Bure9*
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Sammy said:Yep, that what it is. All the negative PR is because everyone is jealous of ol Robbie.
You a fanboy perhaps?
Actually, I believe it is because he's American.
Sammy said:Yep, that what it is. All the negative PR is because everyone is jealous of ol Robbie.
You a fanboy perhaps?
Robbie mentioned sticks in his article, you say it was a lie. sure he had sticks, do you know what their stick budget was with the new owners? cut in third maybe? When Quincey and Bain got traded to missy who supplied their equiptment? not missy! I suggest before you call someone a liar, you should at least know your facts!! I think he was mentioning just a few situations here. As he said, he thought it was the right thing to do at the time. Looks like all you bashers should have been agents instead of "armchair coaches"cdnhky1 said:This entire story is laughable. This story has Scott Norton's fingerprints all over it once again. The reason Schremp asked for a trade from Mississauga was Norton. He was afraid he was going to lose Schremp to Newport Sports so he convinced Robbie that he needed to get out of Mississauga for his own good.
As for Schremp not having his sticks, that's a lie. Schremp was using his Synergies throughout camp and into the regular season. Both he and O'Sullivan have it written in their contracts that the team provides them with one piece sticks throughout the season. O'Sullivan continued to to use one piece sticks for the remainder of the season, as would Schremp if he had remained with the team.
As for his school in Mississauga screwing up, again that is a lie. Schremp had dropped out of school in February of last year. Therefore, his school in Mississauga had no reason to forward anything to his school at home because he wasn't in school.
You can bet that Robbie would have left Norton by now if not for the fact that Robbie's uncle happens to work for Norton and his agency. If Robbie leaves, his uncle is out of a job.
Dr.Sens(e) said:Fair enough - my bad - it was his older brother. But that is hardly a difference maker.
Obviously the jeoulousy thing is a joke. Wouldn't I be more jeolous of players like Ovechkin, Malkin, Staal and Horton - basically all the blue chip prospects everyone thinks so highly of?
Hey, you're his buddy and I admire the fact you stick up for him. But it hardly makes you objective. The fact you can't follow the logic of the thread and simply think I'm jeolous...well, it reminds me of what it is like to deal with teenagers.
rahan said:Ok, explain this to me. Someone that has met Schremp, talked to him and played against him is not objective, but you sitting on your computer chair.. you are. Who are you trying to fool? I'd trust someone who knows him (but isn't one of his close friends) over someone who doesn't know squat about jack(or Robbie, in that case).
Thats frankly stupid. This gives all your previous commentary some context now.Rabid Ranger said:That's my guess.
Sammy said:I guess its because he's American his stock has dropped from the expected #2 or #3 overall to around the expected #10 or 11.
Abolute BS.Stich said:There is no doubt that him being American has at least something to do with this. If he was Canadian, nobody would have made a big deal about any of this petty nonsense.
Oh, thats because he's Russian. Us Canadians are just really biased against Americans.Goldberg said:Why has no one ever questioned or ripped the Voroshnin kid for doing basically the same thing this year as Schremp did? From what I understand, Voroshnin told Mississauga that he was not coming back from Russia after Christmas unless he was traded..he was tired of being in Mississauga. He demanded a trade, forced the team's hand like Schremp, and got his wish.
Sammy said:Abolute BS.
Thats like saying if Theo Fleury was an American he wouldnt get all the bad PR he has received.
I guess it's the bias from these boards that has caused Schremp to drop in his rankings this year.Bure9 said:I drew my conclusions by comparing Schremp's situation to Spezza's. I think it's pretty obviously that there is a bias on this board that favors Canadian players. Russian players get the same sh*t, as well.
Sammy said:I guess it's the bias from these boards that has caused Schremp to drop in his rankings this year.
Sammy said:Oh, thats because he's Russian. Us Canadians are just really biased against Americans.
Use some frickin common sense there bud. How highly rated & touted is
Voroshnin?
Rabid Ranger said:His ranking has dropped a bit but he's still widely recognized as a top ten draft possibility by many sources. Everyone isn't Kyle Woodlief you know.
Dr.Sens(e) said:He's still recognized as a talented prospect and certainly could go in the top 10, but in general, his ranking has dropped in scouting circles ever since a slight rise after the prospects game.
While Red Line slammed Schremp early in the year, and was subsequently slammed on these boards after doing so for being so critical of him, it's interesting to see most publications now agree with Red Line to a certain extent, and have dropped Schremp to the fringe of the top 10. McKeens has Schremp at #13, THN has him at #10. And while CSB has him at #3 amongst North American skaters, he would still probably be behind Ovechkin, Malkin, Tukonen, Olesz, Schwartz and Montoya and possibly a few others if they ever consilidated their rankings - which puts him probably somewhere around #10 (admittedly, that's just a guess based on what THN and McKeens have done)
The point about not slamming Spezza as badly is a fair point, however the trade request by Spezza was the only blemish on his record. And there are other differences. The fact is Spezza was MUCH more talented and productive at the same age, having played in the WJC and having also averaged more than 2 points per game in the OHL. There have only been a handful of draft eligible players who have EVER put up numbers like that in their draft year. Schremp put up solid numbers, but was still just a bit better than a point a game, and finished 4th on his team in scoring.
While perhaps we're being a little too critical of Schremp for some silly teenager like behavior, some of his supporters should also take a step back and try to be objective about this as well. We don't "hate" Schremp. There are just more questions about him than some other prospects of equal skill. And most of us are just saying we felt some of his comments in the article pretty questionable. That doesn't change the fact he is immensely talented, it just raises some questions about things other than his talent. And it's certainly not about being an American - at least not from me.
My point was that because Voroshin is a nobody, nobody cares what he does or doesnt do, hence not alot of commentary about his bad acts.Rabid Ranger said:Why does that matter? Just because you're a lower tier prospect it's okay to pull the same stunts? Seems like a double standard to me. .
Okay, first of all im not a teen i played with him 2 years ago, im 22. Im telling you honestly what i think of him. Nobody pays me, i wish, but thats rediculous. I may be only 22 but im mature enough to know the difference between criticizim and Bashing. If i stick up for him its because i want to not cause im being payed or some b.s. but if you dont want to hear the opinion of some who knows him ill shut my mouth.Dr.Sens(e) said:Hey, I'm just basing it on what I read - from scouts and other observers. And I do indeed take their word over a teenage buddy of Schremp's - especially one who thinks the only possible reason I'd criticize Schremp is because I'm "jeolous".
As I've already said more that once, I don't know whether he'll bust or not. I've read many negative reports on Schremp up until now, but never really anything that was more than rumour, and nothing that I ever really put much weight behind (although it did create a nature curiousity about all the negativity). All I'm saying is that article doesn't reflect well on his character. If you disagree and think his explanations reflect well on his him, that's your call. There are many scouts who disagree on Schremp and his character as well.
As I said, it wasn't so much the age as the fact you assume I must be jeolous of Schremp because I was critical of some of his statements in that article. This is just a ridiculous contention. Does that mean all the scouts who stated similar things are jeolous too? Give me a break.pucks1 said:Okay, first of all im not a teen i played with him 2 years ago, im 22. Im telling you honestly what i think of him. Nobody pays me, i wish, but thats rediculous. I may be only 22 but im mature enough to know the difference between criticizim and Bashing. If i stick up for him its because i want to not cause im being payed or some b.s. but if you dont want to hear the opinion of some who knows him ill shut my mouth.