Claimed off Waivers: [SEA] Kraken claim F Eeli Tolvanen off waivers from the Predators

[mattihp]

Less icetime again.. And a goal. Is he struggling with conditioning or is his line being left out there too long some games?

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Less icetime again.. And a goal. Is he struggling with conditioning or is his line being left out there too long some games?

Probably they just lean toward a slightly hotter line or certain matchups each night? When you have a balanced set of lines you can do that.

 

[Curufinwe]

Chuck Fletcher grabbed Kieffer Bellows instead.

 

[Irie]

Even if he just turned out to be a PP specialist, the fact that we didn't try him on his natural side when we have one of the worst PPs and GF in the league is so incredibly frustrating as a fan. Not a lot of Preds fans are surprised he's doing well in Seattle.

The funny thing is that it seems like he is starting to draw the reputation on these boards as mostly just a potential goal scorer with a big shot.

The goals are really just a bonus. He's playing a bottom six role in Seattle, and his defensive positioning and effort have been outstanding. 75% of his points so far have been at ES.

He really does the little things well.

Still shocked Nashville put him on waivers.

 

[kanucks25]

Still pissed that the Flames didn't grab him. He would be a perfect fit, in an area of need, and they had the cap space.
Seriously, they are playing Lucic with Huby and Kadri. Just dumb.

What'd you think about Tolvanen tonight?

"What number is he?"

 

[Steeler23]

Chuck Fletcher grabbed Kieffer Bellows instead.

Suck a bad GM, he should've known that Tolvanen would be waived 2 months later!

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

The funny thing is that it seems like he is starting to draw the reputation on these boards as mostly just a potential goal scorer with a big shot.

The goals are really just a bonus. He's playing a bottom six role in Seattle, and his defensive positioning and effort have been outstanding. 75% of his points so far have been at ES.

He really does the little things well.

Still shocked Nashville put him on waivers.

Good to hear those things weren’t just our imagination in Nashville. Lots of us fans saw the same things about the completeness of his game. But the way the organization kept dismissing him, it was sometimes tempting to wonder if we were fooling ourselves.

 

[SoundAndFury]

20 points in 28 games with Seattle and congrats to Eeli for reaching a new personal best in points today. Thought it deserves some kind of mention.

 

[featherhawk]

20 points in 28 games with Seattle and congrats to Eeli for reaching a new personal best in points today. Thought it deserves some kind of mention.

ya, no idea what the preds were thinking. kid oozes potential and has a lethal shot

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

ya, no idea what the preds were thinking. kid oozes potential and has a lethal shot

I just think it has always been part of Poile's MO to give his coach almost carte blanche in fixing the roster. And our current coach sucks, alas.

But I am optimistic that Trotz is going to fix that. Poile has been saying in his pressers how he includes the coach in major decisions, doesn't know coaching, and that down the stretch Trotz is going to be at every game breathing down Hynes' neck. This is a mistake that I am optimistic about the organization fixing moving forward.

Well, historically, if you really look back, Trotz also had some old school "conservative" tendencies as a coach. So I'm not like giddy or OVER-optimistic about the fixes. But at least... there's a chance?

 

[featherhawk]

I just think it has always been part of Poile's MO to give his coach almost carte blanche in fixing the roster. And our current coach sucks, alas.

But I am optimistic that Trotz is going to fix that. Poile has been saying in his pressers how he includes the coach in major decisions, doesn't know coaching, and that down the stretch Trotz is going to be at every game breathing down Hynes' neck. This is a mistake that I am optimistic about the organization fixing moving forward.

Well, historically, if you really look back, Trotz also had some old school "conservative" tendencies as a coach. So I'm not like giddy or OVER-optimistic about the fixes. But at least... there's a chance?

Poile has served the preds well, that said it is clearly a time for a new direction there and Barry is a good candidate for the job, I was not suprised at all when it happened and had conversations with a few buddies about why Trotz did not accept coaching offers and I indicated that he was a front office gig instead.

how they let ET walk is beyond me though...

