Prospect Info: San Jose Sharks top prospect
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What makes Brodzinski's offensive upside so intriguing? I'm curious, since the only place I can even find detailed info on him is Hockeysfuture.
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Being the best defenseman as a 21 year old on a bad AHL team is something.
He jumps a lot into the play and has good puck skills and a good shot. I saw one game of his college games last year and was left with the impression that he was a PP specialist who quite literally had no clue what do do in his own zone and ran around like a headless chicken. It was probably just a bad game, and I'm no scout, but it really put me off Brodzinski's game.
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He has really good pucks skills, skating, shot, hands, offensive instincts, good vision, low panic threshold...he's pretty much everything you want in an offensive d-man.
His issues are in the other end of the ice and his size isn't ideal, but whether or not he can fix those defensive issues will determine if he can make it at the next level. He made some pretty good strides defensively this past season and will hopefully continue to improve that part of his game over the next couple of years at MN.
Edit: I know Brodzinski is a favorite of Sharks HF writer Craig Fischer so maybe he'll chime in with more on him.
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Bowie22
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I think I read somewhere that his coach was trying to keep him on a leash, or get him to focus more on his defensive game. He sounds like a good prospect to me, and I hope he can continue to improve his play away from the puck.
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It wouldn't surprise me if you read that on the prospects board as Craig and I both brought it up during MN's season but yes, Lucia and more specifically assoc. head coach Guentzel are certainly trying to get him to focus more on the defensive side of the game.
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Wish we could have gotten a closer look at his offensive game during recent dev. camp. Will he be eligible/healthy for the one near preseason?
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It's probably unlikely he'll attend the rookie camp since he'll already be back in school for his Sophomore year.
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This is an almost depressing list, but I am pretty high on a few of them such as, Goldobin, O'Regan (read he's a good playmaker), Bergman (he's a swede), and Abeltshauser (big dman who can skate).
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Abeltshauser is my pick for current most likely to make the team and stay.
His puckmoving, positioning and skating are exactly what you want on the blueline. His size is nice too, although he rarely uses it and can be knocked off the puck easier than you would think(At least on the moose).
His fake winding and passing it off will remind you of Demers unfortunately.
Great teammate and was loved by the Mooseheads and will give 100%+ to be as good as he can be.
I was surprised to see he tied Tenneson in points on the AHL team this season, who is 3 years his senior. He adjusted to the AHL well on a very very bad Worchester team. He was also the only defenseman on the team who was not a minus player at +/-0. Tenneson for instance, was minus 25. I am assuming Tenneson regularly got tougher minutes. He is also a left side defenseman, which is where our gaping hole is.
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I will never understand why this debate happens every time we have one of these polls. Best prospect is not who is closest to the NHL. Its who is most valuable to the organization, it's the player that you would keep if you could only keep 1 of your prospects.
Choosing Konrad is ridiculous. Yes he may be in the NHL next year but does anyone think he is going to be more than a #4? Who cares if he gets in 20 games? Hamilton was in the lineup last year and he should be no where near the top of the list.
I'm even ok with the Brodzinski choice because he shows so much offensive potential and in his first year of college really impressed.
The Sharks top prospect is clearly Goldobin. He has an absurdly high level of skill and could end up being a top line player.
Only other logical choices are Mueller (could be a #2 D-man), Tierney (keeps getting better and could be a top 6 forward), and I'd even accept Bergman as he could be a top 2 or 3 d-man.
Don't get me wrong I like KA and I think he'll be a servicable NHLer but rating prospects is all about the value they can bring to the team not if they'll ever play, and I'd a take a potential top 3-6 forward with star ability over a definite #4 or #5 dman any day!
Choosing Konrad is ridiculous. Yes he may be in the NHL next year but does anyone think he is going to be more than a #4? Who cares if he gets in 20 games? Hamilton was in the lineup last year and he should be no where near the top of the list.
I'm even ok with the Brodzinski choice because he shows so much offensive potential and in his first year of college really impressed.
The Sharks top prospect is clearly Goldobin. He has an absurdly high level of skill and could end up being a top line player.
Only other logical choices are Mueller (could be a #2 D-man), Tierney (keeps getting better and could be a top 6 forward), and I'd even accept Bergman as he could be a top 2 or 3 d-man.
Don't get me wrong I like KA and I think he'll be a servicable NHLer but rating prospects is all about the value they can bring to the team not if they'll ever play, and I'd a take a potential top 3-6 forward with star ability over a definite #4 or #5 dman any day!
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You multiply potential by the percentage of reaching it and that's how you get your top prospect.
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when you consider Hertl and Nieto came in last year and far exceeded expectations, it's really not that bad. Include them and the prospect pool is above average.
I had a dream SJ drafted Eichel lol. I hope it was a pick they traded for
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Our Prospect pool always sucks and yet...
Pavelski 06
Vlasic 06
Couture 09
Demers 09
Bruan 10
Wingels 11
Irwin 12
Hertl 13
Neito 13
Mirco(?) 14
And that doesn't include any we've traded such as Coyle or Bonino.
Pavelski 06
Vlasic 06
Couture 09
Demers 09
Bruan 10
Wingels 11
Irwin 12
Hertl 13
Neito 13
Mirco(?) 14
And that doesn't include any we've traded such as Coyle or Bonino.
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Man...look at all the chum the Sharks churn out. No wonder they can't ice a competitive team.
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the million$ question, Neito>Coyle?
at the time of the trade Coyle had sky high value, but Neito's game might have a better all around translation to the NHL.
Drafting is one place where you can't really fault DW,(outside of Setoguchi over Kopitar)
That's only part of the argument. All orgs graduate prospects to the NHL. The complete argument is how many and how good compared to other orgs. The best argument might be skill/player graduated to the NHL. It should not be an argument based purely on quantity. The ultimate measurement should tie drafting/developing to winning a cup. What commonalities do winning orgs display relative to their peers?
There is no question that the Sharks are good for quantity, but it doesn't tie to winning. Montreal had a window where they topped the league for quantity and they didn't win within the window and didn't have a very good overall record to boot. NJ was right there for quantity in the same window and they did win as did Colorado. Detroit absolutely failed the quantity test yet they were the winningest team in the window.
