Value of: Sean Walker and Travis Konecny
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Two firsts and a prospect for konecny or top prospect and a late first. Hes a play driving first liner making 5mil for two years
Walker is definitely going hopefully for a first maybe a second but most likely a prospect
Walker is definitely going hopefully for a first maybe a second but most likely a prospect
34 yo Giroux returned Tippet + two 1sts and he was a rental. Konecny is 26 and has an extra year with a 5.5M caphit. I guess the price is gonna be really high.
Edit: 1st + 3rd, not two 1sts
Edit: 1st + 3rd, not two 1sts
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Breeze 44
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I don't see the Flyers moving TK... it's not good look to rid someone who has done everything asked of him to be a complete all around player, took on a leadership type of role and is top 3 player on team and young. I don't see that nor want that. Walker or Risto I can see ..Walker is probably or should probably bring a 1 and a prospect or a 2 and a with a better prospect at least.
Hockeypete49
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They do not want to move TK so for both start with 3 #1's and 2 A prospects.
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Djp
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I don’t think the Oilers realistically have what it would take to pry both of those pieces out of Philly in one deal.
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Walker will probably take a 2nd plus an asset, not sure he'll garner a 1st, he's having a good season on the 2nd pair but hasn't shown himself to be a 20+ minute guy, very good speed, decent offensive skill set, average defensively. Would fit a PO team that needs a puck moving D-man to pair with a more traditional LHD.
TK, uh, what PO team has a top center prospect that they'd part with? Flyers have (3) 1sts and (4) 2nds the next two drafts, they don't want two more late rd picks for a guy who'd be 29 when Michkov comes over and still in his peak years. Pay to play.
Seeler, Laughton and Hathaway are available. Seeler is a hard nosed stay at home type who's a top shot blocker (3rd), Laughton is struggling in Torts' new up tempo system, but 3LW, 4C, PK, PP2 - adds a lot of versatility for the right team. Centes are at a premium, so 2nd plus. Hathaway is a hard nosed 4RW who can move up to 3RW in a pinch, if you want to add some snarl.
TK, uh, what PO team has a top center prospect that they'd part with? Flyers have (3) 1sts and (4) 2nds the next two drafts, they don't want two more late rd picks for a guy who'd be 29 when Michkov comes over and still in his peak years. Pay to play.
Seeler, Laughton and Hathaway are available. Seeler is a hard nosed stay at home type who's a top shot blocker (3rd), Laughton is struggling in Torts' new up tempo system, but 3LW, 4C, PK, PP2 - adds a lot of versatility for the right team. Centes are at a premium, so 2nd plus. Hathaway is a hard nosed 4RW who can move up to 3RW in a pinch, if you want to add some snarl.
TheImpatientPanther
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Sorry, my bad. But I guess the price for Konecny still would be really high.
TheImpatientPanther
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You nearly gave Panthers fans PTSD thinking Zito emptied the whole 1st round clip on CG
All good. And yes I agree, TK could command a big haul and wouldn't be surprised if it was two 1sts or a 1st + A level prospect + something else.
hamzarocks
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From the leafs I would say cost for TK from the flyers would he
2024 1st + Easton Cowan + Bertuzzi for TK@50% retained
Cowan is having a monster D+1 year ajd is the best or top 3 player at worst in the OHL this year. Probably a top 25 propsect in the world
1st will be in 20s most likely which has its value
Bertuzzi is a cap piece which we move and flyers either sell or try to see if hes worth signing
Flyers retain 50% to maximize TKs value
I dont think the leafs should he making a deal like this but I project Konecny's value around this @50%
2024 1st + Easton Cowan + Bertuzzi for TK@50% retained
Cowan is having a monster D+1 year ajd is the best or top 3 player at worst in the OHL this year. Probably a top 25 propsect in the world
1st will be in 20s most likely which has its value
Bertuzzi is a cap piece which we move and flyers either sell or try to see if hes worth signing
Flyers retain 50% to maximize TKs value
I dont think the leafs should he making a deal like this but I project Konecny's value around this @50%
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Looking at two 1sts + top prospect for Konecny.
Looks like they are trying to re-sign him though.
Not even close. Bertuzzi has negative value this season and you're undervaluing the Retention.
