Proposal: Simple 1-for-1: Montreal-Carolina

[Hostile Offer]

Victor Rask for Jacob de la Rose

Canes fans have been running Rask out of town for the past year or so, while the Habs are sorely lacking a centre with offensive talent so they could take a flyer on Rask and hope he can rebound. In return the Canes get a cheaper, more defensive C in de la Rose, who considering the Habs' bottom six C depth is pretty much forced into a very small role (unfortunately, once again). He doesn't have the offensive upside of Rask but could end up as a solid shutdown 3C. Could this work for both teams?

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[HockeyDBspecialist]

you will be more than sad seeing Rask plays on a team like the habs right now.
He won't do much difference than DLR

 

[GoldiFox]

The Canes, who are weak at Center, trade a 45 point Center for a 15-20 point winger?

No thanks.

 

[Hostile Offer]

The Canes, who are weak at Center, trade a 45 point Center for a 15-20 point winger?

No thanks.

De la Rose is a centre and is still developing.

 

[junyab]

Canes say no unless we add.

 

[sansabri]

We could only wish DLR was worth Rask.

 

[Hostile Offer]

We could only wish DLR was worth Rask.

Canes fans were proposing Rask for Andrew Shaw just a couple of months ago so yeah, there's Rask's value for ya.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Canes fans were proposing Rask for Andrew Shaw just a couple of months ago so yeah, there's Rask's value for ya.

Maybe 1 or 2 fans suggested that, but I doubt many Canes fans want Andrew Shaw for Rask.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Canes fans were proposing Rask for Andrew Shaw just a couple of months ago so yeah, there's Rask's value for ya.

Because 1 or 2 fans are responsible for determining a players value....

I, for one, would never make that trade and the majority of canes fans would agree.

 

[GHJimmy]

Id rather keep DLR since he's young not much of offensive role but defensively he was amazing, he's still growing and was upsetly rushed, last season he showed some good centre playing, two way centre and shutting down Crosby on face offs, goes with Stamkos too

 

[Captain Mountain]

Not at all interested in taking Rask at that salary and term.

 

[Price is Wright]

Add Gauthier and Roy and take Schlemko.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Add Gauthier and Roy and take Schlemko.

How about no.

 

[Price is Wright]

How about no.

Enjoy Rask then.

 

[NHL]

De La Rose played well at the end of the season and did a good job at the World. If he keep playing well and get better hes going to be a good signing for the habs for the next two years. Can't see any kind of hope like this in Rask especially at that price

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Enjoy Rask then.

Will do. Sure beats giving up Gauthier and Roy for a guy that wouldn't make our top 7 on defense in Schelmko. Talk about not understanding another teams needs when making a proposal.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

This trade isn’t even remotely close to equitable. Jesus.

Please don’t tell me Habs fans are going to start to give de la Rose the “Byron treatment.” He really isn’t worth that much.

 

[Hostile Offer]

This trade isn’t even remotely close to equitable. Jesus.

Please don’t tell me Habs fans are going to start to give de la Rose the “Byron treatment.” He really isn’t worth that much.

Rask had 9 more ES points than DLR last year in 16 more games. DLR also plays a more defensive minded game. The gap isn't really as big as you think.

 

[Steeler23]

DLR have way more value to the Habs than in a trade. Not because we absolutely need him, but because no team would pay a good price to have him. So it's better to keep him and hope he because the good 3rd line C he can be.

The asking price for Rask was 2x 2nd round not long ago. I don't think DLR would fetch more than a 3rd (and I'm being generous, it's probably more a 4th).

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Rask had 9 more ES points than DLR last year in 16 more games. DLR also plays a more defensive minded game. The gap isn't really as big as you think.

Rask was playing with a shoulder injury most of the season and had the worst season of his career. The prior two seasons, Rask had 48 and 45 points respectively.

Let's wait until DLR scores more than 15 points in a season before we start saying the gap isn't that big.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Had Carolina not thinned out the depth at center by trading Lindholm, I think the proposal would have merit. Rask has been a 35 point caliber player (and that's with a regular shift on the PP) going back to January 2017 and is coming off of shoulder surgery. In a different circumstance, clearing out the salary of a $4 mil 4C would make sense. There would be value in that.

That’s just my opinion, however. If Waddell and co. were asking 2 2nds from Montreal at the draft, this would be an unacceptable underpayment in the eyes of those that actually matter.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Had Carolina not thinned out the depth at center by trading Lindholm, I think the proposal would have merit. Rask has been a 35 point caliber player (and that's with a regular shift on the PP) going back to January 2017 and is coming off of shoulder surgery. In a different circumstance, clearing out the salary of a $4 mil 4C would make sense. There would be value in that.

That’s just my opinion, however. If Waddell and co. were asking 2 2nds from Montreal at the draft, this would be an unacceptable underpayment in the eyes of those that actually matter.

I was under the assumption the Canes would be willing to unload the underperforming Rask and his salary. Rask is the much better offensive player, I'm not denying that. However, in the eyes of many, DLR is also better than a 15 point player and had a strong latter half of the season including the world champs. A big point in this proposal was that DLR comes at a much cheaper salary but if that's a non-issue for the Canes, then I guess the deal probably won't do much good for them.

Either way, is Rask available and if so, would there be any interest in DLR and what would need to be added?

 

[PensandCaps]

Rask had 9 more ES points than DLR last year in 16 more games. DLR also plays a more defensive minded game. The gap isn't really as big as you think.

You're basing off one year.

Rask is a 45 point C,

De la rose has like no value

 

[JayKnowsHockey]

De La Who?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I was under the assumption the Canes would be willing to unload the underperforming Rask and his salary. Rask is the much better offensive player, I'm not denying that. However, in the eyes of many, DLR is also better than a 15 point player and had a strong latter half of the season including the world champs. A big point in this proposal was that DLR comes at a much cheaper salary but if that's a non-issue for the Canes, then I guess the deal probably won't do much good for them.

Either way, is Rask available and if so, would there be any interest in DLR and what would need to be added?

Trading Rask would leave Carolina without an insurance policy if Aho and/or Necas can’t cut it at center. I don’t think the Canes can afford to trade him at this point; he’s gone from easily expendable to almost necessary in the span of a month.

Now, if Faulk returns a center via trade, he'll go back to being easily expendable again. That’s something to keep an eye on.

Based on the prior asking price, Carolina would likely want a relatively high pick (a 2nd) added on top of DLR.