GDT: Sharks at Flames; November 12th

[MarkGio]

Can anyone tell me why the Flames let Scott Hannan walk away? Too big? Too cheap? Too physical? I loved Hannans' game tonight. I hated that he was playing for the Sharks.

He never played like that for us. Sarich didn't either

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

He never played like that for us. Sarich didn't either

Sarich didn't play for us period in his last two season

 

[tmurfin]

Can anyone tell me why the Flames let Scott Hannan walk away? Too big? Too cheap? Too physical? I loved Hannans' game tonight. I hated that he was playing for the Sharks.

Too slow, too much of a non factor night in, night out.. He was alright tonight, wouldn't say I was overly impressed

 

[Guido Sarducci]

Too slow, too much of a non factor night in, night out.. He was alright tonight, wouldn't say I was overly impressed

Ya, the Sharks were not nearly as impressive as the rebuilding Flames.

 

[FLAMES666]

If he's going to play like this for us, I want him on our team. Prospects only take a team so far, at some point you need top end talented players that bring leadership. I'll take him if he wants to stay.

These would be the key words. If their is no extension signed before the deadline you have to deal him.

 

[Hand of Gaudreau]

On the plus side, Berra, amiright? Looks like there's some truth behind the nickname 'The Wall'. I also liked that in his post game interview, he acknowledged his glaring deficiencies and is actively working on them. If he gets his rebound control under wraps, which one can only assume he will, he is going to be a stud for us.

 

[MarkGio]

On the plus side, Berra, amiright? Looks like there's some truth behind the nickname 'The Wall'. I also liked that in his post game interview, he acknowledged his glaring deficiencies and is actively working on them. If he gets his rebound control under wraps, which one can only assume he will, he is going to be a stud for us.

Yes Berra has a lot of promise. I even think Ramo has a decent game. He played very well against Colorado. Considering how our roster is subpar to the elite teams, both guys have performed well. Having both those two push each other will serve this team well going forward. Maybe one will become a legit starter under a better roster?

 

[AfricanHerbsman]

Missed the game last night, was working. Can anybody tell me how smid played? Is he a liability? Better then butler or OB?

 

[MarkGio]

These would be the key words. If their is no extension signed before the deadline you have to deal him.

Yes. Still, I'd be ok with dealing him anyways. Yes he's got scoring talent, but he's small and plays a position the Flames have depth in. Even if he wants to stay, I would still consider offers that are too good to refuse

 

[Hand of Gaudreau]

Yes. Still, I'd be ok with dealing him anyways. Yes he's got scoring talent, but he's small and plays a position the Flames have depth in. Even if he wants to stay, I would still consider offers that are too good to refuse

Isn't that the case for literally every player on our roster, with the exception of possibly Monohan?

 

[Anglesmith]

Isn't that the case for literally every player on our roster, with the exception of possibly Monohan?

It's a tautology, and you can even include Monahan in that.

 

[MarkGio]

Isn't that the case for literally every player on our roster, with the exception of possibly Monohan?

Nobody is going to give up Crosby + Malkin for a couple depth players. Obviously offers literally too good to refuse apply to everyone. I meant it as a phrase that would describe an offer that over values Cammy.

 

[Hand of Gaudreau]

Nobody is going to give up Crosby + Malkin for a couple depth players. Obviously offers literally too good to refuse apply to everyone. I meant it as a phrase that would describe an offer that over values Cammy.

What about an offer that values Cammo fairly?

 

[MarkGio]

What about an offer that values Cammo fairly?

Like it was said, Cammy is the only legit 1st player on our roster, making his value to us greater than relative market value. Losing him for fair value applies a large pressure to the rest of the team and therefore creates challenges to the organization. He has indirect value to our club only.

 

[Anglesmith]

I'm going to start a thread for Cammy discussion.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Like it was said, Cammy is the only legit 1st player on our roster, making his value to us greater than relative market value. Losing him for fair value applies a large pressure to the rest of the team and therefore creates challenges to the organization. He has indirect value to our club only.

Great points MarkGio, and it is an excellent debate

 

[TheHudlinator]

We were clearly lucky to get a point last night and that is all thanks to Berra. But at least its 1 more point than the Oilers have without Smid

Smid had an alright game but like most defensive defenseman you won't notice them if they are playing well.

I think Backlund had a mediocre game offensively. I think as we pass Christmas the "core" of the team moving forward will be chosen and I think we will see a lot of moves to be made. I think one of Backlund or Stajan will be gone, as well as one of Stempniak or GlenX (I would assume Stempniak) will be gone, I think most of our bottom pairing guys will be available (SOB, Butler, Smith) as well as 4th liners outside of Bouma.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

We were clearly lucky to get a point last night and that is all thanks to Berra. But at least its 1 more point than the Oilers have without Smid

Smid had an alright game but like most defensive defenseman you won't notice them if they are playing well.

I think Backlund had a mediocre game offensively. I think as we pass Christmas the "core" of the team moving forward will be chosen and I think we will see a lot of moves to be made. I think one of Backlund or Stajan will be gone, as well as one of Stempniak or GlenX (I would assume Stempniak) will be gone, I think most of our bottom pairing guys will be available (SOB, Butler, Smith) as well as 4th liners outside of Bouma.

I agree with all these points.

 

[DCDM]

I think Backlund had a mediocre game offensively. I think as we pass Christmas the "core" of the team moving forward will be chosen and I think we will see a lot of moves to be made. I think one of Backlund or Stajan will be gone, as well as one of Stempniak or GlenX (I would assume Stempniak) will be gone, I think most of our bottom pairing guys will be available (SOB, Butler, Smith) as well as 4th liners outside of Bouma.

I agree with all of this.

To pose a question to you guys, would you rather see the Flames trade Backlund or Stajan? Recently, I'm leaning more towards trading Backlund.

 

[TheHudlinator]

I agree with all of this.

To pose a question to you guys, would you rather see the Flames trade Backlund or Stajan? Recently, I'm leaning more towards trading Backlund.

I'd rather trade Backlund for 2 reasons

a) I believe he will have higher value because he is signed next year and for cheap as well as being young enough some teams could see him as having a higher ceiling than Stajan

b) Stajan is better and is a leader off ice

 

[MarkGio]

I agree with all of this.

To pose a question to you guys, would you rather see the Flames trade Backlund or Stajan? Recently, I'm leaning more towards trading Backlund.

Whoever is worth more.

 

[Anglesmith]

Whoever is worth more.

I agree with this. Personally, I believe other teams will probably value Stajan more given he's proven more. I feel like if we trade Backlund we'll be taken advantage of.

 

[Calculon]

So the Flames version of rebuilding means keeping the vets and trading away the younger players. That's certainly a novel way of doing things.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Backlund and Stajan are pretty similar players. Neither is going to return a key piece to our rebuild in a trade either.

By the time we are competitive Stajan will be 32-33, while Backlund should be entering his prime.

I would move Stajan.

 

[TheHudlinator]

So the Flames version of rebuilding means keeping the vets and trading away the younger players. That's certainly a novel way of doing things.

Moving 1 3rd liner isn't going to make or break the rebuild and I think it's best for both backlund and the team if we move backlund