Pre-Game Talk: SENS in St.Louis tonight 8:00pm on TSN

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Pierre from Orleans

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Sigh, can we please try not to make everything so black and white?

We're certainly not a "one goal away from the finals" team, but we aren't a bottom feeder either. We're a bubble team having a terrible year under terrible coaching.
No one said they were a bottom feeder. I'm saying last year was an aberration which it was.
 

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it's obvious Karlsson wants to play with Dahlin and Melnyk has grand plans for us to have 1-2 superstar swede punch on the D line

you all just don't have the hockey IQs to see it
 
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You were responding to someone who said this particular season, which is bottom-feeder-like, was more likely the norm.
Well I should've cut off what I didn't intend to respond to. They probably aren't perennial bottom feeders (maybe though? Without Karlsson being Karlsson) but last year was definitely an aberration
 

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We've been shutout 8 times this year. Colorado was shutout 12 last year. As far as I can tell, the modern NHL record is 16 by Columbus in 2007.
 

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Ryan tries to help us win games? Since when?

Since day 1. He might be the least selfish player on this team, comes to the rink every night and does everything you can ask of him. They had a shift together starting at 15:45 in the 3rd, good example of what I'm talking about with both players.

Ryan comes across the ice to support the breakout, crosses centre ice and is kept to the outside, gains the zone while fending on two checkers. Meanwhile Hoffman is 80 feet across the ice just waiting from Ryan to get him the puck. Ryan has one play to put the puck around the boards behind the net to the opposite corner. Hoffman stands there with his dick in his hand until the puck is already behind the net and doesn't even get within 10 feet of the third blues player. The guy is waiting for an 80 foot backhand pass, you'll be waiting all f***ing day for that.

Play continues down the ice towards to Ottawa's end because Hoffman couldn't apply any pressure to Edmundson. Blues get the puck deep, Chabot sends it up to wall to Ryan who can't control the puck because as he fights off a blue. Puck squirts to Blues defensemen who attempts a shot but Ryan gets a stick on it. Puck lands next to Sbokotka who fires it on net. Karlsson picks its up in the corner. Throws a hail marry to Hoffman who is first to the puck in the corner but he is so far ahead of the play he has no support, rather than taking contact and letting support arrive he throws it up the wall and jumps out of the way of potential contact. Blues are first to the puck but Chabot is able to hold the zone. Puck goes to Hoffman who surprisingly rolls of contact to get the puck but is immediately closed off and looses the puck. Brassard regains possession, puck ends up at the point. Chabot tries to throw one across the ice but no senators are there. Hoffman now dead tired, glides infront of the blues crease as the blues gain control in the corner, puck starts to move up ice, white forces a reverse back into the corner. Hoffman turns around continues gliding with on an attempted forecheck with his stick at his waist as the Blues make a pass infront of him to the weak side for an easy zone exit. Hoffman glides off the ice.

It's a constant theme. Hoffman has all the talent but couldn't give a f*** about the winning a hockey game.
 
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Since day 1. He might be the least selfish player on this team, comes to the rink every night and does everything you can ask of him. They had a shift together starting at 15:45 in the 3rd, good example of what I'm talking about with both players.

Ryan comes across the ice to support the breakout, crosses centre ice and is kept to the outside, gains the zone while fending on two checkers. Meanwhile Hoffman is 80 feet across the ice just waiting from Ryan to get him the puck. Ryan has one play to put the puck around the boards behind the net to the opposite corner. Hoffman stands there with his dick in his hand until the puck is already behind the net and doesn't even get within 10 feet of the third blues player. The guy is waiting for an 80 foot backhand pass, you'll be waiting all ****ing day for that.

Play continues down the ice towards to Ottawa's end because Hoffman couldn't apply any pressure to Edmundson. Blues get the puck deep, Chabot sends it up to wall to Ryan who can't control the puck because as he fights off a blue. Puck squirts to Blues defensemen who attempts a shot but Ryan gets a stick on it. Puck lands next to Sbokotka who fires it on net. Karlsson picks its up in the corner. Throws a hail marry to Hoffman who is first to the puck in the corner but he is so far ahead of the play he has no support, rather than taking contact and letting support arrive he throws it up the wall and jumps out of the way of potential contact. Blues are first to the puck but Chabot is able to hold the zone. Puck goes to Hoffman who surprisingly rolls of contact to get the puck but is immediately closed off and looses the puck. Brassard regains possession, puck ends up at the point. Chabot tries to throw one across the ice but no senators are there. Hoffman now dead tired, glides infront of the blues crease as the blues gain control in the corner, puck starts to move up ice, white forces a reverse back into the corner. Hoffman turns around continues gliding with on an attempted forecheck with his stick at his waist as the Blues make a pass infront of him to the weak side for an easy zone exit. Hoffman glides off the ice.

