Should we trade one of our defenseman this year to avoid them getting exp drafted?

[garret9]

Pros for trading Enstrom:
* Enstrom is older (ie: his aging curve will be steeper)
* Enstrom's contract expires soon
* Myers salary/cap is very appealing to keep for budget team

Pros for trading Myers:
* Myers likely elicits more trade value
* Might want to actually clear both players by then and this allows that
* Enstrom is still better, despite being older, and even regressed Enstrom might still be better
* Enstrom LHD (Jets weakness) while Myers is RHD (Jets strength)

Pros for trading neither:
* Enstrom exposure to draft helps with % exposed (depending on NMC rules)



There's a few others but I think this sums most of it.

 

[garret9]

I would argue that buff lost us a few of those games in playoffs on all those times he was out of our end before the puck was and left his man completely undefended in front of the net

I would argue that can happen to anyone, and Buff's overall results in good vs bad is elite.

 

[KingBogo]

Pros for trading Enstrom:
* Enstrom is older (ie: his aging curve will be steeper)
* Enstrom's contract expires soon
* Myers salary/cap is very appealing to keep for budget team

Pros for trading Myers:
* Myers likely elicits more trade value
* Might want to actually clear both players by then and this allows that
* Enstrom is still better, despite being older, and even regressed Enstrom might still be better
* Enstrom LHD (Jets weakness) while Myers is RHD (Jets strength)

Pros for trading neither:
* Enstrom exposure to draft helps with % exposed (depending on NMC rules)



There's a few others but I think this sums most of it.

Good summation. As of now these types of discussions are a bit premature until we know the actual rules. How the league decides on NMC will be huge for some teams.

 

[voyageur]

Pros for trading Enstrom:
* Enstrom is older (ie: his aging curve will be steeper)
* Enstrom's contract expires soon
* Myers salary/cap is very appealing to keep for budget team

Pros for trading Myers:
* Myers likely elicits more trade value
* Might want to actually clear both players by then and this allows that
* Enstrom is still better, despite being older, and even regressed Enstrom might still be better
* Enstrom LHD (Jets weakness) while Myers is RHD (Jets strength)

Pros for trading neither:
* Enstrom exposure to draft helps with % exposed (depending on NMC rules)



There's a few others but I think this sums most of it.

There is no way Enstrom is better than Myers. Look at turnovers for instance. I think roles should be a predominant factor. Myers has shown he can effectively lead a PP. Enstrom for more value contributes to neither special teams. His 5 on 5 play is still relatively good. When he is on. He can not lead the rush with his skating, seldom joins it, and lacks the physicality to be effective in pressuring opposing forwards to create turnovers for our fundamental transition game. I look at how bad injured Toby was in last year's playoffs, where he was effectively targeted on the dump and chase, combined with how strong we finished this year against the California teams, who are the elite, without him, and for me the writing is on the wall. I think Morrissey-Myers can become better than Enstrom-Myers, Chiarot-Buff are very good together, so the goal should be to replace Stuart with a younger player, out of Enstrom's value. Stuart, Stafford, Perrault and Burmi will make up nearly 25% of our cap hit if Enstrom is traded. I would look at trading Pavelec for a similar contract but different role, PK specialist, LH go to faceoff guy, like Matt Stajan so that we can protect our young core.

 

[lanky]

I think we should protect our top four D and be prepared to lose a good young winger like Armia/Dano (whichever the jEts decide not to protect).

 

[garret9]

There is no way Enstrom is better than Myers. Look at turnovers for instance. I think roles should be a predominant factor. Myers has shown he can effectively lead a PP. Enstrom for more value contributes to neither special teams. His 5 on 5 play is still relatively good. When he is on. He can not lead the rush with his skating, seldom joins it, and lacks the physicality to be effective in pressuring opposing forwards to create turnovers for our fundamental transition game. I look at how bad injured Toby was in last year's playoffs, where he was effectively targeted on the dump and chase, combined with how strong we finished this year against the California teams, who are the elite, without him, and for me the writing is on the wall. I think Morrissey-Myers can become better than Enstrom-Myers, Chiarot-Buff are very good together, so the goal should be to replace Stuart with a younger player, out of Enstrom's value. Stuart, Stafford, Perrault and Burmi will make up nearly 25% of our cap hit if Enstrom is traded. I would look at trading Pavelec for a similar contract but different role, PK specialist, LH go to faceoff guy, like Matt Stajan so that we can protect our young core.

Yes way, and it's not even close... In fact, it's so not close that I question your viewing if you can't see it.

