Salary Cap: Should Mac T have used a buy out on Hemsky ?

[McSuper]

Been thinking , with the Oilers getting close to the cap ,while . Should Mac T have used a buy out on Hemsky ? Also could have Nick Schultz in here as well .

Hemsky play has decline since 2006 . I think injuries may have caught up with him or as Mac T has said he became use to losing and need a change .

Looking at our bottom 6 need for size , speed , grit , with some offence chipped in . I think 5 million could be spent better else where . there are still some good player available that could help us complete now and as they are UFA they do not cost assets so it does not hurt our future .

One other thing as i am not sure of can a buy out be used this late into the summer , Can we ?

Looking for thoughts from fellow Oilers fans . I do not always get to see them play since i moved back to Halifax , so maybe i am missing something ,but in the games i seen Hemsky , he seems to be just along for the ride no real effort on most nights . Correct me if i am wrong .

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[Turrican*]

1 more year won't hurt us and we could always trade him away for assets near playoff.
I'm sure SOMEONE will bite, with this being his last year.

 

[The Nuge]

There's a case to be made for Schultz, but there's no way you buy out Hemsky

 

[Everlasting]

As long as that player can produce 40+ points on 82 games. Otherwise, resign him for less money. He may not be what he used to be, but he is can still produce some.

 

[gqmixmaster]

I don't think he should get bought out, the Oilers have the room to retain him for the remaining year and can dish him at the TD depending on the Oilers playoff positioning.

If I were Mac T I would trade him before the TD only if the return was really good based on our needs. I.E a bottom six C

 

[Oil Spill]

There's a case to be made for Schultz, but there's no way you buy out Hemsky

I agree with this 100%, besides we will be able to get something for Hemsky come trade deadline or sooner.

 

[joestevens29]

If they had a place to spend it I'd assume he would've been bought out in our second window, which may or may not still be an option.

 

[McSuper]

1 more year won't hurt us and we could always trade him away for assets near playoff.
I'm sure SOMEONE will bite, with this being his last year.

I can see this happening , but maybe it will be too late by then to make the playoffs . I love the Oilers and this proud team has been ran into the ground by Lowe . It really sad that we have become the laughing stock of the NHL . I do think things will change and when the do it will not be a small change , we will become a top team .

 

[McSuper]

I agree with this 100%, besides we will be able to get something for Hemsky come trade deadline or sooner.

As i said i agree we will get something for him . But i would rather make the playoffs now . Does keeping him and not addressing our bottom 6 hurt us ?
Also 5 million would be recovered pretty quick if we made the playoffs

 

[Samus44]

Before he broke his foot Hemsky was rather solid last year.

 

[backhandsauce]

No point on buying him out. If he chips in 10 goals and 35 assists over the season, that could equal a few more wins. He is good insurance as well in case Eberle or Yak go down with an injury.

 

[Worraps]

Before he broke his foot Hemsky was rather solid last year.

Before he injured his [insert body part here] Hemsky was rather solid [insert year since 2009 here].

Hopefully he stays healthy enough to net something back by the trade deadline.

 

[Musashi]

Yes, give him the fresh start on a new team he needs

 

[Slatsmsg]

Absolutely not, highly skilled, what an option for 3rd line scoring! Never mind that if one of the top 6 goes down he can step right in.

 

[misfit]

Is Hemsky's cap hit for this season preventing us from filling other holes? No.
Are we a better team without Hemsky than with him? Definitely not.
Does Hemsky have trade value? Maybe not to the extent we want, but yes.


Really, I can't think of any reason why we'd use our final compliance buyout on Hemsky. If we were desperate to be rid of him, we could trade him for late round draft pick and save the money. Buying him out makes absolutely no sense. None.

 

[Tarus]

Absolutely yes.

Publicly stated he wants nothing to do with 3rd line minutes leading up to signing his contract and it's readily apparent that he asked Mact for a trade out in the season exit interviews. A poor fit for the 3rd line on this team regardless, and doesn't fit in with Eakin's plan going forward of strong system play either.

Doesn't make the team better while here, improves the team via better roster synergy and cooperation with his subtraction from the squad.

 

[Gone]

No way.

To be honest, and perhaps I'm the minority, I would love to see Hemsky get 3-5 year extension. However, this extension would be at a reasonable price based on his future role as a 3rd line winger. Would 4 years at $3.0 to $3.2 be fair for Hemsky ... with him keeping in mind that he underperformed on his previous contract?

 

[djdub]

Is Hemsky's cap hit for this season preventing us from filling other holes? No.
Are we a better team without Hemsky than with him? Definitely not.
Does Hemsky have trade value? Maybe not to the extent we want, but yes.


Really, I can't think of any reason why we'd use our final compliance buyout on Hemsky. If we were desperate to be rid of him, we could trade him for late round draft pick and save the money. Buying him out makes absolutely no sense. None.

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[joestevens29]

Is Hemsky's cap hit for this season preventing us from filling other holes? No.
Are we a better team without Hemsky than with him? Definitely not.
Does Hemsky have trade value? Maybe not to the extent we want, but yes.


Really, I can't think of any reason why we'd use our final compliance buyout on Hemsky. If we were desperate to be rid of him, we could trade him for late round draft pick and save the money. Buying him out makes absolutely no sense. None.

I don't know that I agree with point 1. Granted I do think MacT is done for now, but what happens come Oct 20th when we realized that all those depth guys are no good and we need to go out and acquire a proven 3rd liner?

Cap space isn't a big deal right now, but it could be eventually.

 

[joestevens29]

No way.

To be honest, and perhaps I'm the minority, I would love to see Hemsky get 3-5 year extension. However, this extension would be at a reasonable price based on his future role as a 3rd line winger. Would 4 years at $3.0 to $3.2 be fair for Hemsky ... with him keeping in mind that he underperformed on his previous contract?

What the hell? Why would you extend an injury prone player for so long?

 

[s7ark]

No to a buy out. Worst case scenario he racks up some points for us on the 2nd PP and a team offers up something near the deadline.

I still think he's going to be moved as camp get close though. After teams have finalized their RFAs and picked off any remaining UFAs. Ottawa is still my bet, after they get Cowen signed.

 

[sepHF]

No way... I definitely wouldn't buy Hemsky out, would rather keep him on the roster. Only one year left anyways.

 

[EVBetting Site]

No point on buying him out. If he chips in 10 goals and 35 assists over the season, that could equal a few more wins. He is good insurance as well in case Eberle or Yak go down with an injury.

Significant underrating of how much a win is worth. I would be pretty confident in saying that even Sidney Crosby is worth less than or around 5 wins. No chance Hemsky is worth a "few more wins". He'd probably rate out as a negative Wins Above Replacement player (no statistical basis for this, just my opinion)

 

[McSuper]

Before he broke his foot Hemsky was rather solid last year.

Oh i forgot about that . I guess we can look at it 2 ways . 1 he was solid . 2 here we go again another injury .

 

[McSuper]

What the hell? Why would you extend an injury prone player for so long?

This , I pretty sure Mac T wants him gone to . I loved Hemsky , for so long he was the only real good player we had