GDT: #sjsanjosesharks @ #hcanes: trying to make the playoffs edition

[HisIceness]

We suck on Sunday afternoons, should stop scheduling them.

And lol, we outshoot the competition 45-19 and get shutout, oh my.

 

[Wolfpuck]

We suck on Sunday afternoons, should stop scheduling them.

And lol, we outshoot the competition 45-19 and get shutout, oh my.

We only got shutout because the Sharks goalie was making his NHL debut, though.

 

[Unsustainable]

So is this where we talk about McEichiFin?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Nah, we should discuss our first round opponent.

 

[NorthStar4Canes]

I find this amusing, probably because we may have seen something record-breaking (haven't checked) like when the B's scored 3 SH goals against us during one 2 minute minor. A 45-save shutout for a goalie's debut? How can anyone not like witnessing that just for the sake of sports?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I'd have enjoyed it more if it wasn't completely expected.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

How can anyone not like witnessing that just for the sake of sports?

I didn't enjoy it at all! GO FIGURE!

I guess we're all different.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Skinner has become quite good at sneaking up from behind opponents on the forecheck, swiping the puck away and taking it straight to the net. That's a really nice development in his game, in the sense that he might never be a great defensive forward but at least he's finding productive things to do when he doesn't have the puck. He was also dynamic offensively last night, maybe the best offensive player on the ice for either team. Reminded me a little of an on-point Danny Briere, who's a pain in the *** to play against.

Also, Eric looked about two orders of magnitude better than in the previous game.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Trying to find out if that's a record for the highest save shutout in an nhl debut. It's the most since 1984 at least

HF forumer Dr No has a website dedicated to tracking this sort of thing, and he can verify that it's the record since at least 1952-53 with a high likelihood of being an all-time record.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Skinner has become quite good at sneaking up from behind opponents on the forecheck, swiping the puck away and taking it straight to the net. That's a really nice development in his game, in the sense that he might never be a great defensive forward but at least he's finding productive things to do when he doesn't have the puck. He was also dynamic offensively last night, maybe the best offensive player on the ice for either team. Reminded me a little of an on-point Danny Briere, who's a pain in the *** to play against.

Also, Eric looked about two orders of magnitude better than in the previous game.

That's something Semin has always been great at (anywhere on the ice, actually), just hasn't done it this year at all.

And yeah, that was, to use DaCock's word, "vintage" EStaal playoff beast mode. He did it in the first against the B's, seemed to maintain it through the entire SJ game. If he keeps that going, the points will come, assuming we don't run into too many more goaltending performances like that.

I previously said there wasn't much to complain about that game, but we do still need somebody planting themselves in the front of the net. Wide angle shots don't mean **** if you don't have someone that can bang home a rebound or two every now and then.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

#freeerikcoleo

 

[Unsustainable]

Nah, we should discuss our first round opponent.

This is Metallica on medieval instruments, your argument is invalid.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I previously said there wasn't much to complain about that game, but we do still need somebody planting themselves in the front of the net. Wide angle shots don't mean **** if you don't have someone that can bang home a rebound or two every now and then.

To EStaal's credit he's one of the few guys who seems to understand that most goals are scored, either directly or indirectly, within about 15 feet of the net. But we have a couple of lines right now with no player who goes to the net with a purpose.

He hasn't said this, but I suspect Peters would prefer to have a net-front guy on the ice at all times. I wouldn't be surprised if, in the event we make some trades this season, that is the sort of player we acquire.

 

[Ole Gil]

To EStaal's credit he's one of the few guys who seems to understand that most goals are scored, either directly or indirectly, within about 15 feet of the net. But we have a couple of lines right now with no player who goes to the net with a purpose.

He hasn't said this, but I suspect Peters would prefer to have a net-front guy on the ice at all times. I wouldn't be surprised if, in the event we make some trades this season, that is the sort of player we acquire.

I've also noticed Eric likes to make the blind pass through the crease where somebody should be, but often isn't.

 

[Identity404]

It's frustrating, but hard to fault Carolina in this game. They had a bunch of great chances and made some great plays, but Grosenick was good. Sometimes the other guy is just better.

Gooseneck did what he had to do, but I'd give most of the credit to the Sharks D. They were really suffocating, especially in the third.

Now that our secondary scoring has dried up our offense is completely gone. Not going to win many games by scoring 1 or fewer goals. I thought last year was an aberration, with none of our top guys producing, but its continues to be a theme this year as well. If Staal, Skinner and Semin continue to slump McEichel might be a possibility.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

I've also noticed Eric likes to make the blind pass through the crease where somebody should be, but often isn't.

I prefer to see passes go in the direction where someone IS, not where they should be.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I've also noticed Eric likes to make the blind pass through the crease where somebody should be, but often isn't.

I'm not sure whether you're saying that as a positive or a negative.

Blind passes to the crease lead to a goal once in a while, but at the NHL level they're bad plays 99% of the time.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Shutouts over the past five years. Shots are Opponent/Carolina.