Turnovers
Enstrom actually does better in possession losses per puck touch, which is a better statistic.

The NHL turnover statistic is terrible and should not be looked at really as anything but pointing out players who likely have the puck more often and a lot of ice time. It's well known for being highly subjective and bias to the scorer. It will vary wildly arena to arena. Don't use bad statistics badly.

Power Play (5v4)
Myers has been actually very bad on the power play... very bad. One of my friends is probably the top expert on Power Play analytics and pointed out the biggest change the Jets could do to improve their PP is give Trouba Myers' minutes.
Myers scores well on 5v5, but hasn't done very well on the PP.
I'm tired of the Myers trying to deke into busy space on the PP move.

Enstrom scores better on the PP:
* Enstrom has scored more points per 60min of 5v4 time (1.48 vs 0.72)
* Enstrom has scored more primary points per 60 min of 5v5 time (1.27 vs 0.72)

The Jets generate less with either on the ice usually, but that's relative mostly to the Perreault-Byfuglien pair who are good, but they do relatively better with Enstrom than Myers in:
* rel shot attempts per 60min (Corsi): -6.14 vs -20.87
* rel unblocked shot attempts per 60 min (Fenwick): -0.77 vs -10.59
* rel shots on goal per 60min (SOG): +4.13 vs -3.88
* rel expected goals per 60 min (xG)*: +0.78 vs -0.85

Penalty Kill (4v5)
Enstrom has been better than Myers on the PK, although neither has been great and neither has been bad either.

The Jets allow less with Enstrom:
* rel shot attempts per 60min (Corsi): -7.51 vs +1.04
* rel unblocked shot attempts per 60 min (Fenwick): -3.70 vs +5.68
* rel shots on goal per 60min (SOG): -1.01 vs +3.20
* rel expected goals per 60 min (xG)*: -0.19 vs +1.12

(negative is good as you are letting fewer chances)

Even Strength (5v5)

Myers does score more. He has 2 more points in fewer minutes. Myers has 1.14 points per 60 minutes as a Jet which is really good production. Enstrom has 0.79 which is good for a 2nd pair but not top pair quality.

In terms of outscoring, Enstrom again comes up on top:
* rel Corsi% -0.09 vs -1.28
* rel Fenwick -0.51 vs -1.73
* rel Shots on goal -0.67 vs -1.57
* rel expected goals* +0.30 vs -1.32

(numbers are adjusted for score, zone starts, and venue)

Almost every RHD has Enstrom as their best LHD, although it looks like Trouba on the left side is better than Enstrom on his natural side:
* Myers' best results came when with Byfuglien on the leftside. His second best came with Trouba on the leftside, then with Enstrom, then a large gap, and then finally with Chiarot. He was terrible with Stuart.
* Byfuglien did best with Trouba on left side. Then comes Enstrom, then a large gap, then Stuart, then Chiarot.
* Trouba did best being on left side with Byfuglien. Then Enstrom, then a large gap, then Chiarot, and then Stuart.


* In case you are curious, expected goals is Corsi but with shot quality factors added like shot distance, angle, rush shot, rebound, shot type (slap, wrist), handedness vs side of ice (off hand side vs natural side), etc.

All numbers are 2014-2016 with Myers time in Buffalo removed.

 

[voyageur]

Yes way, and it's not even close... In fact, it's so not close that I question your viewing if you can't see it.

Turnovers
Enstrom actually does better in possession losses per puck touch, which is a better statistic.

The NHL turnover statistic is terrible and should not be looked at really as anything but pointing out players who likely have the puck more often and a lot of ice time. Don't use bad statistics badly.

Power Play (5v4)
Myers has been actually very bad on the power play... very bad. One of my friends is probably the top expert on Power Play analytics and pointed out the biggest change the Jets could do to improve their PP is give Trouba Myers' minutes.
Myers scores well on 5v5, but hasn't done very well on the PP.
I'm tired of the Myers trying to deke into busy space on the PP move.

Enstrom scores better on the PP:
* Enstrom has scored more points per 60min of 5v4 time (1.48 vs 0.72)
* Enstrom has scored more primary points per 60 min of 5v5 time (1.27 vs 0.72)

The Jets generate less with either on the ice usually, but that's relative mostly to the Perreault-Byfuglien pair who are good, but they do relatively better with Enstrom than Myers in:
* rel shot attempts per 60min (Corsi): -6.14 vs -20.87
* rel unblocked shot attempts per 60 min (Fenwick): -0.77 vs -10.59
* rel shots on goal per 60min (SOG): +4.13 vs -3.88
* rel expected goals per 60 min (xG)*: +0.78 vs -0.85

Penalty Kill (4v5)
Enstrom has been better than Myers on the PK, although neither has been great and neither has been bad either.

