The worst thing afterwards was all the HFboard members mocking the Sedins for not hitting back lol.
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You’re right I photoshopped that. I guess I can try to find you a video if you really think that isn’t clear enough lol
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Game was over.
You hit back and send a message.
Felt like Vancouver had zero chance of winning game 7 after that.
Hate game management. Imo they should get rid of refs and have robotic AI cameras call penalties. It will eliminate non calls, remove the human error and bias and game management crap while also fair for both sides. Hockey refs just either can't keep up with this fast paced game or have game management and bias crap
Always been that way but for me, if its a penalty call it. Eventually players will learn and stop. I think with the tougher fighting rules alot more nonsense is in the game because players aren't scared anymore.
They won't get a penalty and no one comes and cleans their clock.
Call the penalty and you know what, if a team gets 9pp in a night, the other coach is going to let his players know to stop taking penalties and in the end the game is cleaner.
Else take away the instigator and allow the players to police themselves. As someone who played at a decently high level of junior (not major) in the 90's I can tell you this. Knowing someone on the other team would beat the crap out of you if you did something stupid does affect you. Particularly when you're a skilled player who's not really a fighter.
And Tkachuk did it multiples times until the refs got fed up and called him. (Ekblad did it multiple times and nothing.) At that point penalties were 3-3. Then Tkachuk punched a guy who a linesman had fully restrained right in the jaw. Right in front of said linesman and with a ref watching. Maybe you should worry more that Matty Clutch can't reign it in while chasing a lead than all these perceived injustices and inequities.
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Lol “yes I forgot”. You just recalled the entire sequence of events but just pushed it a little further in your mind so as to amplify your complaint.
Personally, I found it odd that Daniel just stood there and let a guy jab him in the face repeatedly. He could have defended himself, skated away, anything. Instead he willingly ate a few in front of the ref trying to draw a call.
Should it have been called? Yes.
Unbelievable. Don't forget Rome's suspension, and then Boychuk breaking Mayson Raymond's back and nothing....
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He did. I know. And he deserved a penalty. Which he got. Maybe even a misconduct. Which he also got. But when the other team does the same thing…..
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The point isnt that i think it’s photoshopped. It’s that you can take a single frame and tell whatever story you want with it. It’s cutting out all possible context and surrounding events.
I still like talking about the game. It is hard to watch which is why I had the MLB game on with this craptastic game on in the background.
No actually I forgot because it was 12 years ago, and the point was the same - the Canucks should have been on the PP and weren't. That is what I recalled, they didn't get a pp.
"trying to draw a call'
A ref watching someone punch you in the head isn't 'trying to draw a call'
Its a penalty.
Taking punches to the head is not a penalty, nor is asking a ref when he's going to call it
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Not sure how you can see what Tkacuk does (which I love by the way) and then say other teams/players do the same thing. A huge part of why he’s such an effective player is because he takes the initiative to stir things up and that includes post whistle scrums.
Vancouver had no chance once Raymond and Hamhuis got injured, Rome got suspended and Edler, Ehrhoff, Kesler and Sedins were nursing injuries. They just were not the same team and remember we also had Malhotra who never suit up for playoffs due to eye injury. That Canucks team was top of the league, best team that I had seen with no weakness. Number 1 in PP, PK, GF and GA plus selke and art Ross caliber players on the team along with a Vezina caliber goalie. Boston was just healthier and had refs in their back pocket due to Jacobs being the Boston owner
When both teams do the same thing all night but one guy does it enough times and blatantly enough the last time.....
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just want to make sure I’m following.
The game is “hard to watch” so you have a baseball game taking some of your focus.
But you somehow remain completely attune to all the refereeing errors, incompetence and “fixing” so that you can put all your focus on that to talk about after the game ends.
Agreed. Boston was healthier in the end, we were decimated. I was at game 5 and 7 of the finals. 5 was amazing, 7 hurt. You could see they had nothing left in the tank but were trying their best.
Hamhuis loss hurt the most, along with Kesler who was such a warrior. I'm glad Canucks fans have accepted him back. Dude gave everything, including his health, to the Canucks organzation. He can barely walk today because of how hard he played for us.
A great run, a great team, and hopefully one day soon we'll see the Canucks have that type of team again.
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If only the referees could have aided the Canucks a little better so they could have won one of their four 4+ goal losses.
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Yeah, stirring it up is fine. I don’t really put much weight into it personally. The argument here is that I truly can not recall a specific post-whistle scrum resulting in 4 for one team and 0 for the other (if anyone here can show me some precedent I’m all ears). When that happens with 4 minutes left in a Stanley Cup game? That’s frustrating.
When you combine it with the surrounding things that were let go? Even worse
Then send him to the box for 2 minutes and even give him 10. That’s been the standard that I’ve always seen. If you have a different experience then it is what it is but I’d be surprised if that’s the case
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When your defense is decimated by injury and you suspend a top 4 dman and their most physical for the series for a clean hit ya it can affect outcomes.
It wasn't the reason the Canucks lost and no one said it was, the POINT was awful calls were made / not made when they should have been, as the whole discussion was about Refereeing, try to keep up!
Anyways you won the cup enjoy it. You won't be seeing one with that team for another 20 years bro. Rebuild time
CharasLazyWrister
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I don’t understand. Did you not see what I saw? The panthers were stirring it up after the whistle as virtually every losing team does in the playoffs to “set the tone” for the next game. More often than not, that results in a disadvantage, large or small, for the team taking the initiative to stir things up.
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