GDT: Seattle Kraken Draft & Trades II - 8 PM ESPN2, SN, TVAS

[UncleRico]

I would be stunned if the kraken took zboril. Sounds like leach would have his fingerprints all over that one. I think the unprotected list of LHD is much stronger than RHD. I originally thought Lauzon would be selected, but maybe if they aren’t taking clifton they have trades/free agents lined up for RHD.

 

[Gee Wally]

I will. Thank you. Any idea what page(s) in the the Kracken thread?

bad in room, so much so Wild going to take biggest hit in history buying them out just to get rid of them.
Suter and Parise.

Plus there’s articles in other threads essentially saying the same.

Bill Guerin Chose Cap Hell Over "Uncoachable" Ryan Suter and Zach Parise

start here on page 16 if you got time.

Player Discussion - Your roster changes for next year V

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

To me, anyone but Lauzon.

Not that Cliffy is anything special, but I'm of the opposite opinion. I hope its Lauzon but it feel it wont be.

 

[DKH]

Zboril actually kind of makes sense if you think about it. He's got the highest offensive ceiling of the 3 defensemen options. Frankly, none of the Bruins expansion options are particularly good, so if you're Seattle, just go with the one with the highest ceiling, unless you can line up a trade for another one.

Exactly and throw in what Leach said about Zboril and what I believe he privately thinks of Cassidy handling their development

I actually think Cassidy did a good job with Zboril but overall with young players he could have been better

 

[GordonHowe]

bad in room, so much so Wild going to take biggest hit in history buying them out just to get rid of them.
Suter and Parise.

Plus there’s articles in other threads essentially saying the same.

Bill Guerin Chose Cap Hell Over "Uncoachable" Ryan Suter and Zach Parise

Wow. Thank you. I never knew. In your opinion, if this is out there, will the Bruins pursue Suter? If not, is there anyone -- anyone -- out there they might bring in? They have nothing on D.

Oy!

 

[Bodit9]

I’ll start off thread with not surprised if Zboril is picked as being reported

Leach likes and he’s more a complete player than Lauzon

I read Matt Porter 3 part series assessing the type of players Frederic DeBrusk Ritchie Zboril Lauzon & Clifton are and only one he was off on - and off was Zboril

best scenario for everyone and especially Zboril is go to Seattle

simplifies the Bruins D big time

right side set but a 4th guy and left side needs only 1 top 2 pair with Vaakanainen being 4th

nice and neat

Zboril being chosen would be a pretty big win for the Bs.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Exactly and throw in what Leach said about Zboril and what I believe he privately thinks of Cassidy handling their development

I actually think Cassidy did a good job with Zboril but overall with young players he could have been better

I hope the Bruins told Leach to absorb as much NHL coaching experience that he can. If and when Cassidy gets the boot call Leach's cell and hire him to run the show in Boston.

 

[smithformeragent]

bad in room, so much so Wild going to take biggest hit in history buying them out just to get rid of them.
Suter and Parise.

Plus there’s articles in other threads essentially saying the same.

Bill Guerin Chose Cap Hell Over "Uncoachable" Ryan Suter and Zach Parise

start here on page 16 if you got time.

Player Discussion - Your roster changes for next year V

There’s some good stuff over on the Wild board as well.

I may have lurked last night.

 

[Gee Wally]

Wow. Thank you. I never knew. In your opinion, if this is out there, will the Bruins pursue Suter? If not, is there anyone -- anyone -- out there they might bring in? They have nothing on D.

Oy!

I think the consensus is the Bruins if interested had really better do the due diligence.
Talk to former teamates, coaches, etc..

I havent heard anything else about D interests. That may change tomorrow with the expansion draft.

 

[Gee Wally]

Exactly and throw in what Leach said about Zboril and what I believe he privately thinks of Cassidy handling their development

I actually think Cassidy did a good job with Zboril but overall with young players he could have been better

to me Leach is the key to all of this.
Regardless of what any of us here think of the list.
They wouldnt have hired him if they didnt trust his opinion.

Does he think one of them would make a solid Kraken?
Does he think one of them is worth more flipped?

Damn if I know.

 

[yazmybaby]

bad in room, so much so Wild going to take biggest hit in history buying them out just to get rid of them.
Suter and Parise.

Plus there’s articles in other threads essentially saying the same.

Bill Guerin Chose Cap Hell Over "Uncoachable" Ryan Suter and Zach Parise

start here on page 16 if you got time.

Player Discussion - Your roster changes for next year V

"Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you see."
I do not pay attention to any of this crap that you hear about players being " bad" in the room.
For people that have played rep hockey / junior or higher what goes on in the room / stays in the room.
Good teams with good coaches work all this stuff out.

 

[DKH]

to me Leach is the key to all of this.
Regardless of what any of us here think of the list.
They wouldnt have hired him if they didnt trust his opinion.

Does he think one of them would make a solid Kraken?
Does he think one of them is worth more flipped?

Damn if I know.

Yes and he’s quoted in Boston Globe article written by Matt Porter a few days ago


‘Chance Seattle takes him: Moderate. A vote from Zboril’s coach in Providence, new Kraken assistant Jay Leach, could help. Reviewing Zboril’s season in May 2020, Leach said he grew into the AHL Bruins’ best overall backliner. “His ability to move the puck cleanly,” Leach said, “there’s not many who can do it at our level.”