The Jets allow less with Enstrom:
* rel shot attempts per 60min (Corsi): -7.51 vs +1.04
* rel unblocked shot attempts per 60 min (Fenwick): -3.70 vs +5.68
* rel shots on goal per 60min (SOG): -1.01 vs +3.20
* rel expected goals per 60 min (xG)*: -0.19 vs +1.12
(negative is good as you are letting less chances)

Even Strength (5v5)

Myers does score more. He has 2 more points in fewer minutes. Myers has 1.14 points per 60 minutes as a Jet which is really good production. Enstrom has 0.79 which is good for a 2nd pair but not top pair quality.

In terms of outscoring, Enstrom again comes up on top:
* rel Corsi% -0.09 vs -1.28
* rel Fenwick -0.51 vs -1.73
* rel Shots on goal -0.67 vs -1.57
* rel expected goals* +0.30 vs -1.32
(numbers are adjusted for score, zone starts, and venue)

Almost every RHD has Enstrom as their best LHD.
* Myers' best results came when with Byfuglien on the leftside. His second best came with Trouba on the leftside, then with Enstrom, then a large gap, and then finally with Chiarot. He was terrible with Stuart.
* Byfuglien did best with Trouba on left side. Then comes Enstrom, then a large gap, then Stuart, then Chiarot.
* Trouba did best being on left side with Byfuglien. Then Enstrom, then a large gap, then Chiarot, and then Stuart.


* In case you are curious, expected goals is Corsi but with shot quality factors added like shot distance, angle, rush shot, rebound, shot type (slap, wrist), handedness vs side of ice (off hand side vs natural side), etc.

All numbers are 2014-2016 with Myers time in Buffalo removed.

I'll accept some of that. Myers put up really good numbers with Buffalo on the PP in his first year. He seemed to me to boost our PP last year. I can't remember Enstrom ever being good on the PP. I think he is a predictable. He may have better numbers based on the time he was on the ice with Buff. We both agree at least that Buff-Perrault is the way to go. I think Morrissey-Myers would make a good 2nd unit. More than anything involving Trouba or Enstrom.

I am curious what the actual stats (goals against) were for both Myers and Enstrom on the PK. Neither impressed me honestly. Myers blocks more shots and clears the net a little better if we are talking about simple eye test.

We both agree that Enstrom-Myers are not a strong pairing. Enstrom-Trouba would round out the d if we use my previous assertion. That would mean punting Stuart, for scraps, but i still say follow the Stan Bowman principle, to continue success you have to know when to dismantle your core, and get value for players who are valuable. I think a team like Detroit would be very interested in Enstrom. Myers carried our team into the playoffs last year. At no point has Enstrom carried this team...he has been steady, but he seems to be regressing in terms of value to the team?

 

[garret9]

I'll accept some of that. Myers put up really good numbers with Buffalo on the PP in his first year. He seemed to me to boost our PP last year. I can't remember Enstrom ever being good on the PP. I think he is a predictable. He may have better numbers based on the time he was on the ice with Buff. We both agree at least that Buff-Perrault is the way to go. I think Morrissey-Myers would make a good 2nd unit. More than anything involving Trouba or Enstrom.

I am curious what the actual stats (goals against) were for both Myers and Enstrom on the PK. Neither impressed me honestly. Myers blocks more shots and clears the net a little better if we are talking about simple eye test.

We both agree that Enstrom-Myers are not a strong pairing. Enstrom-Trouba would round out the d if we use my previous assertion. That would mean punting Stuart, for scraps, but i still say follow the Stan Bowman principle, to continue success you have to know when to dismantle your core, and get value for players who are valuable. I think a team like Detroit would be very interested in Enstrom. Myers carried our team into the playoffs last year. At no point has Enstrom carried this team...he has been steady, but he seems to be regressing in terms of value to the team?

Myers is predictable. He always does the deke into traffic move that pisses me off.
You say he boosted the PP, but the Jets did worse in everything. Maybe what you remember is wrong.

Also, Enstrom didn't play with Buff much on the PP in this sample, and no more than Myers did. Usually Perreault was with Byfuglien, which I pointed out.

And no, get Myers off the PP. I don't care about Myers "good one year, although I will admit that Myers PP performance is a bit down with the Jets relative to his history, but more his scoring. He's never been much of a PP guy, even in Jr.

