^ phil, and yet with the total digitization and immediate availability of all music where and whenever you want it, vinyl has made a huge comeback. nice market, sure, but from what i understand most dedicated record stores (i.e., not a wal-mart or a target) sell considerably more product in vinyl than they do in CD. so who knows?
the interesting wrinkle in all of this is some writers see a connection between the luxury vinyl industry among 30-something people today and the accelerated 90s trading card industry they grew up with. example: http://thewire.co.uk/in-writing/essays/collateral-damage_numero-group-on-the-vinyl-bubble
curious how much my Andy Moog rookie card is!
haha
If you take out supply and demand, then doesn't what you're asking for just boil down to "how much better was player X than player Y?"
Yes, things go in cycles. Well who knows, I guess. You know how it is popular to wear the thick rimmed glasses now for whatever reason? Well, 10 years ago you would have associated that with the 1960s and assumed THAT style would never make a comeback.
Does this mean people should hang onto their bell bottoms?
Also, don't forget that those prices in Beckett are for ungraded cards, not graded cards. Big difference in prices when dealing with the two.
I remember when I was younger, a Roy RC was worth 250... now it's 100? how does that make sense...
i'll keep my cards, just because... i like them. **** these absurd values and deflated markets. It's something i'll pass on to my kids (if i have any)
actually found one of my cards the other day loosely rolling around, great condition as its in a hardloader but it was a gilmour card with the face of dave gagner instead Hhahaha... once of my favs.
Allow me to disagree. This way everybody can get their hands on game-used memorabilia for an affordable price. I know many jersey collectors has your view on it, but that's easy for them to say.
Yeah, couldn't disagree more.
It's like chopping up a classic Ferrari and then giving out inch-squared chunks of the quarter panels. Out of context and not as the complete item, it means absolutely nothing. And it's ruining something that did.
Truth is Beckett's values are useless. The best guide these days is ebay because a card is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
Agree wholeheartedly. Theyve done it to seats from the Forum to old Chicago Stadium; game worn original goalie pads from the likes of Johnny Bower to Glenn Hall, just on & on. Once destroyed its gone forever. I fail to see the attraction in owning a tiny piece of whatever but I guess it does satiate a certain segment of the collectors market. Was quite surprised when I first saw it on-line some years ago.
true.
Beckett's values were made up. They weren't based on actual sales being made... like a stock's price on a stock market, for example.
Beckett "claimed" they assessed card values based on prices paid at card shows but the problem using that logic is that at card shows everyone is using Beckett prices to buy and sell.
Beckett "claimed" they assessed card values based on prices paid at card shows but the problem using that logic is that at card shows everyone is using Beckett prices to buy and sell.
Agree wholeheartedly. Theyve done it to seats from the Forum to old Chicago Stadium; game worn original goalie pads from the likes of Johnny Bower to Glenn Hall, just on & on. Once destroyed its gone forever. I fail to see the attraction in owning a tiny piece of whatever but I guess it does satiate a certain segment of the collectors market. Was quite surprised when I first saw it on-line some years ago.
Yeah, the non-millionaire segment. Get over it fellas. So you wont be the exclusive holders of this stuff, collect for your own sakes, not becouse your collection is better than everybody elses.
true.
Beckett's values were made up. They weren't based on actual sales being made... like a stock's price on a stock market, for example.
... Im only ok with cutting stuff up if in say the case of a jersey or hockey equipment, even a stick if its just so totaled that its integrity is shot as a stand alone piece. Then sure. Cut whatever up & attach small pieces to cards or plaques, frame them etc. Im good with that. Gives everyone a chance to own a piece of it. I noticed its been done with seats from a lot of old buildings long since gone as well & again, with something like that Id actually prefer a piece nicely mounted in a frame with a picture or certificate of authentication. But if its an item thats in great shape then no, definitely not.
Cutting Jacques Plante's goaltending pads to put it on a hockey card? Now that's terrible. You want everyone to enjoy this piece of memorabilia? Put them in a museum, don't destroy them.
Suggested reading:
http://www.petewilliams.net/blog/?p=748
and you will realize a few things about cards from the post Upper Deck era.
Yeah, the non-millionaire segment. Get over it fellas. So you wont be the exclusive holders of this stuff, collect for your own sakes, not becouse your collection is better than everybody elses.
which is not to say i condemn jersey cards, just that it's a very weird phenomenon. but then i guess, objectively speaking, collecting things that some guy who's good at hockey once wore is a pretty weird phenomenon too.
similar to peter Ing. lolcurious how much my Andy Moog rookie card is!
haha