 

[Gee Wally]

"Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you see."
I do not pay attention to any of this crap that you hear about players being " bad" in the room.
For people that have played rep hockey / junior or higher what goes on in the room / stays in the room.
Good teams with good coaches work all this stuff out.

you’re entitled to your belief.
I go by texts and emails I get to me from Asst GMs, writers, agents, scouts, etc..
Sometimes I pass it along. Sometimes I dont.
But Ill bet the farm that ‘stays in the room’ is inaccurate.

As a matter of fact we here at dear old HF have had as members former players and agents that were vetted and shared things from time to time.
So much so at times it went beyond guidelines. So I had to remove one . He played for both the Sabres and the Flyers.
And another,I still have emails and pictures, that brought an issue between two Bruins players. One player ended up requesting a trade. Ultimately he stayed while the other was traded. What went on was far too personal. I wouldnt let it stand here.

 

[GordonHowe]

I think the consensus is the Bruins if interested had really better do the due diligence.
Talk to former teamates, coaches, etc..

I havent heard anything else about D interests. That may change tomorrow with the expansion draft.

Thanks again. Whatever I think of Sweeney, he's an intelligent fellow and I'm certain he has done his homework.

On another note, from my perspective, it would be fantastic if the Kracken selected Zboril. They could keep both Clifton and Lauzon, and get rid of one of three 2015 busts.

I will let you go, but would you keep any of those three?

 

[Gee Wally]

Thanks again. Whatever I think of Sweeney, he's an intelligent fellow and I'm certain he has done his homework.

On another note, from my perspective, it would be fantastic if the Kracken selected Zboril. They could keep both Clifton and Lauzon, and get rid of one of three 2015 busts.

I will let you go, but would you keep any of those three?

I would, if Im Francis, let the rest of the league know Im open for business. Who wants to make bids on unprotected Bruins?

 

[GordonHowe]

I would, if Im Francis, let the rest of the league know Im open for business. Who wants to make bids on unprotected Bruins?

What I mean is, if you could trade or otherwise relieve the Bruins of those three players, would you?

I would. All three have underperformed. And if DeBrusk scored 27 goals a few years ago, he was maddengly inconsistant even then.

I'd get what I can, but it is past time the Bruins moved on.

 

[GordonHowe]

I would be stunned if the kraken took zboril. Sounds like leach would have his fingerprints all over that one. I think the unprotected list of LHD is much stronger than RHD. I originally thought Lauzon would be selected, but maybe if they aren’t taking clifton they have trades/free agents lined up for RHD.

I would be stunned and delighted.

 

[Gee Wally]

What I mean is, if you could trade or otherwise relieve the Bruins of those three players, would you?

I would. All three have underperformed. And if DeBrusk scored 27 goals a few years ago, he was maddengly inconsistant even then.

I'd get what I can, but it is past time the Bruins moved on.

if I can put JDB into a package that lands either a top 4 D or a top 6 Forward I do it without blinking an eye.

It may actually do the kid good too.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Exactly and throw in what Leach said about Zboril and what I believe he privately thinks of Cassidy handling their development

I actually think Cassidy did a good job with Zboril but overall with young players he could have been better

I would think Zboril would be the happiest guy in the room if he gets picked. He needs to get out of this org to reach his potential. They drafted the player, and then chose to try to change everything about him as a player.

 

[Bodit9]

He wouls be a perfect add
Suter - McAvoy
Lauzon - Carlo
Grzelcyk- Clifton
Vaakanainen

all over this 7

Lauzon - McAvoy
Martinez - Carlo
Grzelcyk- Clifton
Vaakanainen

 

[RustyBruins72]

Not that Cliffy is anything special, but I'm of the opposite opinion. I hope its Lauzon but it feel it wont be.

I want Cliffy and I want Lauzon. Ritchie would be my pick. I don't dislike him but I think Bruins would be OK without him.

 

[Fenian24]

"Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you see."
I do not pay attention to any of this crap that you hear about players being " bad" in the room.
For people that have played rep hockey / junior or higher what goes on in the room / stays in the room.
Good teams with good coaches work all this stuff out.

So the Bruins should avoid Suter like the Delta variant then.

 

[Absurdity]

In my opinion, Zboril has a higher ceiling than Lauzon. I wouldn't be surprised if he's chosen, but I still think it will be Clifton.

Lauzon also isn't a top pairing defenseman. Many here think Grzelcyk isn't a top 4D yet Grzelcyk and McAvoy as a pairing is statistically better than a Lauzon McAvoy pairing where McAvoy did most of the heavy lifting.

 

[dredeye]

you’re entitled to your belief.
I go by texts and emails I get to me from Asst GMs, writers, agents, scouts, etc..
Sometimes I pass it along. Sometimes I dont.
But Ill bet the farm that ‘stays in the room’ is inaccurate.

As a matter of fact we here at dear old HF have had as members former players and agents that were vetted and shared things from time to time.
So much so at times it went beyond guidelines. So I had to remove one . He played for both the Sabres and the Flyers.
And another,I still have emails and pictures, that brought an issue between two Bruins players. One player ended up requesting a trade. Ultimately he stayed while the other was traded. What went on was far too personal. I wouldnt let it stand here.

Yea I don’t get his statement. Sure an organization may want to keep things quiet so they can resolve or trade away the problem but this stuff does not always stay in the room. Players have slept with others wives. Like tonnes of stuff has happened and often finds its way out

 

[Gee Wally]

Yea I don’t get his statement. Sure an organization may want to keep things quiet so they can resolve or trade away the problem but this stuff does not always stay in the room. Players have slept with others wives. Like tonnes of stuff has happened and often finds its way out

yep, just ask Craig Janney.

or maybe best to leave sleeping dogs at rest…..