 

[garret9]

I believe the Jets should do the following for our defense:

Trouba-Byfuglien
Enstrom-Myers
Morrissey-Postma
Chiarot/Stuart

If Morrissey is not ready, swap Chiarot and Morrissey.

For PP, both units optimally would both use 4F1D setups, as they do far better typically. Top unit with Byfuglien with Perreault. Second unit would be one of Postma or Trouba with one of Connor, Ehlers, or Petan (or one of Morrissey or Enstrom with right shot forward).

On PK our best (in order) for expected goals against has been:
Byfuglien, Pardy, Enstrom, Chiarot, Bogosian, Trouba, Myers, Stuart
I'd rest Byfuglien a bit and put him on the second unit, while putting Trouba on the top unit. Enstrom would go with one, the other would be either Myers or Chiarot.

 

[voyageur]

I believe the Jets should do the following for our defense:

Trouba-Byfuglien
Enstrom-Myers
Morrissey-Postma
Chiarot/Stuart

If Morrissey is not ready, swap Chiarot and Morrissey.

For PP, both units optimally would both use 4F1D setups, as they do far better typically. Top unit with Byfuglien with Perreault. Second unit would be one of Postma or Trouba with one of Connor, Ehlers, or Petan (or one of Morrissey or Enstrom with right shot forward).

On PK our best (in order) for expected goals against has been:
Byfuglien, Pardy, Enstrom, Chiarot, Bogosian, Trouba, Myers, Stuart
I'd rest Byfuglien a bit and put him on the second unit, while putting Trouba on the top unit. Enstrom would go with one, the other would be either Myers or Chiarot.

I have a hard time seeing how we improve our PK with that defensive alignment. Having both Morrissey and Postma in the lineup means that one has to regularly draw in when Buff or another d-man takes their seat in the box.. That could be trouble, and probably means we regress instead of progress.

I'd much rather see:

Enstrom-Trouba (matchup against team's best)
Chiarot-Buff (also quite capable)
Morrissey-Myers

Top 2 units form top 2nd PK units, chemistry built upon familiarity. If Enstrom is to earn his salary he had better contribute to special teams. Myers draws in. We can pair Buff-Myers if we need offense, but otherwise all 3 pairs have a measure of stability.

To keep the subject on topic i think if we will have about $43 million invested in our top 4 d, plus top 4th forwards. If we keep Enstrom and dump Stuart, as I think we have to make room for Morrissey, we may need to redeem salary for either Stuart or Pavs to leave 25% of our salaries exposed. I think the worst case scenario for everyone is that we go into next year with the status quo.

 

[garret9]

Why is it trouble? People struggle to identify which defensemen are typically going to be best on PK. It usually isn't best "defensively".

Myers hasn't been good on the PK, nor has Stuart, and both have been regulars. Why not take a shot at the others?

 

[voyageur]

Why is it trouble? People struggle to identify which defensemen are typically going to be best on PK. It usually isn't best "defensively".

Myers hasn't been good on the PK, nor has Stuart, and both have been regulars. Why not take a shot at the others?

Stuart has not been good. Nor has Myers, nor has Enstrom, but better than Stuart. Postma does not win enough board battles in my opinion. Morrissey is raw. He may be the answer, but i don't go into TC with the attitude let's try someone else unproven with a component of our game we need to improve on unless it's to draft Nolan Patrick. I would prefer Chiarot simply because he has been effective when tested. Maybe if we move Stuart we bring in an effective PKer who can also play regularly, unlike Pardy, for competition. i think you would agree that Postma for what he can add, would be better served as a #7 if that tradeoff gave us a top 10 pk team. Especially since there are sufficient candidates for the PP role, and most observers would agree that our weakness is structure, or coaching. To which Dale Hawerchuk could surely aid.

I also think that roles need to be identified on this team, and defense is probably where we need overhaul the most. We have Buff as the leader, after that?

I am also curious as to why you paired Enstrom-Myers after saying that both play better away from each other?

 

[garret9]

You say you prefer Chiarot because he has been effective, but Enstrom has been more effective, which you also say Enstrom has not been good.

Roles are scoring more goals than the other team.

 

[voyageur]

You say you prefer Chiarot because he has been effective, Enstrom has been more effective, which you also say Enstrom has not been good.

Roles are scoring more goals than the other team.

You yourself said prior that neither Enstrom or Myers were good. Nor bad. I like Chiarot on the PK. He moves well, uses his strength to win battles and keeps a good stick position, all fundamentals.