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Poile has served the preds well, that said it is clearly a time for a new direction there and Barry is a good candidate for the job, I was not suprised at all when it happened and had conversations with a few buddies about why Trotz did not accept coaching offers and I indicated that he was a front office gig instead.

how they let ET walk is beyond me though...

I do believe that Poile thought he was doing "due diligence" on exploring any trade market for ET before the demotion, and he very legitimately believed ET would not be claimed by anybody. He is basically never wrong about these things, because he does have the connections and does do that foot work.

Until he WAS wrong.

But the fact that all the sucky/non-playoff teams DID pass on Tolvanen suggests to me he really did gather his intelligence pretty much as he usually does. There were like 10 teams ahead of Seattle in the waiver claim queue who SHOULD have taken Tolvanen, if they had any clue who he was. Just, Poile never banked on somebody (Francis) actually deceiving him... because in the Old Boys Network, that's not what you do? I don't know... but he was totally convinced Tolvanen would clear. And he almost did.

Independent of which, he was absolutely deceived also by his dolt of a head coach to even try trading/demoting Tolvanen in the first place. It's pretty rare that essentially ALL THE FANS of an NHL team see things so consistently better (as it turns out) than the team's head coach does. Oh sure, we all THINK we do all the time. And the results of that are all over the map. Except with Hynes...

 

[milehigh11]

still cant believe the Avs with all their injuries to Fwds this season didnt put a claim in on him at worst you release him but he is better than most we have out there in the bottom 6 most nights. SMH plus he is signed cheaply for next year that we will need.

 

[LaMasquerade]

30 games as a Kraken with 11+10. That is 30 goals pace over a season.. Not bad for a 23 year old guy you got basically free..

 

[Osprey]

Poile should lose his job over this!

 

[GirardSpinorama]

still cant believe the Avs with all their injuries to Fwds this season didnt put a claim in on him at worst you release him but he is better than most we have out there in the bottom 6 most nights. SMH plus he is signed cheaply for next year that we will need.

Should have traded for him for sure. Not sure if we had waiver priority early in the year

 

[mattihp]

Does anyone yet understand why Nashville didn't trade him? For sure there would have been interested for him among the teams that were not as high in the waiver list.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Does anyone yet understand why Nashville didn't trade him? For sure there would have been interested for him among the teams that were not as high in the waiver list.

the fact that even when free he passed through everyone to seattle makes me think there was no market for him.

 

[mattihp]

the fact that even when free he passed through everyone to seattle makes me think there was no market for him.

Was Seattle really last on the list? That is impressive. I wonder if the fact that they rather recently gave him a good contract and then he was on waivers made teams think there was something really, really wrong with him.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

the fact that even when free he passed through everyone to seattle makes me think there was no market for him.

Seattle was a middling team at the time, lots of contending teams would have taken a flyer on him as cheap depth scoring. I think the Jets would've made a claim, but they were further down the list (we claimed Kuhlman the next day if I recall).

 

[Artorius Horus T]

bout 60 point pace for the Kraken.
11 goals, 21 points through 30 games

 

[uncleben]

Seattle was a middling team at the time, lots of contending teams would have taken a flyer on him as cheap depth scoring. I think the Jets would've made a claim, but they were further down the list (we claimed Kuhlman the next day if I recall).

Seattle was 9th by Pts% at the time Tolvanen went on waivers
That means ANA, CHI, SJS, CBJ, ARI, PHI, OTT, STL, BUF, VAN, FLA, MTL, WSH, CGY, MIN, LAK, NYR, EDM, COL, NYI, DET, and PIT all passed on Tolvanen before Seattle, in that order.


WPG was tied 4th in the League and Kuhlman was in fact claimed the next day

 

[BonMorrison]

I'm pretty sure this is the moment when Poile realized he was washed and needs to retire. Tolvanen would fit right in with the current youth, smh.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Good for him to be doing well.

I don't watch a ton of SEA games but the ones I have watched, I can't really say he's been noticeable or taking over any games i've seen.

he's obviously contributing, and probably there's some luck invovled.

wondering how no one else possibly claimed him or traded for him seems like hyperbole and overreaction to me.

 

[Bond]

Can’t believe the Flames didn’t grab him when Lucic was playing in the top six