Sabres Expansion Draft Discussion -- Expansion Draft TODAY!!! (Use this for all expansion chatter)

[Djp]

Fogarty has a proven ability to get a team out of an 18 game losing streak. He’s a nice asset to have for this team, may not be as valuable to other teams.

he already has a song…..

 

[MayDay]

Just keep holding on to Risto. He'll get us a bag of pucks one of these years.

Seriously.

If they had traded him like 3 years ago, like anyone with any sense told them to, they would have gotten a good return.

Now though . . . they've held him and held him and held him out of some misguided belief that (at first) he was an integral piece of the core, and (later) that he has some great trade value that they'll get someday if they just keep holding out for the right return.

I'm going to laugh when they finally do trade him for a return that's a tiny fraction of what they could have gotten for him if they'd traded him when they should have.

 

[stokes84]

You forgot:
- Average (at best) ability

I think he’s a good player with the potential to be a 2nd pairing stay at home defenseman, who would allow a player like Dahlin to thrive. But, this team can’t evaluate talent for ****, so we are left to these types of analyses based on what he’s been allowed to do for a team that would rather play Ristolainen 24 mins a game.

 

[Dirty Dog]

For everyone complaining about this. Please state what your opinion was in Ullmark vs Carrier. I would love to see the overlap in outrage

 

[joshjull]

I think he’s a good player with the potential to be a 2nd pairing stay at home defenseman, who would allow a player like Dahlin to thrive. But, this team can’t evaluate talent for ****, so we are left to these types of analyses based on what he’s been allowed to do for a team that would rather play Ristolainen 24 mins a game.

I’m not sure Seattle takes Borgen. Lots of good dmen available.





There is some cross over on the lists

 

[EichHart]

I’m not sure Seattle takes Borgen. Lots of good dmen available.





There is some cross over on the lists

Every one of those d man are better than Borgen. I think they go forward.

 

[joshjull]

Every one of those d man are better than Borgen. I think they go forward.

They could take Miller just to flip him for picks.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I’d bet this is pure speculation by Seravalli with nothing to back it up. So, Colorado protected Grubauer and is working on a deal, but with the same circumstances, Buffalo isn’t?

 

[hizzoner]

What about Pilut? These boards were praising him to the skies-at least as much as Borgen- and ready to Lynch the Sabres brass--is he not available?

 

[valet]

I personally would have protected McCabe over Risto but what can you do… I hope seattle doesn’t take him, he really seemed to turn a corner this year

 

[Revelate]

I think it's more likely than not that Ristolainen is traded shortly after the freeze. This isn't as simple as them choosing Ristolainen over Borgen.

 

[zbubble]

I'm guessing our 4th round pick will be enough to protect Borgen. They'll have a surplus of players that will need to pass waivers anyway. The rest of our exposed players have 0 or negative value.

I’ve heard Francis is asking for a first round pick from any team that wants to keep a player from being selected. I don’t know if it’s true.

 

[zbubble]

I personally would have protected McCabe over Risto but what can you do… I hope seattle doesn’t take him, he really seemed to turn a corner this year

McCabe’s a UFA. I don’t think there’s any real benefit to Seattle selecting him as he can still sign somewhere else.

 

[EichHart]

I personally would have protected McCabe over Risto but what can you do… I hope seattle doesn’t take him, he really seemed to turn a corner this year

Totally forgot about him, Isn't he a FA though?

 

[joshjull]

What about Pilut? These boards were praising him to the skies-at least as much as Borgen- and ready to Lynch the Sabres brass--is he not available?

I’m pretty sure he is available in the expansion draft. But has the complication of a KHL contract. I think with one more year left on it.

 

[BloFan4Life]

Does anyone even know if Girgs is healthy?

Doesn't Seattle need to take like 20 players that have to play (they can't take so many LTIR guys)?

 

[joshjull]

McCabe’s a UFA. I don’t think there’s any real benefit to Seattle selecting him as he can still sign somewhere else.

They’re allowed to sign him now and he would be the player we lose in the expansion draft.

I don’t think they would though due to his injury.

 

[TheMistyStranger]

They could take Miller just to flip him for picks.

fine with me.

 

[joshjull]

fine with me.

They may do that with a few players.

 

[TheMistyStranger]

They may do that with a few players.

I'd be shocked if they didn't.

 

[BananaSquad]

I think it's more likely than not that Ristolainen is traded shortly after the freeze. This isn't as simple as them choosing Ristolainen over Borgen.

I hope you’re right

 

[yahhockey]

Kraken 2021 NHL Expansion Draft rules same as Golden Knights followed

The Kraken will select one player from each team excluding the Golden Knights for a total of 30 (at least 14 forwards, nine defensemen and three goalies)

The Kraken also have an exclusive window from July 18-21 to interview and potentially sign pending free agents who were left unprotected in the expansion draft. If they sign a player in that window it counts as their pick from that players' former team.

 

[SackTastic]

I’m pretty sure he is available in the expansion draft. But has the complication of a KHL contract. I think with one more year left on it.

Pilut is exempt from the expansion draft. Only seasons played while under an active SPC count for the First and Second Year Professional rule. His KHL seasons don't count for this since is not under contract. (KHL seasons can really never count because there is no transfer agreement.)

 

[pigpen65]

What about Pilut? These boards were praising him to the skies-at least as much as Borgen- and ready to Lynch the Sabres brass--is he not available?

Yeah I don't get it either. Before Pilut there was the Russian guy who's name I can't remember. And before him it was the second rounder who was traded to Anaheim who's name I cant remember. I guess it's just Buffalo media liking to prop up borderline NHL D prospects to the fans for some reason?

Edit: remembered - Brendan Guhle

 

[Djp]

They may do that with a few players.

Miller at 50% for 1 yr under $2M can get a playoff 2nd or be dealt for prospects
Borgen is a longer term option.

maybe buffalo has a small side deal like MTL 5th+ unsigned secondary prospect