We scored as many goals as the Wild and Avalanche this year, the difference was in keeping it out of the net, if we are looking to improve our position.

With the team speed we have in our forward core, I think a Maurice team is still founded on being a team that wins defensively first, that was his imprint on the team in his hiring. We have the skating ability to stifle the neutral, and i think having good passers on defense are a way to effectuate a strong transition game. That would be the biggest knock on Stuart. Being a top 10 PKing team is a very effective way to reduce goals against. I think it starts in net. But defense is also important. Do you think.Hamonic for Myers would help us in this respect? I think we miss Slater's faceoff prowess, at least for starts. That is why i suggested Stajan who Maurice coached before. And for expendable salary mass, which under current rules might be a valuable asset in the expansion draft. I think we are one of the better positions having so many entry level contracts and several salaries expiring..

 

[garret9]

You yourself said prior that neither Enstrom or Myers were good. Nor bad. I like Chiarot on the PK. He moves well, uses his strength to win battles and keeps a good stick position, all fundamentals.

We scored as many goals as the Wild and Avalanche this year, the difference was in keeping it out of the net, if we are looking to improve our position.

With the team speed we have in our forward core, I think a Maurice team is still founded on being a team that wins defensively first, that was his imprint on the team in his hiring. We have the skating ability to stifle the neutral, and i think having good passers on defense are a way to effectuate a strong transition game. That would be the biggest knock on Stuart. Being a top 10 PKing team is a very effective way to reduce goals against. I think it starts in net. But defense is also important. Do you think.Hamonic for Myers would help us in this respect? I think we miss Slater's faceoff prowess, at least for starts. That is why i suggested Stajan who Maurice coached before. And for expendable salary mass, which under current rules might be a valuable asset in the expansion draft. I think we are one of the better positions having so many entry level contracts and several salaries expiring..

I also ranked the Jets PKers.

Here is the ranking again:
Byfuglien
Pardy
Enstrom
Chiarot
Bogosian
Trouba
Myers
Stuart

My not good not bad was just saying they were not top nor bottom.

Special teams overall performance is more coach and choosing to use your best performers.

 

[JetsFan815]

I sometimes wonder how much public opinion towards Enstrom would improve if he grew a Brent Burns like beard

 

[AWSAA]

I think we should protect our top four D and be prepared to lose a good young winger like Armia/Dano (whichever the jEts decide not to protect).

Dumb move to sacrifice an asset who is 10 years younger. Gotta package Armia, Dano, etc. for a quality upgrade if you're hellbent on protecting Enstrom. He'll be way past his prime or lost to UFA whenever this team becomes a playoff threat but go ahead... live eternal in No Man's Land.

 

[lanky]

Dumb move to sacrifice an asset who is 10 years younger. Gotta package Armia, Dano, etc. for a quality upgrade if you're hellbent on protecting Enstrom. He'll be way past his prime or lost to UFA whenever this team becomes a playoff threat but go ahead... live eternal in No Man's Land.

You have to protect Enstrom. There's no choice. Even if you decide you want him off your roster (which would be silly because he's very important), he would have to agree. And then even after that, there would have to be a team willing to give you an acceptable return. The trade market for overpaid (stagnant cap), over-the-hill players requiring lottery protection is going to be very rotten.

 

[AWSAA]

You have to protect Enstrom. There's no choice. Even if you decide you want him off your roster (which would be silly because he's very important), he would have to agree. And then even after that, there would have to be a team willing to give you an acceptable return. The trade market for overpaid (stagnant cap), over-the-hill players requiring lottery protection is going to be very rotten.

BS. If he's half as good as some here suggest they should have no problem finding suitors. Lots of teams are looking for D. As for the return they may lose him for nothing a year after the expansion draft to UFA... offers will never get any better.

Why would Enstrom block a trade to a playoff team? Has he no desire to win? He's played four post-season games in his entire career with the franchise and Winnipeg is the least desirable city in the NHL. Almost anywhere else would be a step up.

 

[lanky]

What do you consider adequate return?

 

[Hobby Bull]

A defenseman is suppose to clear the front of the net. Any big opposing player can stand in front of the net and Enstrom can't move him or tie him up.
The problem now is ... he is getting old and slowing down and of course has the big contract.

I do understand that strength is a factor...

However, I don't really see any crease-clearing in the modern NHL. There are guys who hammer away at players with their sticks, and leave the results up to the refs., but for the most part skill rules over the old snow-plow.

