s clear this isn’t working.

I think it's a soft defense corp getting exposed by bad decision making - ill-timed offensive pinches that go the other way for goals and soft d-zone play that chases too much and shows little physical effort to defend. Result is a lot of soft ice in high scoring areas which more often than not is finding its way in the net. Goaltending that can't consistency clean up poor decision making in front is often contributory to this team having to chase games.

 

[Snipes45]

Bad team is bad for bad reasons. Get rid of Koskinen before his fake value goes back to normal.

Also get some NHL bodies to help. Frankly one piece equivalent of the pickup artist, law should start bullying Keith into retirement

Did our bottom 6 really have like 1 shot near the end of the game?

Keep Kass and Foegele and just throw FOUR AHL PLAYERS THERE

How can it be any worse?

Go beg PITT for a trade they have a plethora of cheap competent players

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Did our bottom 6 really have like 1 shot near the end of the game?

Keep Kass and Foegele and just throw FOUR AHL PLAYERS THERE

How can it be any worse?

Why even keep those two? They're nothing special.

 

[McDrai]

The going value for Duncan Keith was a negative 1st round pick and or negative 2 2nd rounders as seen by the Marleau and Ladd trades. Not only did we not pick up high draft picks for taking on this cap dump (yes that's what this is and always was) we actually GAVE ASSETS for him. Unbelievable.

Yes, exactly. Holland was stuck in the dark ages and thought that Keith would be as durable and effective as Chris Chelios. He was enamored by prime Keith without realizing that Keith is a shadow of his former self. He's more of a bottom pair dman at this point in his career which is fine. However, it is not fine when you pay actual assets to take on such a high cap hit.

 

[Juxta Position]

all of that...not good. i hope some of those guys feel shame on the long bus ride to Regina so they can catch a flight back to edmonton.

 

[Oilhawks]

He would actually be extremely useful on the third pairing right now.

I’d prefer a guy that has more size and speed that doesn’t get trounced in the corners

 

[McTonyBrar]

I'm so sick of Koskinen. I can't believe so many people are not done with this guy. HOW many bad goals has he allowed consistently now? How many times has he allowed the first goal in a game on the first 1-5 shots?

 

[The Panther]

Very interesting to see which goalie Tippet starts next game in the re-match. Koskinen when tired just always gives up one or (usually) two freebie-goals. There were two stinkers tonight, and that was the difference.

That said, as we all agree, the Oilers looked gassed from the opening face-off while the Jets were fired-up and ready to go. As usual, the Oilers showed up for the third period, but too little too late.

Yes, Duncan Keith had a rough night, though I actually didn't think any particular Oiler (maybe Keith and Koskinen) played very poorly, but as a whole the club just didn't look ready to go from the first face-off.

The re-match is going to be very interesting, though.

Finally, what exactly happened to Derek Ryan in the 2nd period? He was injured in some sort of collision with Scheifle, and the Jets' broadcasters were so busy masturbating the Jets' subsequent power-play that they didn't bother to go back and check.

As you can see, I'm a little salty over the Winnipeg broadcasting team. Their obsessive "sell-job" narrative on Draisaitl's viciously received cross-check to the back was disgraceful. They barely talked about Edmonton all game, as they were too busy salivating over the Jets' "complete game" and suggesting that Draisaitl might be in disfavor with the refs now because of his "sell job". Idiots.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Get a goalie.

 

[Cloned]

I think it's a soft defense corp getting exposed by bad decision making - ill-timed offensive pinches that go the other way for goals and soft d-zone play that chases too much and shows little physical effort to defend. Result is a lot of soft ice in high scoring areas which more often than not is finding its way in the net. Goaltending that can't consistency clean up poor decision making in front is often contributory to this team having to chase games.

It’s because he’s playing a traditional collapsing defensive scheme when he doesn’t have the defensemen or the goalies for it. The wingers have speed; let them run a tighter point strategy.