Confirmed with Link: Sheahan extends contract by two years (2.075 AAV)

[Shaman464]

A little higher than he deserves, but, for negotiating with Holland, not bad.

 

[joe89]

This should rule out Helm, at least in my book. Spending ~5M on those two seems like a no-go and I'm happy to go with the bigger and younger player. When you're spending on depth, go with the guys that might break out and find a bigger gear. That's Sheahan, not Helm & Miller.

 

[HockeyinHD]

Big couple years for Riley. The hopes of second line center feel faded, but a strong defensive 3rd line center would be great.

It is impossible for him to have anything approaching as good of a shot to earn a larger role on the team than he's had between last year and this year.

If he can't get a larger role now, consider that ship forever sailed.

 

[hot dog]

I think this is a great signing. A mediocre 2015-16 left a bad impression in a lot of people's mouths, but the whole team had reduced output. I still have faith in a low end 2C ceiling for Sheahan and still believe he was one of our most valuable guys the year before.

 

[DanZ]

It is impossible for him to have anything approaching as good of a shot to earn a larger role on the team than he's had between last year and this year.

If he can't get a larger role now, consider that ship forever sailed.

I think he has late bloomer potential in him. Bigger players do tend to hit their prime later. I'm less optimistic than I was during his rookie year but I haven't given up hope completely that he can hit another level.

 

[lomekian]

I think this is a great signing. A mediocre 2015-16 left a bad impression in a lot of people's mouths, but the whole team had reduced output. I still have faith in a low end 2C ceiling for Sheahan and still believe he was one of our most valuable guys the year before.

A very fair contract for both parties. Half of last year he looked like a 1m player and at other times a 3m player...I think his worth based on last season is somewhere about 1.5-1.75, but he did show a lot more later on. At worst he'll be an excellent 4th liner who is a short handed threat and fill in elsewhere and at best he could become a 2/3 centre who can do an excellent screen job on the PP.

I suspect he'll earn himself a decent raise over the next two years...

 

[Run the Jewels]

Reasonable deal. Like Abby, the sooner they move him to the wing the better. He's Filppula lite as a center.

 

[Bench]

It is impossible for him to have anything approaching as good of a shot to earn a larger role on the team than he's had between last year and this year.

If he can't get a larger role now, consider that ship forever sailed.

And yet... Justin Abdelkader.

 

[Frk It]

And yet... Justin Abdelkader.

Franzen wasn't even in the league yet at Sheahan's age. Then it took him 2 years on the bottom 6 to get a bigger role.

 

[Retire91]

Eh, you could argue that. But then you step back and realize that there is, I think, a lot more decision making that goes into RFA signings. Future contracts, comparables, is a bridge the right deal to make? Or should we sign this kid up long term and hope for cheap. Klingberg's contract is good example. If they had gone bridge route, which would've been a reasonable way to go since realistically you would have no idea if he could repeat or improve off of that one NHL season. They would probably be regretting that right about now. Sky appears to be the limit with that kid, next contract would have him getting PAID. But they went long term, some people already consider his contract a steal.

To me though, you look at what most people here or at other sites and what they predict our RFAs will get and it typically comes in under most predictions. Think most people were saying Sheahan will get around 2.5mil. 500k isn't a number to scoff at, that money adds up. Thats why I think Holland does an excellent job when it comes to RFA signings.

I disagree but that is an excellent explanation of how you feel. This was his second contract of a bottom 6 player with a public expectation on what he would make. Holland put in the terms made an appointment and a young kid became a millionaire. Not a lot of skill more than average is needed for that.

 

[HockeyinHD]

And yet... Justin Abdelkader.

Abdelkader was a 12 minute night 4th line/2nd PK guy his first two and a half years, getting an IT bump in the second half of the shortened '13 season after the team went through a 5 game losing streak and the lines got shook up. Then he had a 2 goal and a 3 goal game and finished with 10 goals the last 30 or so games and then a couple more in the playoffs after that.

The next year was 2014, where the whole team was hurt the whole season, so he got a larger role and mostly underperformed in it.

Then 2015 rolled around and the team had very few top 6 options other than Abdelkader, so when he put up 20 he pretty much locked it in.

Sheahan's had pretty much the same chance Abdelkader's had. Probably a better one, given that he's lined up with better offensive players in his early career than Abdelkader had.

The primary difference between the two is that Abdelkader's got a more natural ability to score goals than Sheahan, and that's been the case since they both played college hockey. Don't get me wrong, they aren't renaming it the Justin Abdelkader Award for Goal Scoring or anything, but still.

Also, it doesn't hurt that Abdelkader will fight. It's becoming a lost art, but it's still marginally valuable to have someone who will thump the other guy if they run at your star.

