Sharks Joe Thornton hit on Capitals TJ Oshie

[Barrie22]

Boy you really had to do some mental gymnastics to write this post.

Or i can watch a fight and realize said player who supposedly KO'ed another player never actually lands 1 punch.

 

[trick9]

People seriously have no idea of the rules here?

How should this be any lesser of an penalty because JT could have tuned him up even worse? It's still against the rules.

 

[GreatGonzo]

prove it bro

prove it

where's the video

yeah none? didn't think so

That's cute. Don't be mad just because you make accusations that you can't back up

People seriously have no idea of the rules here?

How should this be any lesser of an penalty because JT could have tuned him up even worse? It's still against the rules.

No one is saying it isn't a penalty in general. It should have been a penalty, just that the "head shot" is nothing but an unfortunate circumstance.

If Oshie never fell, and Thornton ended up hitting him, it could or could have not been called.

 

[BaileyMacTavish]

People seriously have no idea of the rules here?

How should this be any lesser of an penalty because JT could have tuned him up even worse? It's still against the rules.

Except if Oshie doesn't fall, it's interference at best. He should try to stay on his feet.

 

[Bizz]

Don't have a dog in this fight but if theres one guy who knows about faking........

maybe you should watch replays of that entire series with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and many other Red Wings diving all over the place.

 

[Master P]

maybe you should watch replays of that entire series with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and many other Red Wings diving all over the place.

Well it would appear that Thorton wanted to one up them, which he did lol

 

[Statto]

I can see both sides of the argument here and in slow motion it look very bad, but at full speed it looks much less deliberate.

However when you look at it in the context of where the puck is, it’s very late. So it’s a late hit, that at best is clumsy. For me if the hit is late you should pay the penalty for any unintended consequences regardless. Deliberate or not Thornton makes himself accountable.

 

[g00n]

You can clearly see in the OP that Thornton watches Oshie the whole time and makes sure he guides his hip into Oshie's head. It's not really even debatable unless you want to clear Thornton from responsibility for that deliberate hit.

And seriously...slipped during the fight? You can clearly see his hair move from the punch. He reacted exactly as you would expect for someone taking a shot and going down, not someone simply losing and trying to sustain balance. Anyone who's been in a fight knows this.

I like Thornton but let's be reality.

 

[Bladerunner]

Don't have a dog in this fight but if theres one guy who knows about faking........

Revisiting this thread I decided to look at the Joe diving vid.

Wow, that's much worse than I expected. Thornton acts like he was shot w/nobody near him. He snaps his head like he was hit by an invisible stick or punch. Then you can see JT grinning like a kid raiding the cookie jar. Not sure what was called, but appears the DRW got an undeserved penalty. Ref should have been disciplined for gross incompetence. I've never seen a more blatant dive... makes Sid look amateurish

 

[KingBran]

Thornton is a dirty goony pice of trash of a hockey player and always has been.

 

[thisisverypainful]

And seriously...slipped during the fight? You can clearly see his hair move from the punch. He reacted exactly as you would expect for someone taking a shot and going down, not someone simply losing and trying to sustain balance. Anyone who's been in a fight knows this.

You'd have to be pretty goddamn stupid to look at the video and believe this.



Then again, this is HFBoards we're talking about. I struggle to believe 75% of the people here can leave the house without wearing a helmet.

 

[GreatGonzo]

You can clearly see in the OP that Thornton watches Oshie the whole time and makes sure he guides his hip into Oshie's head. It's not really even debatable unless you want to clear Thornton from responsibility for that deliberate hit.

And seriously...slipped during the fight? You can clearly see his hair move from the punch. He reacted exactly as you would expect for someone taking a shot and going down, not someone simply losing and trying to sustain balance. Anyone who's been in a fight knows this.

I like Thornton but let's be reality.

So Thornton knew Oshie was going to slip in that one second that he went for the hit, and the a mans face is now connected to their bicep.....I mean really? His hair moves in a motion that a person who got punched in the face would react like?

Thornton can tell the future and defies the laws of anatomy....gotcha.

 

[GreatGonzo]

Revisiting this thread I decided to look at the Joe diving vid.

