Player Discussion Shea Weber

[nhlfan9191]

What does RFA stand for? He was a Restricted Free Agent. He was well within his rights to sign a contract, which he did. Philadelphia was well within their rights to offer him a contract.

Why does it matter that other teams have been hesitant to use offer sheets? He was a Free Agent and Nashville had the right to match. They exercised that right.

Few players of Weber's caliber and age have been RFA's too.

I never said Philly didnt exercise their right. My point was Nashville had their hands tied with Suter leaving and Weber asking for big money and Philly made it tougher because it was no longer on their terms. I should’ve said Philly was played a large factor as opposed to making it sound like I was blaming them in my previous post.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Remember when the trade happened and the only positive the media could come up with was, "this will be a win for the Habs in the first two years, after that, it's going to swing the other way"

Well....

Shaw trade: "This will help the Habs win now. Those picks will take years to yield results."

Drouin trade: "Sergachev is still a prospect at this point. We don't know if he'll have success at the next level."

Bergevin trades are not only bad, but bad much earlier than anticipated.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I never said Philly didnt exercise their right. My point was Nashville had their hands tied with Suter leaving and Weber asking for big money and Philly made it tougher because it was no longer on their terms. I should’ve said Philly was played a large factor as opposed to making it sound like I was blaming them in my previous post.

That's like saying Montreal's hands were tied with with Radulov because he wanted money. Weber was a free agent. He signed a contract with the Flyers. Nashville had a right to match the offer and did so. If Nashville wanted to get a better structured contract for themselves, they should have signed him before he reached RFA status. Or signed him the previous year instead of taking him to arbitration.

 

[Price is Wright]

I'm suspecting that him continuing to play made it worse. But that's me.

 

[nhlfan9191]

That's like saying Montreal's hands were tied with with Radulov because he wanted money. Weber was a free agent. He signed a contract with the Flyers. Nashville had a right to match the offer and did so. If Nashville wanted to get a better structured contract for themselves, they should have signed him before he reached RFA status. Or signed him the previous year instead of taking him to arbitration.

Yeah, you’re right. I’m trying to think of a way to counter that debate but I agree. It could’ve been handled better with an earlier extension.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Yeah, you’re right. I’m trying to think of a way to counter that debate but I agree. It could’ve been handled better with an earlier extension.

I'll reiterate that I agree that the NHL would probably take steps to avoid a situation where the Predator's have to tear down their roster or core as a result of cap recapture. I just don't think its going to get waived away.

 

[justafan22]

So it's a lock he's LTIR'd for good in what 3 years?

 

[justafan22]

I'll reiterate that I agree that the NHL would probably take steps to avoid a situation where the Predator's have to tear down their roster or core as a result of cap recapture. I just don't think its going to get waived away.

FWIW, I believe they'll change that rule in the next CBA which is after the 2019-20 season in which is 2 + seasons away.

 

[nhlfan9191]

I'll reiterate that I agree that the NHL would probably take steps to avoid a situation where the Predator's have to tear down their roster or core as a result of cap recapture. I just don't think its going to get waived away.

There’s always the trade back option and LTIR. They aren’t screwed yet, and I really wouldn’t put it past Bettman to help one of his expansion teams in the scenario it did play out bad.

 

[Captain Mountain]

FWIW, I believe they'll change that rule in the next CBA which is after the 2019-20 season in which is 2 + seasons away.

Why? The vast majority of the contracts the cap recapture targeted still haven't expired.

 

[justafan22]

Why? The vast majority of the contracts the cap recapture targeted still haven't expired.

NHL won't let a team be screwed over by that type of rule where they have to literally gut the team. Owners will bring it up and it'll get changed. It shouldn't, but it will.

 

[justafan22]

Shaw trade: "This will help the Habs win now. Those picks will take years to yield results."

Drouin trade: "Sergachev is still a prospect at this point. We don't know if he'll have success at the next level."

Bergevin trades are not only bad, but bad much earlier than anticipated.

He has zero foresight.

 

[Captain Mountain]

NHL won't let a team be screwed over by that type of rule where they have to literally gut the team. Owners will bring it up and it'll get changed. It shouldn't, but it will.

So the NHL, which aggressively pursued the rule in the first place, is going to get rid of it in the off chance that one team is screwed by it? When there are so many allowed ways to limit liability? I don't buy it.

 

[justafan22]

So the NHL, which aggressively pursued the rule in the first place, is going to get rid of it in the off chance that one team is screwed by it? When there are so many allowed ways to limit liability? I don't buy it.

I don't either but a ton of what the NHL has done the past decade hasn't made sense.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Remember when the trade happened and the only positive the media could come up with was, "this will be a win for the Habs in the first two years, after that, it's going to swing the other way"

Well....

More like a win the first two months, he was the Norris frontrunner, don't forget.

 

[justafan22]

More like a win the first two months, he was the Norris frontrunner, don't forget.

"When you're offered a player like Shea Weber, you don't ask for more...."

 

[WeThreeKings]

More like a win the first two months, he was the Norris frontrunner, don't forget.

October Norris

#NeverForget

 

[sampollock]

I thought it was a broken foot? When did it become a tendon?

If it's a tendon injury requiring surgery there is no way this guy comes back to 100%, not at his age.

bionic man......

 

[OldCraig71]

Chez should have never tried to win a race with that f***ing horse.

 

[Roke]

"probably more likely chronic wear issue" is not encouraging.

 

[MaxDummy]

"probably more likely chronic wear issue" is not encouraging.

Holy shit

We really traded PK for nothing. f*** me. f*** me hard. So tired of this gong show. Why am I doing this to myself.

 

[Roke]

Holy ****

We really traded PK for nothing. **** me. **** me hard. So tired of this gong show. Why am I doing this to myself.

I'm more concerned about things going forward for the Habs, Weber being injured through the summer and into next season makes the inevitable rebuild more difficult.

I had hoped his reputation still exceeding his on-ice contribution would mean you could still get a decent futures return in a trade but Weber being injured makes will probably drag down his value and the injury will probably delay any Weber trade.

 

[The Nightman]

The steep decline begins now. It's only a matter of time until we have our very own Brent Seabrook.

 

[Redux91]

I think this was inevitable back in December lol. He would have come back if we were in the playoff race, but we're not, so keep him out and get him healthy and aid the tank for the rest of the way.

EDIT: this dude was playing with a torn tendon in his foot? jeez

I gotta say, as far as everything goes concerning him and how he got here and blah blah blah

i could NOT beleive how BAD he looked out there tho for when he DID play this year, and holy shit, does a torn tendon explain a LOT, i couldnt beleive he could just fall off a cliff like that

 

[G0bias]

Tough blow for the tank. Was hoping he'd come back to lead our last push down the standings.