LeBrun: Sens and Pageau have begun contract talks

[Artanis]

Dreger literally just reported they're no where close at all too lol.

 

[Langdon Alger]

pageau can easily get 2 seconds. If he wants to sign in ottawa anyway it would much better to trade him and then sign him again.

But I can understand why a dorion supporter can't comprehend that.

since when am I a Dorion supporter guy? Look, it just doesn’t happen very often that a guy gets traded and then comes back in the summer. I’ve been following the nhl for over 25 years, and I can’t think of that many times that it’s happened. A lot easier said than done.

if you trade him you have to accept he might not come back. You ok with that?

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Good tactic to try to drive his price higher. Give off the perception that you want to keep him, hopefully someone ups their offer.

 

[Michoulicious]

No way Dorion keeps him. It's only to save appearances and try to increase the return.

You don't start negotiating with a guy you want to keep 4 days before the trade deadline.

Pageau is 100000000% gone. Just don't think he'll get the haul Sens management wants.

 

[sens13]

since when am I a Dorion supporter guy? Look, it just doesn’t happen very often that a guy gets traded and then comes back in the summer. I’ve been following the nhl for over 25 years, and I can’t think of that many times that it’s happened. A lot easier said than done.

if you trade him you have to accept he might not come back. You ok with that?

with the way the sens prospects are developing and the fact that they will be adding 2 top 5-10 picks this summer I would be totally fine even if he doesn't come back

This is an outlier season for him. He's a solid 35 point centre but that's it. I don't want the sens to have to tie up $5 mil+ for him over 5 to 6 years rather than spending some of that money on the younger players.

 

[Langdon Alger]

with the way the sens prospects are developing and the fact that they will be adding 2 top 5-10 picks this summer I would be totally fine even if he doesn't come back

This is an outlier season for him. He's a solid 35 point centre but that's it. I don't want the sens to have to tie up $5 mil+ for him over 5 to 6 years rather than spending some of that money on the younger players.

That’s fine with me if he doesn’t come back, assuming he gets a good return in a trade. I was just responding to the fact that you seemed to think it was a forgone conclusion he’d come back in July. He might, he might not. It’s a gamble. That’s all.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

because you need actual players. look at whats happening in detroit and what happened in edmonton. completely tanking isnt going to make young players develop as well.

pageau is a great player to have around to play tougher minutes and be a veteran for their rebuilding team. if they arent getting a good enough return, miswell keep him

Yup.. they gotta keep him.. honestly what good is another possible 1st and or prospect for the Sens... they need Pageau around.. he is perfect to have.

I mean that is obviously if Pageau is reasonable with him demands.. heck maybe he thinks he can demand a massive insane amount seeing that he sees others getting massive contracts... then obviously Sens would have to consider a trade

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

because you need actual players. look at whats happening in detroit and what happened in edmonton. completely tanking isnt going to make young players develop as well.

pageau is a great player to have around to play tougher minutes and be a veteran for their rebuilding team. if they arent getting a good enough return, miswell keep him

Usually they start contracts talks in order to agree to and then sign a contract.

Wow, that's new to me Overtimed...

They can get a 1st for him with some luck. 24 goals, 40-point already and the team is going nowhere. If he really likes Ottawa he can sign during the summer...

 

[coopooter]

They should keep him
Even if they overpay a bit

 

[SpezDispenser]

Lol, typical Ottawa. Let's start negotiating with....4 days to the deadline.

What were we doing the other 7 months we could have signed him? Who knows.

 

[benjiv1]

Lol, typical Ottawa. Let's start negotiating with....4 days to the deadline.

What were we doing the other 7 months we could have signed him? Who knows.

I think the answer to that is, what if Brown and White didn’t suck this year?

The Sens took the wait and see approach, hopefully if they want to keep him, they can get a deal done.

 

[SpezDispenser]

I think the answer to that is, what if Brown and White didn’t suck this year?

The Sens took the wait and see approach, hopefully if they want to keep him, they can get a deal done.

I mean...why not start negotiations in December? I feel like they treat this like a game - how long can we go until we suddenly get frantic and try to hammer it out! It's exciting, until it doesnt work, which is quite often.

But yes, I agree for the first few months they wanted to see if Pageau had rehabbed properly and was gonna get back to himself and they wanted to test Brown etc.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Lol, typical Ottawa. Let's start negotiating with....4 days to the deadline.

What were we doing the other 7 months we could have signed him? Who knows.

according to Dorion, contracts can get done pretty quickly.

 

[SpezDispenser]

according to Dorion, contracts can get done pretty quickly.

We all know that can backfire. I assume it can be done while on the phone on the crapper though. 4 x 4? No. 4 x 5? No. 4.5 x 5? ...sure.

 

[Langdon Alger]

We all know that can backfire. I assume it can be done while on the phone on the crapper though. 4 x 4? No. 4 x 5? No. 4.5 x 5? ...sure.

sure, but who knows how close they are on money and term at this point?

 

[Michoulicious]

I mean...why not start negotiations in December? I feel like they treat this like a game - how long can we go until we suddenly get frantic and try to hammer it out! It's exciting, until it doesnt work, which is quite often.

But yes, I agree for the first few months they wanted to see if Pageau had rehabbed properly and was gonna get back to himself and they wanted to test Brown etc.

They don't really want to sign him. It's just to try to increase the return. It's obvious.

 

[SpezDispenser]

sure, but who knows how close they are on money and term at this point?

I think we'll get a fair idea tonight. I assume they know if they can sign him or not - even if they're kinda leaving it to the 11th hour.

 

[SpezDispenser]

They don't really want to sign him. It's just to try to increase the return. It's obvious.

Maybe. I have to admit, opening up negotiations 4 days before the deadline is pretty suspicious.

On the other hand, if they've only got 2nd round pick and fringe prospect they might try harder to sign him now.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Maybe. I have to admit, opening up negotiations 4 days before the deadline is pretty suspicious.

On the other hand, if they've only got 2nd round pick and fringe prospect they might try harder to sign him now.

yeah, it’s possible they misread the market and figured they would get more. Maybe the offers are underwhelming and they are trying to sign him instead.

 

[Ouroboros]

Both Dreger and Garrioch have said that the Sens are willing to keep Pageau past the deadline even if they don't have an extension in place.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Both Dreger and Garrioch have said that the Sens are willing to keep Pageau past the deadline even if they don't have an extension in place.

Would be incredibly stupid, but right in line with what people should expect of Sens management.

 

[Cynick]

1. Negotiate contract extension
2. Identify Pageau's preferred team for a playoff run
3. Trade Pageau to preferred team for reduced price (doing right by him)
4. Re-sign on July 1st

 

[Hockeyplayer99]

yeah, but was that close to the deadline? Duchene got traded mid game too, but that was a game in early November. This time of year you see more guys sit out just to be safe.

Only the Rangers play guys they are trading to the last day. Not the smartest GMs here.