 

[voyageur]

Dumb move to sacrifice an asset who is 10 years younger. Gotta package Armia, Dano, etc. for a quality upgrade if you're hellbent on protecting Enstrom. He'll be way past his prime or lost to UFA whenever this team becomes a playoff threat but go ahead... live eternal in No Man's Land.

This is exactly what i think. I we draft a d-man like Chycrun, and get a decent return on Enstrom, in 2 years we could have a LHD of Morrissey, Chycrun, X (for Enstrom), which would complement our strong RHD well, and we take a salary off the books which we can reinvest into Ehlers, He lleybuck, Petan, and Morrissey, who are more integral to our core. i think Enstrom is overvalued here because he is the best of the worse. For $5.75 million there are many better d-men on the market, and taking apart the Thrashers core, and building our own, will go a long way to making us a winning team.

 

[ellismate]

I'd be down to re sign Toby to like 3.5. He's well worth his weight imo

 

[Nickel eye Heel hers]

Yes way, and it's not even close... In fact, it's so not close that I question your viewing if you can't see it.

Turnovers
Enstrom actually does better in possession losses per puck touch, which is a better statistic.

The NHL turnover statistic is terrible and should not be looked at really as anything but pointing out players who likely have the puck more often and a lot of ice time. It's well known for being highly subjective and bias to the scorer. It will vary wildly arena to arena. Don't use bad statistics badly.

Power Play (5v4)
Myers has been actually very bad on the power play... very bad. One of my friends is probably the top expert on Power Play analytics and pointed out the biggest change the Jets could do to improve their PP is give Trouba Myers' minutes.
Myers scores well on 5v5, but hasn't done very well on the PP.
I'm tired of the Myers trying to deke into busy space on the PP move.

Enstrom scores better on the PP:
* Enstrom has scored more points per 60min of 5v4 time (1.48 vs 0.72)
* Enstrom has scored more primary points per 60 min of 5v5 time (1.27 vs 0.72)

The Jets generate less with either on the ice usually, but that's relative mostly to the Perreault-Byfuglien pair who are good, but they do relatively better with Enstrom than Myers in:
* rel shot attempts per 60min (Corsi): -6.14 vs -20.87
* rel unblocked shot attempts per 60 min (Fenwick): -0.77 vs -10.59
* rel shots on goal per 60min (SOG): +4.13 vs -3.88
* rel expected goals per 60 min (xG)*: +0.78 vs -0.85

Penalty Kill (4v5)
Enstrom has been better than Myers on the PK, although neither has been great and neither has been bad either.

The Jets allow less with Enstrom:
* rel shot attempts per 60min (Corsi): -7.51 vs +1.04
* rel unblocked shot attempts per 60 min (Fenwick): -3.70 vs +5.68
* rel shots on goal per 60min (SOG): -1.01 vs +3.20
* rel expected goals per 60 min (xG)*: -0.19 vs +1.12

(negative is good as you are letting fewer chances)

Even Strength (5v5)

Myers does score more. He has 2 more points in fewer minutes. Myers has 1.14 points per 60 minutes as a Jet which is really good production. Enstrom has 0.79 which is good for a 2nd pair but not top pair quality.

In terms of outscoring, Enstrom again comes up on top:
* rel Corsi% -0.09 vs -1.28
* rel Fenwick -0.51 vs -1.73
* rel Shots on goal -0.67 vs -1.57
* rel expected goals* +0.30 vs -1.32

(numbers are adjusted for score, zone starts, and venue)

Almost every RHD has Enstrom as their best LHD, although it looks like Trouba on the left side is better than Enstrom on his natural side:
* Myers' best results came when with Byfuglien on the leftside. His second best came with Trouba on the leftside, then with Enstrom, then a large gap, and then finally with Chiarot. He was terrible with Stuart.
* Byfuglien did best with Trouba on left side. Then comes Enstrom, then a large gap, then Stuart, then Chiarot.
* Trouba did best being on left side with Byfuglien. Then Enstrom, then a large gap, then Chiarot, and then Stuart.


* In case you are curious, expected goals is Corsi but with shot quality factors added like shot distance, angle, rush shot, rebound, shot type (slap, wrist), handedness vs side of ice (off hand side vs natural side), etc.

All numbers are 2014-2016 with Myers time in Buffalo removed.

I could of used this 3 months ago on another site when people were saying Enstrom sucked and needed to be traded.

 

[heretik27]

I could of used this 3 months ago on another site when people were saying Enstrom sucked and needed to be traded.

Easy solution, don't talk to those people!