5-0 Calgary (Shots: 24, 16)
2-0 San Jose = First NHL game/shutout (Shots: 19, 45)

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3-0 Tampa Bay (Shots: 32, 31)
2-0 Vancouver = First NHL home start (Shots: 26, 31)
3-0 Columbus (Shots: 24, 36)
2-0 Calgary = First NHL shutout (Shots: 29, 23)
3-0 Montreal (Shots: 30, 36)

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3-0 Montreal (Shots: 26, 19)
3-0 Washington (Shots: 40, 33)
5-0 Tampa Bay = First start with new team (Shots: 30, 45)

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4-0 Montreal = First shutout of the season (Shots: 36, 25)
1-0 Buffalo (Shots: 20, 34)
2-0 Florida = First shutout with new team (Shots: 33, 34)
5-0 New Jersey (Shots: 31, 22)

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3-0 Washington = First NHL shutout (Shots: 33, 29)
3-0 Pittsburgh (Shots: 31, 33)
7-0 Boston (Shots: 38, 31)
3-0 Toronto = First NHL shutout (Shots: 41, 27)

 

[Ole Gil]

I'm not sure whether you're saying that as a positive or a negative.

Blind passes to the crease lead to a goal once in a while, but at the NHL level they're bad plays 99% of the time.

I don't see it as worse than just dumping it behind the net and continuing to battle/cycle there. It's not like he's all alone and has time and space to do something. It's usually behind the goalline or in the corner and he's covered fighting along the boards.

It'd just be nice if someone had a bit more instinct on what Staal likes to do. Like if he's behind the net uncovered, he's going to do a wraparound so someone should go far post.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

Shutouts over the past five years. Shots are Opponent/Carolina.

5-0 Calgary (Shots: 24, 16)
2-0 San Jose = First NHL game/shutout (Shots: 19, 45)

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3-0 Tampa Bay (Shots: 32, 31)
2-0 Vancouver = First NHL home start (Shots: 26, 31)
3-0 Columbus (Shots: 24, 36)
2-0 Calgary = First NHL shutout (Shots: 29, 23)
3-0 Montreal (Shots: 30, 36)

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3-0 Montreal (Shots: 26, 19)
3-0 Washington (Shots: 40, 33)
5-0 Tampa Bay = First start with new team (Shots: 30, 45)

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4-0 Montreal = First shutout of the season (Shots: 36, 25)
1-0 Buffalo (Shots: 20, 34)
2-0 Florida = First shutout with new team (Shots: 33, 34)
5-0 New Jersey (Shots: 31, 22)

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3-0 Washington = First NHL shutout (Shots: 33, 29)
3-0 Pittsburgh (Shots: 31, 33)
7-0 Boston (Shots: 38, 31)
3-0 Toronto = First NHL shutout (Shots: 41, 27)

lol.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I don't see it as worse than just dumping it behind the net and continuing to battle/cycle there.

I disagree with you there. The dump/grind might not be a very creative play but it contains the puck behind the net where the other team can't counterattack quickly if they win the battle. It extends the shift in the other team's zone and allows the Canes' support players to get in proper position for the next phase of the play.

Throwing the puck through the crease to nobody is usually a clean giveaway, which gives the opponent a very good shot at counter-attacking with speed. Considering Staal is usually at center and is behind the net in this scenario, there's a good chance that counterattack is an odd man break to boot. Also, it tends to throw the support players off balance, particularly the defensemen who are automatically back on their heels.

I agree that it would be nice if Eric could find some chemistry with his linemates, and it seemed that he had it at one point with Tlusty (a defensive-minded guy who goes to the net) and Semin (who tends to create space with his possession skills). I'm not really sure why that line hasn't been as magical since the lockout season, if it's just a decline in Eric and Semin's game or if there's more to it than that.

 

[jstaal]

canes

I didn't enjoy it at all! GO FIGURE!

I guess we're all different.

Hank, 80 percent of these guys really arent Canes fans...

 

[jstaal]

tarheel

I disagree with you there. The dump/grind might not be a very creative play but it contains the puck behind the net where the other team can't counterattack quickly if they win the battle. It extends the shift in the other team's zone and allows the Canes' support players to get in proper position for the next phase of the play.

Throwing the puck through the crease to nobody is usually a clean giveaway, which gives the opponent a very good shot at counter-attacking with speed. Considering Staal is usually at center and is behind the net in this scenario, there's a good chance that counterattack is an odd man break to boot. Also, it tends to throw the support players off balance, particularly the defensemen who are automatically back on their heels.

I agree that it would be nice if Eric could find some chemistry with his linemates, and it seemed that he had it at one point with Tlusty (a defensive-minded guy who goes to the net) and Semin (who tends to create space with his possession skills). I'm not really sure why that line hasn't been as magical since the lockout season, if it's just a decline in Eric and Semin's game or if there's more to it than that.

Tarheel, you are the saving grace out here, you actual have good info, dont act like 15 year old, like these other gentlemen

 

[jstaal]

noooooooooo

We only got shutout because the Sharks goalie was making his NHL debut, though.

i cant believe i agree with something you said..