Wow, that's much worse than I expected. Thornton acts like he was shot w/nobody near him. He snaps his head like he was hit by an invisible stick or punch. Then you can see JT grinning like a kid raiding the cookie jar. Not sure what was called, but appears the DRW got an undeserved penalty. Ref should have been disciplined for gross incompetence. I've never seen a more blatant dive... makes Sid look amateurish

He slashed him on the skate and Thornton embellished, selling the penalty....so no it wasn't an "undeserved" penalty. Thornton dressed it up because he decided to slash him at the ankle.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

You can clearly see in the OP that Thornton watches Oshie the whole time and makes sure he guides his hip into Oshie's head. It's not really even debatable unless you want to clear Thornton from responsibility for that deliberate hit.

And seriously...slipped during the fight? You can clearly see his hair move from the punch. He reacted exactly as you would expect for someone taking a shot and going down, not someone simply losing and trying to sustain balance. Anyone who's been in a fight knows this.

I like Thornton but let's be reality.

Your first part is crap. There's literally nothing Thornton could have done once Oshie fell. He was committed to the hit and physically couldn't stop.

The second part there have been videos posted in this very thread showing Wilson hit Thornton's shoulder as he fell back. If you chose to ignore them that's your problem but don't lie to the rest of us.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Thornton is a dirty goony pice of trash of a hockey player and always has been.

He was pretty good in that wcf a couple years ago.

 

[g00n]

Your first part is crap. There's literally nothing Thornton could have done once Oshie fell. He was committed to the hit and physically couldn't stop.

The second part there have been videos posted in this very thread showing Wilson hit Thornton's shoulder as he fell back. If you chose to ignore them that's your problem but don't lie to the rest of us.

The hit was deliberate. He watched his target and guided his lower body into it. Full stop.

Now that I've seen it the front angle video is less convincing regarding the hit, I agree. Not that it matters. 4-1

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Your first part is crap. There's literally nothing Thornton could have done once Oshie fell. He was committed to the hit and physically couldn't stop.

The second part there have been videos posted in this very thread showing Wilson hit Thornton's shoulder as he fell back. If you chose to ignore them that's your problem but don't lie to the rest of us.

Why is he committing to a hit of a player that doesn’t even have the puck

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

The hit was deliberate. He watched his target and guided his lower body into it. Full stop.

Now that I've seen it the front angle video is less convincing regarding the hit, I agree. Not that it matters. 4-1

The hit was deliberate in the sense he was making a hit, but his target wasn't Oshie's head. Oshie and Thornton had been running at each other in a previous shift and he was attempting to give him a 'howdoyado' bump into the boards.

I would have been fine if they would have disciplined him for hitting Oshie without the puck, but wouldn't have agreed if they said it was because he targeted his head.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Jumbo and Oshie

 

[KingBran]

Jumbo and Oshie

Jumbo is a fat girl that sticks her butt into other peoples faces? Yeah that's about right.

 

[HTFN]

Your first part is crap. There's literally nothing Thornton could have done once Oshie fell. He was committed to the hit and physically couldn't stop.

The second part there have been videos posted in this very thread showing Wilson hit Thornton's shoulder as he fell back. If you chose to ignore them that's your problem but don't lie to the rest of us.

Bull****. His skates literally move past the 90 degrees required to stop until his heels are pointed at Oshie by the time of contact. He could also, by the way, just stick his arms out and absorb the impact push-up style, which would have required even less of him.

You would have to be very, very stupid to actually believe that, based on the way NHL players react to the litany of other events that occur in NHL games.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

I think Barry Trotz called it "a hockey play"

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

Looked like Thornton was determined to lay some kind of hit on Oshie all the way up the ice as he was chasing him. Then, didn't really see an opportunity and kind of, well, just still ran into him however he could (in this case but first). Kind of a cheap shot, but that's what Joe will do when you piss him off......

 

[Bizz]

I love it when Caps fans whine about this play yet were adamant that Niskanen's headshot on Crosby during last year's playoffs was perfectly legal.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

I love it when Caps fans whine about this play yet were adamant that Niskanen's headshot on Crosby during last year's playoffs was perfectly legal.

And are perfectly fine with having human trash can Tom Wilson on their team...the hypocrisy is real