Second Time Around
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Teemu Selanne is a good example of a player who re-kindled his earlier success on a second go-around with a team (Anaheim).
Ted Donato
For a few seasons, Ted was a great secondary player for the Bruins. However, after his cowardice incident with Rich Pilon, his career plummeted quickly leading to a trade to the NYI for Ken Belanger. A couple of teams and seasons later, Ted resigns with the Bruins and serves as a competent penalty killer, on and off-ice leader, and dependable fourth line center. His injury in the first game of the 04' playoffs played an important part in the Bruins losing to the Canadiens.
For a few seasons, Ted was a great secondary player for the Bruins. However, after his cowardice incident with Rich Pilon, his career plummeted quickly leading to a trade to the NYI for Ken Belanger. A couple of teams and seasons later, Ted resigns with the Bruins and serves as a competent penalty killer, on and off-ice leader, and dependable fourth line center. His injury in the first game of the 04' playoffs played an important part in the Bruins losing to the Canadiens.
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Perhaps
Perhaps. Had he stayed with Anaheim all along the expectations might have been different - a leadership, elder statesman type role. Jean Beliveau, Steve Yzerman, Joe Sakic, type ending to a career.
Perhaps. Had he stayed with Anaheim all along the expectations might have been different - a leadership, elder statesman type role. Jean Beliveau, Steve Yzerman, Joe Sakic, type ending to a career.
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Most players who have returned to the Devils after long absences have been tremendous disappointments.
Mogilny and Malakhov were contributors to the 2000 Stanley Cup, but when they returned to the team after the lockout, they were past their primes and terrible.
Same for Brian Rolston, member of the 1995 Cup, returned post-prime and his been lazy and terrible.
Exception - Claude Lemieux traded after the 1995 Smyth-winning performance over a contract dispute (in the same trade that brought Wendel Clark back to the Leafs I believe). The Devils didn't go anywhere in the playoffs in his absence. Traded away Rolston to bring him back in 2000 - and he was a missing piece as the team finally returning to playoff glory.
Mogilny and Malakhov were contributors to the 2000 Stanley Cup, but when they returned to the team after the lockout, they were past their primes and terrible.
Same for Brian Rolston, member of the 1995 Cup, returned post-prime and his been lazy and terrible.
Exception - Claude Lemieux traded after the 1995 Smyth-winning performance over a contract dispute (in the same trade that brought Wendel Clark back to the Leafs I believe). The Devils didn't go anywhere in the playoffs in his absence. Traded away Rolston to bring him back in 2000 - and he was a missing piece as the team finally returning to playoff glory.
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Interesting subgroup. Those who left the NHL for the WHA and then returned to their last NHL team. Add Gerry Cheevers, Rejean Houle, some others.
Interesting subgroup. Those who left the NHL for the WHA and then returned to their last NHL team. Add Gerry Cheevers, Rejean Houle, some others.
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Good thread to mention my all-time favorite player Igor Ulanov.
After bouncing around the league, Ulanov put together a great 2000-01 campaign with the Oilers. The Rangers threw a big wad of money at him that off-season, and the Oilers were sorry to see the gritty veteran go. Ulanov failed to continue his success in the Big Apple, and was shipped to Florida. He played out his contract in Miami, and found himself without an NHL job at the outset of the 2003-04 season.
The Oilers decided to throw him a bone, signing the 34-year-old to the Toronto Roadrunners in the AHL. After 10 games in the minors, an injury on the Edmonton defense opened the door for his return to the NHL. After admitting to the press that leaving Edmonton was a huge mistake, "The Mangler" picked up right where he had left off three years ago, and proceeded to anchor the Oilers blue line for the remaining 42 games of the schedule. Ulanov managed to lead the entire team in plus minus (plus-19 in just half a season!) and was the highest scoring Oiler defensemen over the remainder of the schedule. (As an aside, the Oilers missed the playoffs by two points that year. If Ulanov is brought in a week sooner, they're in.)
Ulanov took on a reduced playing role after the lockout as age and the changing rules began to slow him. Nonetheless, he remained an important leader in practice and off the ice. During the Oilers' unexpected run to the Stanley Cup final, Ulanov formed a dinner club, selecting certain individuals at various times during the playoffs as a means of relaxing some of the pressure and providing motivation and advice when he felt it was required. Georges Laraque was quoted as saying something along the lines of: "If we win the Cup, Igor should be the first guy to get it after Jason Smith (the captain), he's been that important to us."
Alas, the Oilers and Igor came up a game short. It would have been a storybook ending to the NHL career of one of the all-time unsung heroes.
After bouncing around the league, Ulanov put together a great 2000-01 campaign with the Oilers. The Rangers threw a big wad of money at him that off-season, and the Oilers were sorry to see the gritty veteran go. Ulanov failed to continue his success in the Big Apple, and was shipped to Florida. He played out his contract in Miami, and found himself without an NHL job at the outset of the 2003-04 season.