Try 2024 1st, Knies, and Cowan if you want Konecny with 50% retention. You'd be getting a PPG player for under $3 million the rest of this season and ALL of next season.
Looks like they are trying to re-sign him though.
Not even close. Bertuzzi has negative value this season and you're undervaluing the Retention.
Try 2024 1st, Knies, and Cowan if you want Konecny with 50% retention. You'd be getting a PPG player for under $3 million the rest of this season and ALL of next season.
hamzarocks
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Naw he isnt bringin that much back
Look at Hagel trade. He got 2 1sts and a couple of bad prospects back @50%. Hagel is a bit worse than TK.
Cowan is an elite prospect right now, the best piece in most deals. If you dont want bertuzzi thats fine. Leafa find a suitor for him seperately and trade the 2nd they get from him
2024 1st + Cowan + 2024 2nd for TK@50% thats the max value Konecny would fetch imo at 50% retained
He is only valuable for the next 2 years, after that he gets a gross UFA deal and teams get saddled with a bad LT contract.
Limeyjim
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The Flyers are in their rebuild phase, and if they were looking throughout the NHL for an upcoming power forward who is growing as a player in leadership and skill they would spend several draft picks with prospects to get him.
That player is already in the room with 2 more years on his low budget contract. Travis Konecny is also a huge fan favourite, he loves playing for the Flyers, and he's a young father.
Danny Briere would be insane to move TK.
Walker is a quality defensemen who will most likely be moved. Probably for a 2nd rounder and a prospect.
That player is already in the room with 2 more years on his low budget contract. Travis Konecny is also a huge fan favourite, he loves playing for the Flyers, and he's a young father.
Danny Briere would be insane to move TK.
Walker is a quality defensemen who will most likely be moved. Probably for a 2nd rounder and a prospect.
hamzarocks
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Doubt it, few contenders would give a prospect better than Cowan in a trade
Oilers have no one for example
Avs have no one
Stars have Stankoven but he wont be dealt
Jets have maybe McGroaty but again doubt hes dealt * they just got Monahan for 2C
Panthers have no one better
Boston has no one better
Tampa has no one better
Knights have no one better
Canucks have Lekk and Willander who are maybe a bit better but they just made their big move already
Devils have Nemec and Hughes but they wont be dealt, besides that Casey who is similar so they might be able to put a package, but they dont need forwards really.
Canes have KHL D-man Nikushkin - but I think again hes part of their future core and not going to be moved
I dont see any current year contenders with higher end prospect than Cowan who would be looking to make a big move like this
If im missing any teams or prospects let me know.
They may get better pieces from middling/poor teams.
Jackets, Preds, Blues, Caps, etc could better packages, if they include their top prospects + 1st + for TK@50% but why would they be making this type of move?
Buffalo could put the best package alltogether, and they 100% should make the trade for TK. He would help a shit ton. But their GM is lazy and happy sitting on his prospects hoping they become what hes projected
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hamzarocks
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DIsagree there
He is older, and not dominating the AHL. Maybe the flyers value hik more which at that pt sure they can create a bidding war
But i dont see a 21 year old Samoskevich who has poor AHL and donuts so far at NHL better than 18 year old Cowan whose 1st in ppg in the OHL. Robertson as a 20 and 21 had better AHL stats than Samoskevich in his 21 year season, but he hasnt transitioned to NHL as we hoped for (better this year) with his value being a ~2nd most likely
Though this ignores the pt... do the panthers even want/need TK? Dont you guys have decisions to make on your big names
Reinhart, Forsling, Montour, Bennett etc. Unless panthers are happy to move on from 1 of those guys shortly TK doesnt make much sense to their team
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If Boston and DeBrusk are not close on contract talks I wonder if a Jake for Travis swap would be good for both teams.
hamzarocks
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Why would the flyers deal TK for a 60% version of him?
You deal a guy like Konency for futures. A high end prospect, a 1st and a bit more.
Debrusk has regressed this year and wants a new deal.
Boston would have to do
Lysell + 1st + 2nd for TK likely retained
Think that offer gets beat though
FWIW, Cowen barely made Pronman’s list of 169 U-23 players.
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