 

[DanZ]

Abdelkader was a 12 minute night 4th line/2nd PK guy his first two and a half years, getting an IT bump in the second half of the shortened '13 season after the team went through a 5 game losing streak and the lines got shook up. Then he had a 2 goal and a 3 goal game and finished with 10 goals the last 30 or so games and then a couple more in the playoffs after that.

The next year was 2014, where the whole team was hurt the whole season, so he got a larger role and mostly underperformed in it.

Then 2015 rolled around and the team had very few top 6 options other than Abdelkader, so when he put up 20 he pretty much locked it in.

Sheahan's had pretty much the same chance Abdelkader's had. Probably a better one, given that he's lined up with better offensive players in his early career than Abdelkader had.

The primary difference between the two is that Abdelkader's got a more natural ability to score goals than Sheahan, and that's been the case since they both played college hockey. Don't get me wrong, they aren't renaming it the Justin Abdelkader Award for Goal Scoring or anything, but still.

Also, it doesn't hurt that Abdelkader will fight. It's becoming a lost art, but it's still marginally valuable to have someone who will thump the other guy if they run at your star.

I mean you're acting like Sheahan hasn't performed at all.. He produced at a 40 point pace his first two years in the league, which is what Abby has done the past 2 seasons during what is going to be considered the prime of his career. Sheahan is just more of a passer than a shooter. His production took a dip this year because he had less assists on a team where basically everyone struggled to score goals, but Sheahan has been a better player his first few years in the league than Abdelkader was...

Sheahan hasn't hit his prime yet in my opinion. I can see 50+ points at his peak if he can stay healthy, which isn't unreasonable given what he did his first two seasons.

 

[TheOtherOne]

Sheahan hasn't convinced me of anything yet but I like the two year trial period. I hope Blash figures out how to use him better. I still think he looks really good at the Holmstrom role, and I haven't really seen anything to convince me that he's a good center. I dunno. In any case he needs to find his identity soon.

 

[Shaman464]

I mean you're acting like Sheahan hasn't performed at all.. He produced at a 40 point pace his first two years in the league, which is what Abby has done the past 2 seasons during what is going to be considered the prime of his career. Sheahan is just more of a passer than a shooter. His production took a dip this year because he had less assists on a team where basically everyone struggled to score goals, but Sheahan has been a better player his first few years in the league than Abdelkader was...

Sheahan hasn't hit his prime yet in my opinion. I can see 50+ points at his peak if he can stay healthy, which isn't unreasonable given what he did his first two seasons.

Want to put money on that? Because betting against it will be the easiest money I ever make.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Franzen wasn't even in the league yet at Sheahan's age. Then it took him 2 years on the bottom 6 to get a bigger role.

And Riley definitely reminds me of Mule in several ways. A guy with all the tools but who seems to have a lack of drive/desire to make the most out of it.

 

[Ezekial]

If a player doesn't have 50 points by the time they're 24 it will never happen.

It is known.

 

[TheMule93]

And Riley definitely reminds me of Mule in several ways. A guy with all the tools but who seems to have a lack of drive/desire to make the most out of it.

Yeah ive made the comparison between Sheahan and Mule before

Both big bodies with good shots and good hands, but lack physical play and are inconsistent

 

[chances14]

 

[Claypool]

At this point Sheahan just needs NHL experience. He's only played 200 NHL games. That's just over two and a half seasons worth. Far too early to give up on him yet. I think he'll be a beast when he's 27/28.

 

[Martinez]

If a player doesn't have 50 points by the time they're 24 it will never happen.

It is known.

And by 26 they're a wash up bum.

 

[MBauer]

Want to put money on that? Because betting against it will be the easiest money I ever make.

, I'm sorry but when a guy like Nick Foligno can put up 73 points I think Sheahan putting up 50 seems within the realm of possibility, I think it's more likely that he peaks in the low 40's or so but all it takes is one year where everything clicks, I think you're really underestimating his skill set.

 

[obey86]

, I'm sorry but when a guy like Nick Foligno can put up 73 points I think Sheahan putting up 50 seems within the realm of possibility, I think it's more likely that he peaks in the low 40's or so but all it takes is one year where everything clicks, I think you're really underestimating his skill set.

In 2014 and 2015 as a 22 and 23 year old he played a combined 121 games and put up 60 points. That's an 82 game pace of 41 points.

He had a down year last season, but the people who think 40-50 points for Sheahan is unreasonable are out of their minds IMO.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Want to put money on that? Because betting against it will be the easiest money I ever make.

You also thought that Larkin wasn't gonna get near 50-60 in his 1st year

 

[Shaman464]

You also thought that Larkin wasn't gonna get near 50-60 in his 1st year

Not many did, there are about 10 NHL teams kicking themselves right now. Sheahan, on the other hand, has a long history of being an offensive black hole.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Not many did, there are about 10 NHL teams kicking themselves right now. Sheahan, on the other hand, has a long history of being an offensive black hole.

He's gone pretty much .5 ppg every season except this one