The Oilers decided to throw him a bone, signing the 34-year-old to the Toronto Roadrunners in the AHL. After 10 games in the minors, an injury on the Edmonton defense opened the door for his return to the NHL. After admitting to the press that leaving Edmonton was a huge mistake, "The Mangler" picked up right where he had left off three years ago, and proceeded to anchor the Oilers blue line for the remaining 42 games of the schedule. Ulanov managed to lead the entire team in plus minus (plus-19 in just half a season!) and was the highest scoring Oiler defensemen over the remainder of the schedule. (As an aside, the Oilers missed the playoffs by two points that year. If Ulanov is brought in a week sooner, they're in.)
Ulanov took on a reduced playing role after the lockout as age and the changing rules began to slow him. Nonetheless, he remained an important leader in practice and off the ice. During the Oilers' unexpected run to the Stanley Cup final, Ulanov formed a dinner club, selecting certain individuals at various times during the playoffs as a means of relaxing some of the pressure and providing motivation and advice when he felt it was required. Georges Laraque was quoted as saying something along the lines of: "If we win the Cup, Igor should be the first guy to get it after Jason Smith (the captain), he's been that important to us."
Alas, the Oilers and Igor came up a game short. It would have been a storybook ending to the NHL career of one of the all-time unsung heroes.
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I, too, loved Ulanov. He and Joe Reekie are two mighty underrated stay at home defensemen.
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brianscot
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Boston traded Ken Linseman back to Philadelphia for Dave Poulin in 1990.
He also ended up for another year in Edmonton.
He also ended up for another year in Edmonton.
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Martin Straka had a successful comeback, after the Penguins did what any team would do with a speedy, 21 y/o 30 goal scorer... trade him for a mediocre defenseman pushing 30 and a washed up forward. One of the first of many brilliant trades (Zubov, Murphy, Naslund, any goalie not named Barrasso) that showed the Pens' commitment to homegrown forwards, quality defensemen, and promising young goalies throughout the mid-late '90s.
Straka scored over half of his goals and points in Pittsburgh, and had his career bests in goals and points during his second stint there.
Straka scored over half of his goals and points in Pittsburgh, and had his career bests in goals and points during his second stint there.
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First guy that came to mind when trying to think of a time where it actually was a good move to reacquire someone for a second stint was Ron Francis. We all know his first run was in Hartford and the second in Carolina, but I think it still qualifies since it was the same franchise.
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Except he wasn't traded, he left via FA, over a money tiff. A better example would be that of Alex Kovalev who was traded to Pitt, blossomed, was traded back to the Rangers and returned to his enigmatic ways.
raleh
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First name to come to mind for me was Howie Morenz' return to Montreal after some time in Chicago.
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Some for the rangers in recent years:
-Petr Nedved's second go around with the rangers was solid, one of the few bright spots during the dark years in the late 90s, early 2000s
-Martin Rucinsky had 3 stints with the rangers, and did pretty well in each (IIRC)
-Jan Hlavac's second stint was god awful
-Alex Kovalev was also a very big disappointment
-Petr Nedved's second go around with the rangers was solid, one of the few bright spots during the dark years in the late 90s, early 2000s
-Martin Rucinsky had 3 stints with the rangers, and did pretty well in each (IIRC)
-Jan Hlavac's second stint was god awful
-Alex Kovalev was also a very big disappointment
TheDevilMadeMe
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Oh, well in that case, Malahkov and Mogilny don't count for the Devils.
I guess this thread is technically about players who were traded, but I really don't see the difference between why they left. I thought the interesting thing was that they were brought back and that most players who are brought back tend to be disappointments (with some notable exceptions).
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Two exceptions to the rule, valuable 'role' players both the first and the second time around.
Jim Roberts - two Cups with the Habs in '65 and '66, taken by the Blues in the expansion draft in '67, traded back to the Habs in the fall of '71, three more Cups with the Habs in '73, '76, and '77.
Claude Larose - three Cups with the Habs in '65, '66, and '68, traded to the North Stars in June '68, traded back to the Habs in June '70, two more Cups with the Habs in '71 and '73.
Jim Roberts - two Cups with the Habs in '65 and '66, taken by the Blues in the expansion draft in '67, traded back to the Habs in the fall of '71, three more Cups with the Habs in '73, '76, and '77.
Claude Larose - three Cups with the Habs in '65, '66, and '68, traded to the North Stars in June '68, traded back to the Habs in June '70, two more Cups with the Habs in '71 and '73.
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Scotty Bowman
Both played for Peterborough and Scotty Bowman in the late 1950's.
Jim Roberts had a stretch of 6 SC Finals at the start of his career - first full seven NHL seasons 1965-70 and continued helping the Canadiens make the finals in the 1970's.
Both had a niche as 3-4 line RWs with the Canadiens.
Both played for Peterborough and Scotty Bowman in the late 1950's.
Jim Roberts had a stretch of 6 SC Finals at the start of his career - first full seven NHL seasons 1965-70 and continued helping the Canadiens make the finals in the 1970's.
Both had a niche as 3-4 line RWs with the Canadiens.
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My chance to throw in my favourite player, Wendell Young ... Pittsburgh Penguins. Mind you, the return to the Pit was for a mere 10 games but helped keep Pitt in the race with Barrasso out till mid-first round of the playoffs.
