Fjordy
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I do not know if it works like that, then of course he will not to waive.
Sabres Expansion Draft Protection Discussion (Skinner waives NMC for Draft)
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No i believe not - in the same way a player would waive a NMC to discuss a trade - he does not lose the NMC forever.
sabregoat
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As of now, one of Tage, Asplund, or Bjork will be exposed. Seattle will not accept a 7th not to pick the one exposed. They should approach Jeff about waiving for the ED only with the condition that Buffalo will send a 7th to Seattle not to pick him. There was no was Seattle would pick him anyways but this gives assurances to Jeff that he is not moving. A 7th is a small price to pay to keep those forwards.
BananaSquad
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If they end up getting picks and prospects for Reinhart, you don’t have to worry about anything. Eichel and Reinhart clear up 2 spots, I expect the Eichel trade will come with a piece we have to protect but you never know.
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I don't want picks and prospects for Reinhart either. So the solution is Reinhart and Risto for a strong player, a pick and top prospect. And yet doing this gets me what I'm saying I don't want which is a pick and a prospect for one of them lol. GMKA truly has his hands full.
joshjull
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If they got Skinner to waive his NMC for the expansion draft then just leave him exposed. I doubt Seattle takes him. But if they do we we would have unload a problem contract freeing up 9mil in cap space.
tsujimoto74
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I don't get why people are so worried about protecting Borgen. I like the guy, but he's 24, and he's played 4 NHL games. He's not exactly a hot commodity.
I hope the Sabres trade Miller and a late pick to the Kraken with the Kraken then agreeing to take Eakin in the draft. This is not likely though.
The good news is that the Sabres, like all teams, can only lose one player in the expansion draft.
Although I would prefer not to lose any of Thompson, Asplund, Bjork or Borgen, I don’t think we should fret too much on this. Ideally the Sabres would go out and acquire players who are better than these 4, prior to the expansion draft. Then rather than the Sabres deciding which one of these players to expose, they expose them all and leave the choice to Seattle.
The good news is that the Sabres, like all teams, can only lose one player in the expansion draft.
Although I would prefer not to lose any of Thompson, Asplund, Bjork or Borgen, I don’t think we should fret too much on this. Ideally the Sabres would go out and acquire players who are better than these 4, prior to the expansion draft. Then rather than the Sabres deciding which one of these players to expose, they expose them all and leave the choice to Seattle.
Typical Sabres fan. Really a nothing piece, maybe a 4th d man at the high point in his career and more likely a 5,6,7 guy.
To be this seems the only way. If it's just procedural and Sabres give him their word he's not being traded, his only worry is Seattle taking him. And that's not happening. But like I said, I have never seen a clear answer on this and Buffalo media only writes what is spoon fed to them.
Zman5778
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I think some people see Brayden McNabb's success and think Borgen is on the same general path.
I don't necessarily agree, but understand the position.
Frankly, I'm expecting whoever Seattle takes to become a legit NHLer and nice piece for them. Because Buffalo.
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I don't have any worries about Borgen becoming a target for the ED, mainly because I don't think Botterill liked Borgen and he's a dime a dozen player that Seattle can find on any team. I'm curious on the influence Botterill will have with Francis, and which players that he may have brought in here, that could be at risk.
Zman5778
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Doesn't that scream Miller then? Botterill paid a pretty penny to bring him here.
might be more of a indication of how badly we are run than a summation of what borgen brings...
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joshjull
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The reason Borgen has only played in 14 games (not 4) the last two years was the incompetence/stupidity of Botts/Krueger and a broken arm.
Borgen, as well as Bryson, should have been in the mix as defensive call ups as early as Krueger’s first season (19-20). Instead we got treated to the glut of dmen Botts waited forever to move out. Which created a logjam keeping Bryson/Borgen in Rochester all year. That dithering by Botts also played a role in Pilut deciding to jump ship to the KHL.
Fast forward to this season and the stupidity of Krueger favoring Irwin/Davison as the go to depth dmen over Bryson/Borgen. Krueger ‘s obsession with playing the perceived “safe vets” over youth was blocking them from the lineup. It took a string of injuries to finally force Krueger to play them.
Specifically to wanting to keep Borgen…… He’s solid defensively, good skater, makes a good first pass, brings an element of toughness we need and can PK effectively. The world will not end if we lose him in the ED but it seems like a wasted opportunity to have a depth dman that brings things we need and for peanuts.
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tsujimoto74
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I'm not saying I dislike him as a player. I think he'll be a solid lunchpail, bottom pairing guy for us going forward. What I am saying is there's absolutely no reason to believe he's on Seattle's radar. He's not a high-end talent with a lot of room for growth. He hasn't played many games, and he hasn't done anything particularly special in the ones he has. And you pointed out yourself that Botterill doesn't appear to care much for him. The idea that this is a player we need to go out of our way to protect is pretty silly.
brian_griffin
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I expect Francis will take players with potential and low-dollar contracts to flip to another team in return for a cap-crunch veteran and high picks in this or future drafts (as part of a protection deal from another team). He’s smart enough to not focus on just this season.
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BananaSquad
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He’s only played 4 games and I still want to keep him over Risto. Get Risto out of here.
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How many protection spots does Buffalo have open if they receive 1 to 2 forwards and/or a Dman in a trade that need protection ?
Zero, unless the players they receive are better than the kids we already need to protect.
Old Navy Goat
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Technically not true as there is an open goalie slot, but zero skater slots
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