It's a constant theme. Hoffman has all the talent but couldn't give a **** about the winning a hockey game.
What an awful post. Hoffman is the better player and makes this team better. Period.
 
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It’s such a vague idea.

Yo this guy tries to help us win and that guy doesn’t! Yes one is producing more than the other? So if he actually wasn’t trying to help us win how on earth could he possible ever score a point lmao
It’s mental gymnastics man, go look at what they’re saying about Burrows as well.
 
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Since day 1. He might be the least selfish player on this team, comes to the rink every night and does everything you can ask of him. They had a shift together starting at 15:45 in the 3rd, good example of what I'm talking about with both players.

Ryan comes across the ice to support the breakout, crosses centre ice and is kept to the outside, gains the zone while fending on two checkers. Meanwhile Hoffman is 80 feet across the ice just waiting from Ryan to get him the puck. Ryan has one play to put the puck around the boards behind the net to the opposite corner. Hoffman stands there with his dick in his hand until the puck is already behind the net and doesn't even get within 10 feet of the third blues player. The guy is waiting for an 80 foot backhand pass, you'll be waiting all ****ing day for that.

Play continues down the ice towards to Ottawa's end because Hoffman couldn't apply any pressure to Edmundson. Blues get the puck deep, Chabot sends it up to wall to Ryan who can't control the puck because as he fights off a blue. Puck squirts to Blues defensemen who attempts a shot but Ryan gets a stick on it. Puck lands next to Sbokotka who fires it on net. Karlsson picks its up in the corner. Throws a hail marry to Hoffman who is first to the puck in the corner but he is so far ahead of the play he has no support, rather than taking contact and letting support arrive he throws it up the wall and jumps out of the way of potential contact. Blues are first to the puck but Chabot is able to hold the zone. Puck goes to Hoffman who surprisingly rolls of contact to get the puck but is immediately closed off and looses the puck. Brassard regains possession, puck ends up at the point. Chabot tries to throw one across the ice but no senators are there. Hoffman now dead tired, glides infront of the blues crease as the blues gain control in the corner, puck starts to move up ice, white forces a reverse back into the corner. Hoffman turns around continues gliding with on an attempted forecheck with his stick at his waist as the Blues make a pass infront of him to the weak side for an easy zone exit. Hoffman glides off the ice.

It's a constant theme. Hoffman has all the talent but couldn't give a **** about the winning a hockey game.

What a stupid post Pierre Dorion. Your love for shitty players like Ryan is what got us in this mess in the first place. [mod: be nice]
 
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Certain kind of players you want on a hockey team. Bobby Ryan is one of them, Mike Hoffman is not.
God no. Bobby Ryan is cancer. You can't win with these slow plodding forwards. He can't score, he can't hang onto the puck and he can't motivate himself to get the **** in the gym to fix his slowassedness.
 
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it's obvious Karlsson wants to play with Dahlin and Melnyk has grand plans for us to have 1-2 superstar swede punch on the D line

you all just don't have the hockey IQs to see it

At this point that might actually be a plausible argument...
 

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I agree that Hoffman does way too many fly bys. No one is asking him to lay the body, cross-check the shit out of someone or fight. Just engage more. Edge people out using your frame. Forecheck a bit harder. Doesn't have to be all the time but more often than he does now. Itll help his teammates and the team.
 

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It’s such a vague idea.

Yo this guy tries to help us win and that guy doesn’t! Yes one is producing more than the other? So if he actually wasn’t trying to help us win how on earth could he possible ever score a point lmao

Not saying Hoffman's offense doesn't help win games, but to me he's not actively trying to do the things that will help you win games. This is a player who will try and swat down a rim rather than get his ass against the boards and stop that puck. It's only because that puck is gonna end up in his feet and he's going to have to take a hit. It's selfish.
 
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