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Proposal: Shea Weber to Toronto maple leafs

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Weber would ragdoll our players for the next 3-4 years, at least 4 times a season. For that I'd want more. I'm okay with retaining 20-25 % though, we have tons of cap space.

Liljgren and 1st is a good base, I think it's missing a pick or a B- / C+ prospect
 

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Cujokicks said:
Playing 1st year in North America ice who is 18. Weber did not start in AHL until age 20. The kid has 2 years ahead of him basically if compare starts. One vs teenagers another vs Adults.
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Lil will never ever be the player Weber is. Come on, it's like saying Mete will be superior to Subban because at the same age Subban was playing in the OHL and Mete in the NHL.

Does Lil have the potential to be a great NHL defenseman? Absolutely! To ever get to Weber's level? wishful thinking.
 

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I wouldn't make any trades for Weber until after this season. See if he can turn around the injury problems he is having this year as this could be the start of his decline due in part to becoming more injury prone.
 

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I wouldn't make any trades for Weber until after this season. See if he can turn around the injury problems he is having this year as this could be the start of his decline due in part to becoming more injury prone.
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He suffered a broken ankle after blocking a shot. These kind of injury heals 100%.

That being said, let's just close this trade. It's pointless
 
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Baksfamous112 said:
Lil will never ever be the player Weber is. Come on, it's like saying Mete will be superior to Subban because at the same age Subban was playing in the OHL and Mete in the NHL.

Does Lil have the potential to be a great NHL defenseman? Absolutely! To ever get to Weber's level? wishful thinking.
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Thats the potential and always risks. Prefer the high potential and wait game then possibly jeopardizing the rebuild.
 

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He suffered a broken ankle after blocking a shot. These kind of injury heals 100%.

That being said, let's just close this trade. It's pointless
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I agree with shuttin the thread but do ankle injuries fully heal at his age. I got a pretty nasty ankle injury last year that still cracks and gives me trouble.
 
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Baksfamous112

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I agree with shuttin the thread but do ankle injuries fully heal at his age. I got a pretty nasty ankle injury last year that still cracks and gives me trouble.
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It depends if ligaments were hit or not. When you twist it or land on it in a weird spot and it breaks, then ligaments might have been torn or hit. He received a straight shot, which only breaks the bone and bones always heals fully,
 

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Thats the potential and always risks. Prefer the high potential and wait game then possibly jeopardizing the rebuild.
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True but Lil doesn't have that kind of potential. #2-#3? Maybe, I think his ceiling (and most scout also said that) is a good #2. I doubt he ever becomes a #1 even less chance of becoming an elite #1.

Now, whether he gets there or not is another story
 
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You wouldn't take Weber for free at 5.5 million? or did you not read the OP? I can see why the Leafs would say no though, their team won't be able to contend during Weber's remaining prime years
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Exactly! That's why the Habs should keep him for their multiple cup runs....
 
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Baksfamous112 said:
Karlsson had a surgery and like 1/3 of his ankle removed. That's not the same thing.
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An ankle injury to a player that heavily relies upon mobility (defensemen) is never a good thing. He may return 100%, he may not....we shall see. It took Rielly a long time to return to form.
 
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Weber's age and regression are wayyyyyyy overblown in here. He is not the 26-27 years old Weber off course. But at the time, he was arguably the best D in the league, or let say top 3. He is still pretty solid no.1 D and i would still argue he is top 10 in the league.

Still manage to produce offensively and play pretty solidely defensively despite playing with no.4-5 Dmen.

Now just look at what Chara does right now in a winning environment. All that at the age of what 39??

I'm pretty confident Weber will still be a no.1 D in 4-5 years.
 
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SubbanForsberg said:
To :leafs

Shea Weber (30% salary retained = 5.5$ million on the cap)


To :habs

Timothy Liljegren
1st Round Pick 2018
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Hmm I guess I only have a problem with the 1st. Will MTL settle for a 2nd in 18 and 3rd in 19?

I have a hard time believing that Liljegren will ever be as good as Weber.
 

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Weber's age and regression are wayyyyyyy overblown in here. He is not the 26-27 years old Weber off course. But at the time, he was arguably the best D in the league, or let say top 3. He is still pretty solid no.1 D and i would still argue he is top 10 in the league.

Still manage to produce offensively and play pretty solidely defensively despite playing with no.4-5 Dmen.

Now just look at what Chara does right now in a winning environment. All that at the age of what 39??

I'm pretty confident Weber will still be a no.1 D in 4-5 years.
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Me too and as the cap goes up, his % taken on the cap will lower. Just look at what Karlsson and Doughty are about to get. 7.8M for a #1 D in 3 years will be considered a steal. I believe we can retool or rebuild or whatever the terms Bergevin want to use with Price and Weber.

If we play our cards right with Plekanec, Pacioretty, Petry, Byron, Shaw and draft well, then we could have a very solid team in 4-5 years
 
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I'd want more if I were Montreal. 30% retained takes a lot of pressure of the contract.
 
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